How many of you guys follow builds?

PBpsy · December 2015

The game doesn't have "builds". It has roles that require a certain number of "tasks" to be fulfilled using a very limited selection of skills that actually can fulfill those tasks.Usually there is only one correct answer and the alternative are not just less efficient but downright can't fulfill that task.That selection is further limited by only being able to use at most 2x5+2 skill.

Since 1.7 the gear meta was purposefully set by ZOS and the only variety has more to do with not actually having that gear that yet than with personal choice. Here the variety is minimal. only 2 correct jewelry sets,and a few sets that basically do the same damn thing.

I found it funny last week when somebody asked me in game if I got my mag build from the net. Nope but the last time I checked the most popular mag NB build thread on tamriel foundry differed by one skill from what i had come up. Why ? Because each of those skill fulfills a task that is necessary for me to fulfill my role and they are the only skills that can actually do it efficiently.

There is of course the fun "build" crowd. But that is how you get stationary hard cast spamming crystal blast sorcs in your pledge groups.

failkiwib16_ESO · December 2015

Well I have levelled up almost everything with my templar, so I can pick and choose. I only lack to unlock 2 Allience War skills and some passives. Different builds are made for different purposes in this game, notice if you read about a certain damage build - is it intended for pve, pvp, group play, trials, pledges, endgame?

Here goes the usual list of focus upon builds, for the various purposes:

grinding = sustain
solo pve = sustain
group pve = damage (healing included, best for healers focus their champion points on damage) - mitigation
group pve trials = damage - evasion/mitigation - healing (this one requires healers to spend cp in Blessed, unlike other group activity where it is best for healers to focus their builds upon damage, rather than healing alone).
solo pvp = high damage if you stealth, sustain + survival if you intend to do many 1v1 fights and drag things out a bit.
group pvp = sustain if you run with randoms or big zergs, as you dont need to have high damage to survive. Damage if you run with a specific group, where people support eachother in fights and know eachother, to cover weaknesses and strenghts.
*pvp duels = talk to your enemy or look at how they play, then adjust to beat that person.

I usually play with my v16 templar, and I change my skills, attributes and cp for whatever I intend to do. I mainly heal or dd in group dungeons and pledges, however there was a time when I helped out one of my guilds as a healer in trials. I spend like 200k-300k a week on respecs before and after trials.

I don't read about builds online, because I am furtunate to have a big network of friends and guildies, so I ask around if I need advice. Back in the early days when ESO came out, I was desperately trying to google everything, and there was not enough information on the internet. The game has evolved since then and so has the community... there is much more information to gain now, and since we had our softcaps removed, builds have become much more complex. I like that ^^

rez0055 · December 2015

My main is now a mixture of some builds I found on the internet. These builds helped me a lot, I finally got the impression that I use the class right. My next 'two projects', as I call them,' are magica and stamina dragonknights. I'm following Deltia's Gaming builds, mainly. Because yeah it was kind of his goal to achieve the best builds in ESO. I advice you to check him out. Unfortunately he's on a break, atm.

Volkodav · December 2015

What's nice is to use a char as an experiment,if you suddenly want to create a custom build to use with other alts.Find which skills work best for your class and use them.Dont use or slot any of the skills that feel useless to you.Then,if you find your attributes dont fit your skills,buy a scroll and redistribute them accordingly.Worked for me.Now I have an NB that is all stamina.100%. Kicks lotsa butt.

Robo_Hobo · December 2015

The only thing I've looked at in regards to 'builds' is what's a reasonable way of splitting up the stamina/health/magicka attribute points, although even then that was just to get a rough idea. Everything else has been from my own personal experimentation and what I like to use. What I use could be the most common build of all or it could be on the top of the "do not use" list, I wouldn't know.

vamp_emily · December 2015

I'm still learning about builds and trying new skills.

I like to:
Use Training Traits on my weapons to get them leveled faster.
Start PvP early to begin working on the Alliance Wars Skill Line.
Examine Death Caps to see how I am dying and I also read the advice it gives.

The more I dig deeper into builds, the more I am finding this game interesting. I still have so much to learn but being a PvPer I'm having fun doing it.

IdesofMarch2 · December 2015

vamp_emily wrote: »

I'm still learning about builds and trying new skills.

I like to:
Use Training Traits on my weapons to get them leveled faster.
Start PvP early to begin working on the Alliance Wars Skill Line.
Examine Death Caps to see how I am dying and I also read the advice it gives.

The more I dig deeper into builds, the more I am finding this game interesting. I still have so much to learn but being a PvPer I'm having fun doing it.

Yeah I want to say I'm a pvp'r but had some bad experiences at low level so I told myself I wouldn't go back until level 45 or Vet level. But I'm thinking I may just go into a non vet campaign and feel it out and work on the Alliance Skill line as well.

Defilted · December 2015

I started with a build I liked and then once I played the game and understood it though experience I tweaked the build to fit my play style and what content I was running.

willymchilybily · December 2015

on my first characters, (levelled simultaneously) I followed a deltia's build until i got to 30 or 40 ish

Now I like to look at builds for inspiration, or just to see what other people are running and be aware of it in PvP. Especially things that start off being less common but begin to pick up. or things that take my fancy i decide to try

stam dps going 1h+shield effectively
an odd mag sorc buiild using shields but also adding in shuffle and some other skills/morphs
or even simple things like using stampeed over crit rush for some builds, because the snare make it much harder to avoid that first WB

Elloa · December 2015

I'm making my own build. I enjoy to be creative and to have the freedom to experiment.

Most people will tell you that they create their builds and are 100% original because it sounds noble. The only thing you need to know about this game is you can play how you want to play, but then you won't be playing to win. Without looking at and building on others work, you will most likely end up with a shoddy build with little use. One person just does have enough time to theory craft/test everything themselves. ESO is different as there are no paid min/maxing sites like noxxic. All the builds come from the community and are an incremental improvement process. We as a community work together to find what works best, and your time would best be spent helping out the effort. There's no need to shun other peoples builds, learn from others, and eventually you'll be experienced enough to make your own improvements.

it is only important to be optimised and to min -max you character if your goal is to compete others. If you don't want to compete other, and you are doing your job just fine, it doesn't matter how you do it. It doesn't matter if you could have done it better. What matter is that you get things done.
There is way to much emphasis on min-maxing and optimising. Its extremly boring and give a wrong idea to poeple that they have to play a certain way, or to follow certain build if they want to be good at the game. NO. You can be good at the game with non optimised build and character. If you enjoy that just go for it and don't be shy! Be proud and embrace it!

Alec508 · December 2015

I use a v16 "build" on my sorc who's LV 29.. Of course some skills I don't have so I substitute them for others but I destroy mfs in pvp . I got c frags, velicious curse, the undaunted webs skill, encase, and boundless storm, my second bar is resto , with rapid menuever , annaulment , surge, and forgot the rest. All magicka , all light armor with 2 heavy and my primary weapon is dw for dps and have full seducer and Magnus and oh yeah energy overload is my ult (duh)

With this build I either destroy people in 1v1 or at least have usually a very close or fair fight.

In pve, I did the main story quest which scales to your level and I literally 2-3 shot everything and finished a chapter in 10 minutes or less. Not good for aoe but amazing for single targets.. The two bosses I killed in less then a minute .

Its all about waiting for c-frags to proc, and using velicous curse again as soon as it explodes. Spam the web skill to proc c frags, and to keep distance use encase which roots them. When it gets too close to comfort or you need to kill the guy quick because maybe someone else is coming , use your ultimate and just light attack energy overload, and if you are really good you can try proccing frags while in overload and send a light overload attack with a frag right behind it. Sorc is so much fun to me. Everyone has their own playstyle. So until you play every class you wont know which one you like, also you don't have to be vet levels to enjoy pvp. Quite the opposite really. At LV 10 you can have lots of fun in non vet campaigns. Level doesn't matter to an extent. Some people have more skills but that doesn't mean jack. I kill level 47s and 49s all day long with no hesitation.
And oh yeah boundless storm is good for when you are trying to find a NB :-)

Thelon · December 2015

I like making builds and sharing them with the wider community. Probably my favourite part of the process is responding to questions I get in-game or on forum PMs by total strangers I never would have met otherwise.

PBpsy wrote: »

The game doesn't have "builds".

Lol

Nestor · December 2015

IdesofMarch2 wrote: »

So from level 1 through 50 it's best to kinda just level everything up and get a plan together for when Vet level hits? I know I'm not going to use every skill, there are some that I probably won't really have an interest in.
I guess I'm preparing mostly for PVP, so I don't get housed quickly and I can survive for a little while and help out.

This is the best strategy during leveling. For one reason, the mobs are not as difficult so you can get away with a low leveled weapon skill.

True, your not going to use everything, none of my 8 characters has any skills in Restoration Staff, some of my characters only know a couple of weapons skills, a couple know most weapon skills. I would say that you want a up close weapon skill and a ranged weapon skill for sure, but a Destro Staff can be both. But, it's not hard to get each weapon skill up into the 40's, if not 50, during the 1 to 50 leveling. The Training Trait really helps with this.

eliisra · December 2015

Thelon wrote: »

I like making builds and sharing them with the wider community. Probably my favourite part of the process is responding to questions I get in-game or on forum PMs by total strangers I never would have met otherwise.

PBpsy wrote: »

The game doesn't have "builds".

Lol

But honestly, you gotta agree that most builds today are somewhat identical, with little room for anything outside the box.

Check list:
Race with max stamina or magicka bonus
64 points into magicka or stamina
100 points into Thaumaturge, Mighty or Elemental Expert
Pick Undaunted set
Pick 5 piece bonus
Agility or Willpower jewellery
DW on execute bar
Maelstrom Arena staff or 2-Hander on main bar
Done

Making builds used to be a little bit more interesting.

Alec508 · December 2015

Nestor wrote: »

IdesofMarch2 wrote: »

So from level 1 through 50 it's best to kinda just level everything up and get a plan together for when Vet level hits? I know I'm not going to use every skill, there are some that I probably won't really have an interest in.
I guess I'm preparing mostly for PVP, so I don't get housed quickly and I can survive for a little while and help out.

This is the best strategy during leveling. For one reason, the mobs are not as difficult so you can get away with a low leveled weapon skill.

True, your not going to use everything, none of my 8 characters has any skills in Restoration Staff, some of my characters only know a couple of weapons skills, a couple know most weapon skills. I would say that you want a up close weapon skill and a ranged weapon skill for sure, but a Destro Staff can be both. But, it's not hard to get each weapon skill up into the 40's, if not 50, during the 1 to 50 leveling. The Training Trait really helps with this.

If you are starting out then yes this is a good idea. If you know what kind of character you are going for and what skills you want then this is not the case. I wanted a NB sniper at one point (I know how unique and original) so since LV 3 I used a bow with the training trait. By the time I was LV 30 I had snipe, and any other skills I wanted because that's all id use. On my first character I had like 20 in every skill line, but by vr 1 I had a bunch of mediocre skill lines with no real valuable skills. Also don't know why people want to rush to vet rank , especially now with the huge unbalance in vetern campaigns with CP. Even bwb is filled with people who have a bunch but you have a lot more of a chance to survive as a level 10 in black water blade then a vetern rank 1 in azuras. Its much funner in non vet anyways. Can't wait for non cp campaigns

IdesofMarch2 · December 2015

Alec508 wrote: »

I use a v16 "build" on my sorc who's LV 29.. Of course some skills I don't have so I substitute them for others but I destroy mfs in pvp . I got c frags, velicious curse, the undaunted webs skill, encase, and boundless storm, my second bar is resto , with rapid menuever , annaulment , surge, and forgot the rest. All magicka , all light armor with 2 heavy and my primary weapon is dw for dps and have full seducer and Magnus and oh yeah energy overload is my ult (duh)

With this build I either destroy people in 1v1 or at least have usually a very close or fair fight.

In pve, I did the main story quest which scales to your level and I literally 2-3 shot everything and finished a chapter in 10 minutes or less. Not good for aoe but amazing for single targets.. The two bosses I killed in less then a minute .

Its all about waiting for c-frags to proc, and using velicous curse again as soon as it explodes. Spam the web skill to proc c frags, and to keep distance use encase which roots them. When it gets too close to comfort or you need to kill the guy quick because maybe someone else is coming , use your ultimate and just light attack energy overload, and if you are really good you can try proccing frags while in overload and send a light overload attack with a frag right behind it. Sorc is so much fun to me. Everyone has their own playstyle. So until you play every class you wont know which one you like, also you don't have to be vet levels to enjoy pvp. Quite the opposite really. At LV 10 you can have lots of fun in non vet campaigns. Level doesn't matter to an extent. Some people have more skills but that doesn't mean jack. I kill level 47s and 49s all day long with no hesitation.
And oh yeah boundless storm is good for when you are trying to find a NB :-)

I tried those Undaunted webs skills and it seemed kind of worthless. It works for you?

DHale · December 2015

I think following builds is good but you have to look at a lot of ppls builds rather than just the popular ones. I play a sorc and go all infused and pretty high crit I pack over 40 k magic with undaunted and no bound aegis or inner light when I hit over load and activate inner light and aegis it's just incredibly high damage output. I got those ideas from enemy players not streamers. Most ppl put all points into thaumaturge and little into elemental even though many of the sorc skills are elemental. Before the nerf I had a 100 in both and plan to again, it is really is a game changer. I also put poison rather than disease on weapons as it scales of thaumaturge and give me 90 more damage than disease. Hey a free ninety more damage it adds up. It's about small incremental improvements not just because someone told you to run all divines or only use arch Mage or you have to run a monster helm. Do your own math and homework or at least verify the work of others.

Tandor · December 2015

I never follow or even look at builds. I don't PvP, group (other than informally playing alongside others in e.g. public dungeons) or play competitively and much prefer to develop multiple characters the way I want to. I can understand others who play differently following builds, but then they 're in trouble as soon as a skill is changed because all they're really doing is following a FOTM template and that is never permanent.

Alec508 · December 2015

IdesofMarch2 wrote: »

Alec508 wrote: »

I use a v16 "build" on my sorc who's LV 29.. Of course some skills I don't have so I substitute them for others but I destroy mfs in pvp . I got c frags, velicious curse, the undaunted webs skill, encase, and boundless storm, my second bar is resto , with rapid menuever , annaulment , surge, and forgot the rest. All magicka , all light armor with 2 heavy and my primary weapon is dw for dps and have full seducer and Magnus and oh yeah energy overload is my ult (duh)

With this build I either destroy people in 1v1 or at least have usually a very close or fair fight.

In pve, I did the main story quest which scales to your level and I literally 2-3 shot everything and finished a chapter in 10 minutes or less. Not good for aoe but amazing for single targets.. The two bosses I killed in less then a minute .

Its all about waiting for c-frags to proc, and using velicous curse again as soon as it explodes. Spam the web skill to proc c frags, and to keep distance use encase which roots them. When it gets too close to comfort or you need to kill the guy quick because maybe someone else is coming , use your ultimate and just light attack energy overload, and if you are really good you can try proccing frags while in overload and send a light overload attack with a frag right behind it. Sorc is so much fun to me. Everyone has their own playstyle. So until you play every class you wont know which one you like, also you don't have to be vet levels to enjoy pvp. Quite the opposite really. At LV 10 you can have lots of fun in non vet campaigns. Level doesn't matter to an extent. Some people have more skills but that doesn't mean jack. I kill level 47s and 49s all day long with no hesitation.
And oh yeah boundless storm is good for when you are trying to find a NB :-)

I tried those Undaunted webs skills and it seemed kind of worthless. It works for you?

With the set up im using yes because it costs barely any magicka and I use it to spam just so I can proc c frags. That's all its there to do really. The morph also does decent DoT. But like I said its more to proc the frags. I can legit proc frags after shooting 1 web usually. So by the time someone has hard casted frags I can shoot at least 2-3 and not be a sitting duck and its way harder to see coming. After they roll for the first they got 2 more coming.. So they either roll again and drain a bunch of stamina , (and still get hit and knocked down by the third) or they get knocked down and use stamina to break the stun and then I use encase, which by this time they are either out of stam or use the last of what they got and I just keep using velicous curse and send more frags. My friend was joking and asked "so your one of the frag spammers?" Which I could see how someone would assume that, but what I do takes practice and is like an art. Spammers are the ones who stay stationary and hard cast frags until their magicka is out in 5 seconds. I on the other hand am moving around like a crazy person RARELY RARELY hard casting frags if I mis time them. And never run out of magicka

Shadesofkin · December 2015

I tend to play what suits me. Sometimes this cherry picks from builds, other times it's all me.

My Breton DK Healer was my own inspiration, it wasn't til later that I heard others were doing it too.

robkrush · December 2015

I read about builds, looking for interesting ideas. Also, I started by following a build but over time I changed things around and tried new things. What i have now is entirely my own, nithing publushed like it, and it works well for my group.

Shadesofkin · December 2015

robkrush wrote: »

I read about builds, looking for interesting ideas. Also, I started by following a build but over time I changed things around and tried new things. What i have now is entirely my own, nithing publushed like it, and it works well for my group.

And I think that's the healthy way to "follow builds". Anyone who is just using whatever point for point is going to have a bad time. I had a player telling me they didn't understand why their stats were lower than mine when they were wearing identical gear to what I'd linked.

I explained that a) I don't say everything I run and b) I change stuff for what I'm doing.

IdesofMarch2 · December 2015

Alec508 wrote: »

IdesofMarch2 wrote: »

Alec508 wrote: »

I use a v16 "build" on my sorc who's LV 29.. Of course some skills I don't have so I substitute them for others but I destroy mfs in pvp . I got c frags, velicious curse, the undaunted webs skill, encase, and boundless storm, my second bar is resto , with rapid menuever , annaulment , surge, and forgot the rest. All magicka , all light armor with 2 heavy and my primary weapon is dw for dps and have full seducer and Magnus and oh yeah energy overload is my ult (duh)

With this build I either destroy people in 1v1 or at least have usually a very close or fair fight.

In pve, I did the main story quest which scales to your level and I literally 2-3 shot everything and finished a chapter in 10 minutes or less. Not good for aoe but amazing for single targets.. The two bosses I killed in less then a minute .

Its all about waiting for c-frags to proc, and using velicous curse again as soon as it explodes. Spam the web skill to proc c frags, and to keep distance use encase which roots them. When it gets too close to comfort or you need to kill the guy quick because maybe someone else is coming , use your ultimate and just light attack energy overload, and if you are really good you can try proccing frags while in overload and send a light overload attack with a frag right behind it. Sorc is so much fun to me. Everyone has their own playstyle. So until you play every class you wont know which one you like, also you don't have to be vet levels to enjoy pvp. Quite the opposite really. At LV 10 you can have lots of fun in non vet campaigns. Level doesn't matter to an extent. Some people have more skills but that doesn't mean jack. I kill level 47s and 49s all day long with no hesitation.
And oh yeah boundless storm is good for when you are trying to find a NB :-)

I tried those Undaunted webs skills and it seemed kind of worthless. It works for you?

IdesofMarch2 wrote: »

Alec508 wrote: »

I use a v16 "build" on my sorc who's LV 29.. Of course some skills I don't have so I substitute them for others but I destroy mfs in pvp . I got c frags, velicious curse, the undaunted webs skill, encase, and boundless storm, my second bar is resto , with rapid menuever , annaulment , surge, and forgot the rest. All magicka , all light armor with 2 heavy and my primary weapon is dw for dps and have full seducer and Magnus and oh yeah energy overload is my ult (duh)

With this build I either destroy people in 1v1 or at least have usually a very close or fair fight.

In pve, I did the main story quest which scales to your level and I literally 2-3 shot everything and finished a chapter in 10 minutes or less. Not good for aoe but amazing for single targets.. The two bosses I killed in less then a minute .

Its all about waiting for c-frags to proc, and using velicous curse again as soon as it explodes. Spam the web skill to proc c frags, and to keep distance use encase which roots them. When it gets too close to comfort or you need to kill the guy quick because maybe someone else is coming , use your ultimate and just light attack energy overload, and if you are really good you can try proccing frags while in overload and send a light overload attack with a frag right behind it. Sorc is so much fun to me. Everyone has their own playstyle. So until you play every class you wont know which one you like, also you don't have to be vet levels to enjoy pvp. Quite the opposite really. At LV 10 you can have lots of fun in non vet campaigns. Level doesn't matter to an extent. Some people have more skills but that doesn't mean jack. I kill level 47s and 49s all day long with no hesitation.
And oh yeah boundless storm is good for when you are trying to find a NB :-)

I tried those Undaunted webs skills and it seemed kind of worthless. It works for you?

With the set up im using yes because it costs barely any magicka and I use it to spam just so I can proc c frags. That's all its there to do really. The morph also does decent DoT. But like I said its more to proc the frags. I can legit proc frags after shooting 1 web usually. So by the time someone has hard casted frags I can shoot at least 2-3 and not be a sitting duck and its way harder to see coming. After they roll for the first they got 2 more coming.. So they either roll again and drain a bunch of stamina , (and still get hit and knocked down by the third) or they get knocked down and use stamina to break the stun and then I use encase, which by this time they are either out of stam or use the last of what they got and I just keep using velicous curse and send more frags. My friend was joking and asked "so your one of the frag spammers?" Which I could see how someone would assume that, but what I do takes practice and is like an art. Spammers are the ones who stay stationary and hard cast frags until their magicka is out in 5 seconds. I on the other hand am moving around like a crazy person RARELY RARELY hard casting frags if I mis time them. And never run out of magicka

Oh ok, I use shattering prison for kind of the same thing but probably uses more magicka than the webs.

Alec508 · December 2015

IdesofMarch2 wrote: »

Alec508 wrote: »

IdesofMarch2 wrote: »

Alec508 wrote: »

I use a v16 "build" on my sorc who's LV 29.. Of course some skills I don't have so I substitute them for others but I destroy mfs in pvp . I got c frags, velicious curse, the undaunted webs skill, encase, and boundless storm, my second bar is resto , with rapid menuever , annaulment , surge, and forgot the rest. All magicka , all light armor with 2 heavy and my primary weapon is dw for dps and have full seducer and Magnus and oh yeah energy overload is my ult (duh)

With this build I either destroy people in 1v1 or at least have usually a very close or fair fight.

In pve, I did the main story quest which scales to your level and I literally 2-3 shot everything and finished a chapter in 10 minutes or less. Not good for aoe but amazing for single targets.. The two bosses I killed in less then a minute .

Its all about waiting for c-frags to proc, and using velicous curse again as soon as it explodes. Spam the web skill to proc c frags, and to keep distance use encase which roots them. When it gets too close to comfort or you need to kill the guy quick because maybe someone else is coming , use your ultimate and just light attack energy overload, and if you are really good you can try proccing frags while in overload and send a light overload attack with a frag right behind it. Sorc is so much fun to me. Everyone has their own playstyle. So until you play every class you wont know which one you like, also you don't have to be vet levels to enjoy pvp. Quite the opposite really. At LV 10 you can have lots of fun in non vet campaigns. Level doesn't matter to an extent. Some people have more skills but that doesn't mean jack. I kill level 47s and 49s all day long with no hesitation.
And oh yeah boundless storm is good for when you are trying to find a NB :-)

I tried those Undaunted webs skills and it seemed kind of worthless. It works for you?

IdesofMarch2 wrote: »

Alec508 wrote: »

I use a v16 "build" on my sorc who's LV 29.. Of course some skills I don't have so I substitute them for others but I destroy mfs in pvp . I got c frags, velicious curse, the undaunted webs skill, encase, and boundless storm, my second bar is resto , with rapid menuever , annaulment , surge, and forgot the rest. All magicka , all light armor with 2 heavy and my primary weapon is dw for dps and have full seducer and Magnus and oh yeah energy overload is my ult (duh)

With this build I either destroy people in 1v1 or at least have usually a very close or fair fight.

In pve, I did the main story quest which scales to your level and I literally 2-3 shot everything and finished a chapter in 10 minutes or less. Not good for aoe but amazing for single targets.. The two bosses I killed in less then a minute .

Its all about waiting for c-frags to proc, and using velicous curse again as soon as it explodes. Spam the web skill to proc c frags, and to keep distance use encase which roots them. When it gets too close to comfort or you need to kill the guy quick because maybe someone else is coming , use your ultimate and just light attack energy overload, and if you are really good you can try proccing frags while in overload and send a light overload attack with a frag right behind it. Sorc is so much fun to me. Everyone has their own playstyle. So until you play every class you wont know which one you like, also you don't have to be vet levels to enjoy pvp. Quite the opposite really. At LV 10 you can have lots of fun in non vet campaigns. Level doesn't matter to an extent. Some people have more skills but that doesn't mean jack. I kill level 47s and 49s all day long with no hesitation.
And oh yeah boundless storm is good for when you are trying to find a NB :-)

I tried those Undaunted webs skills and it seemed kind of worthless. It works for you?

With the set up im using yes because it costs barely any magicka and I use it to spam just so I can proc c frags. That's all its there to do really. The morph also does decent DoT. But like I said its more to proc the frags. I can legit proc frags after shooting 1 web usually. So by the time someone has hard casted frags I can shoot at least 2-3 and not be a sitting duck and its way harder to see coming. After they roll for the first they got 2 more coming.. So they either roll again and drain a bunch of stamina , (and still get hit and knocked down by the third) or they get knocked down and use stamina to break the stun and then I use encase, which by this time they are either out of stam or use the last of what they got and I just keep using velicous curse and send more frags. My friend was joking and asked "so your one of the frag spammers?" Which I could see how someone would assume that, but what I do takes practice and is like an art. Spammers are the ones who stay stationary and hard cast frags until their magicka is out in 5 seconds. I on the other hand am moving around like a crazy person RARELY RARELY hard casting frags if I mis time them. And never run out of magicka

Oh ok, I use shattering prison for kind of the same thing but probably uses more magicka than the webs.

But then it might do more damage making you have to use frags less, so It probably evens out . I always say whatever works for you. Its also cool feeling like Peter Parker

Nestor · December 2015

Alec508 wrote: »

If you are starting out then yes this is a good idea. If you know what kind of character you are going for and what skills you want then this is not the case.

Thing with MMO's is, stuff changes. If they change the mechanics or balance to gimp your preferred weapon, or rather buff a weapon you don't use, then your stuck grinding up a weapon skill at VR16. By training up a couple of weapons besides the one you prefer, even if you think you will never use them, then all you have to do is respec to change builds as the game changes. My NB has gone from Magic to Hybrid to Stamina and will soon go back to Magic as the game has changed it's balance. All I have to do is respec.

Now, my Templar, the last character I built, only knows the Destro Staff, has no skills in any other weapon. I had a pretty good idea of what I wanted, and I focused my build on this. I maxed out the Destro Staff by the time she was L25. Sure, she does just fine this way, but I can't make her a Stamplar without grinding up a couple of weapon lines. So, I have limited myself with what I can do with her.

My other characters can take on just about any role, gear or build and I don't have to grind anything. I much prefer having a choice of what to do end game.

IdesofMarch2 · December 2015

Alec508 wrote: »

IdesofMarch2 wrote: »

Alec508 wrote: »

IdesofMarch2 wrote: »

Alec508 wrote: »

I use a v16 "build" on my sorc who's LV 29.. Of course some skills I don't have so I substitute them for others but I destroy mfs in pvp . I got c frags, velicious curse, the undaunted webs skill, encase, and boundless storm, my second bar is resto , with rapid menuever , annaulment , surge, and forgot the rest. All magicka , all light armor with 2 heavy and my primary weapon is dw for dps and have full seducer and Magnus and oh yeah energy overload is my ult (duh)

With this build I either destroy people in 1v1 or at least have usually a very close or fair fight.

In pve, I did the main story quest which scales to your level and I literally 2-3 shot everything and finished a chapter in 10 minutes or less. Not good for aoe but amazing for single targets.. The two bosses I killed in less then a minute .

Its all about waiting for c-frags to proc, and using velicous curse again as soon as it explodes. Spam the web skill to proc c frags, and to keep distance use encase which roots them. When it gets too close to comfort or you need to kill the guy quick because maybe someone else is coming , use your ultimate and just light attack energy overload, and if you are really good you can try proccing frags while in overload and send a light overload attack with a frag right behind it. Sorc is so much fun to me. Everyone has their own playstyle. So until you play every class you wont know which one you like, also you don't have to be vet levels to enjoy pvp. Quite the opposite really. At LV 10 you can have lots of fun in non vet campaigns. Level doesn't matter to an extent. Some people have more skills but that doesn't mean jack. I kill level 47s and 49s all day long with no hesitation.
And oh yeah boundless storm is good for when you are trying to find a NB :-)

I tried those Undaunted webs skills and it seemed kind of worthless. It works for you?

IdesofMarch2 wrote: »

Alec508 wrote: »

I use a v16 "build" on my sorc who's LV 29.. Of course some skills I don't have so I substitute them for others but I destroy mfs in pvp . I got c frags, velicious curse, the undaunted webs skill, encase, and boundless storm, my second bar is resto , with rapid menuever , annaulment , surge, and forgot the rest. All magicka , all light armor with 2 heavy and my primary weapon is dw for dps and have full seducer and Magnus and oh yeah energy overload is my ult (duh)

With this build I either destroy people in 1v1 or at least have usually a very close or fair fight.

In pve, I did the main story quest which scales to your level and I literally 2-3 shot everything and finished a chapter in 10 minutes or less. Not good for aoe but amazing for single targets.. The two bosses I killed in less then a minute .

Its all about waiting for c-frags to proc, and using velicous curse again as soon as it explodes. Spam the web skill to proc c frags, and to keep distance use encase which roots them. When it gets too close to comfort or you need to kill the guy quick because maybe someone else is coming , use your ultimate and just light attack energy overload, and if you are really good you can try proccing frags while in overload and send a light overload attack with a frag right behind it. Sorc is so much fun to me. Everyone has their own playstyle. So until you play every class you wont know which one you like, also you don't have to be vet levels to enjoy pvp. Quite the opposite really. At LV 10 you can have lots of fun in non vet campaigns. Level doesn't matter to an extent. Some people have more skills but that doesn't mean jack. I kill level 47s and 49s all day long with no hesitation.
And oh yeah boundless storm is good for when you are trying to find a NB :-)

I tried those Undaunted webs skills and it seemed kind of worthless. It works for you?

With the set up im using yes because it costs barely any magicka and I use it to spam just so I can proc c frags. That's all its there to do really. The morph also does decent DoT. But like I said its more to proc the frags. I can legit proc frags after shooting 1 web usually. So by the time someone has hard casted frags I can shoot at least 2-3 and not be a sitting duck and its way harder to see coming. After they roll for the first they got 2 more coming.. So they either roll again and drain a bunch of stamina , (and still get hit and knocked down by the third) or they get knocked down and use stamina to break the stun and then I use encase, which by this time they are either out of stam or use the last of what they got and I just keep using velicous curse and send more frags. My friend was joking and asked "so your one of the frag spammers?" Which I could see how someone would assume that, but what I do takes practice and is like an art. Spammers are the ones who stay stationary and hard cast frags until their magicka is out in 5 seconds. I on the other hand am moving around like a crazy person RARELY RARELY hard casting frags if I mis time them. And never run out of magicka

Oh ok, I use shattering prison for kind of the same thing but probably uses more magicka than the webs.

But then it might do more damage making you have to use frags less, so It probably evens out . I always say whatever works for you. Its also cool feeling like Peter Parker

lol no doubt I was thinking the same thing. I use the shattering prison then velocious curse then liquid lightning 1,2,3 but sometimes I miss with the LL and it doesn't hit on a certain spot.

IdesofMarch2 · December 2015

Nestor wrote: »

Alec508 wrote: »

If you are starting out then yes this is a good idea. If you know what kind of character you are going for and what skills you want then this is not the case.

Thing with MMO's is, stuff changes. If they change the mechanics or balance to gimp your preferred weapon, or rather buff a weapon you don't use, then your stuck grinding up a weapon skill at VR16. By training up a couple of weapons besides the one you prefer, even if you think you will never use them, then all you have to do is respec to change builds as the game changes. My NB has gone from Magic to Hybrid to Stamina and will soon go back to Magic as the game has changed it's balance. All I have to do is respec.

Now, my Templar, the last character I built, only knows the Destro Staff, has no skills in any other weapon. I had a pretty good idea of what I wanted, and I focused my build on this. I maxed out the Destro Staff by the time she was L25. Sure, she does just fine this way, but I can't make her a Stamplar without grinding up a couple of weapon lines. So, I have limited myself with what I can do with her.

My other characters can take on just about any role, gear or build and I don't have to grind anything. I much prefer having a choice of what to do end game.

I hear ya. My current Sorc I wanted her to be a healer but able to deal damage as well so I can help out others and heal them. So I'm still trying to work that out, but that's what I am going for, Destro Staff and Resto Staff. I'm just still trying to understand how to use the Resto Staff and the skills that go with it.

Callous2208 · December 2015

It's been said before but it's worth repeating. Going with your own original build is fun and interesting. However, if you wish to maximize the potential of your class, you will follow a build. It is silly to think that the average joe will be able to discover some awesome new setup before a dedicated theory crafter has tried it, tested it, and moved on. An original off the wall build will get you through most pve content. It will not however, garner you any success in vICP, vMA, and the like.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · December 2015

Following builds is a great way to become good at this game, but an awful way to become great at it. In PVE you should probably be more cookie cutter, but in PVP all that really matters is can you make life really annoying for your opponent. My build is specifically built to counter Sorcs and Night Blades as best as possible, because Cyrodiil is about 80% filled with these two classes. Here is what I have built.

The worlds first healer-tank shield stacking, invisible, reflecting Stamplar.

It makes no sense on paper but works fantastic in Cyrodiil.

7/7 Heavy Armor
64 Points into Stamina
5 Piece Willow's Path
2 Piece of whatever it was that gave me a stamina bonus.
All Endurance jewelry
2 Agility Weapons
1 Willpower Weapon, 1 Willpower Shield
Invisibility Potions that increase speed
Purple Food
Stamina Recovery Mundus
All Infused Traits

12K Magic, 30K Health, 31K Stamina
800+ Magic Recovery, 1500+ Health and Stamina Recovery

Here is a standard fight ... Step 1) Turn on defensive stance Step 2) Hit Vigor Step 3) Hit them with a Javelin Step 4) Hit them with Piercing Armor when they are rooted by a Javelin Step 5) Radiant Oppression if they are low enough or repeat steps 1 through 4 until they are. Throw in an eclipse and a few other things and its a good time. When in doubt pop Barrier as my ultimate, or when in a lot of doubt pop an invisibility/speed potion.

Between reflecting, shields and eclipse I can give the Sorc a case of their own medicine. With the invisibility pots and heavy armor I can be very frustrating for any Night Blade I come across. My fights often last over 5 minutes, however I have ended many in short order. It is very rare now where I come across anyone who just face rolls me, which can happen to anyone in Cyrodiil.

TLDR: Be Creative when Building a PVP Character! Just because something looks weird on paper you'd be amazed at how useful you can be when you're the only person in Cyrodiil with your odd build! Break the game! It's a great time!

IdesofMarch2 · December 2015

Callous2208 wrote: »

It's been said before but it's worth repeating. Going with your own original build is fun and interesting. However, if you wish to maximize the potential of your class, you will follow a build. It is silly to think that the average joe will be able to discover some awesome new setup before a dedicated theory crafter has tried it, tested it, and moved on. An original off the wall build will get you through most pve content. It will not however, garner you any success in vICP, vMA, and the like.

That's really what I want to do is develeop a stellar character for PVP and Raiding and such. PVE for me is just levelling up and maxing things out esp since this is the second time I have gone through the AD questline.