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Nerf WB if not, the game will slowly die. :(

  • LBxFinalDeath
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    Those can go too @Catblade

    People wanna take away good burst dmg skills while keeping theirs, its unfair.

    Take them all away.

    Focused aim is only a problem though imo when people animation cancel it so you get hit by four at the same time.
    Edited by LBxFinalDeath on December 16, 2015 4:08AM
  • Alucardo
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    It's overpowered in the sense that it's broken.

    Hah, touché. I meant the skill itself is not OP (especially if it wasn't broken)
  • Catblade
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    WB is killing pvp just as much as Crystal Frags is.

    I say take them both out and don't play favorites.
    Those can go too @Catblade

    People wanna take away good burst dmg skills while keeping theirs, its unfair.

    Take them all away.

    Focused aim is only a problem though imo when people animation cancel it so you get hit by four at the same time.

    Yeah the lag is real when casting focus aim and when receiving. If it helps on the casting end i may press the button 4 to 6 times before it casts sometimes lol
  • FHM.Pauline
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    Just leave the game, you won't be missed.

    "loads of player will leave if wrecking blow is not nerfed" what a pile of bullcrap. Players leave because PvP is in a horrible state performance wise. Not because of one cheesy skill.

    The constant cry for nerfs is what has ruined classes and many skills. It's time to stop the nerf crap and start buffing stuff again.

    No one's crying here dude. :) You're lackadaisical to read the whole thing aye? we're talking about here the population of those who are complaining about the WB. Have respect to those who feel it. If you have the solution for it then just say it :) You don't need to be grinchy you're not a girl :D
  • NBrookus
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    WB? No problem. And I'm a total scrub in PvP. The only time I see WB on a death recap is if I get steamrolled by a bunch of players. Leave it be. If someone if killing you by spamming WB you are really not paying attention.
  • Caff32
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    Can we nerf NB's in PvP first?
  • leepalmer95
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    Wollust wrote: »
    Just leave the game, you won't be missed.

    "loads of player will leave if wrecking blow is not nerfed" what a pile of bullcrap. Players leave because PvP is in a horrible state performance wise. Not because of one cheesy skill.

    The constant cry for nerfs is what has ruined classes and many skills. It's time to stop the nerf crap and start buffing stuff again.

    No one's crying here dude. :) You're lackadaisical to read the whole thing aye? we're talking about here the population of those who are complaining about the WB. Have respect to those who feel it. If you have the solution for it then just say it :) You don't need to be grinchy you're not a girl :D

    There no solution for bad players,

    Just get better.
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  • ralonasan
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    L2 not get hit by a long ass animation that is easily avoided.


    Although, a self empowering ability is questionable. That aspect of the skill would be the only thing I would consider needing adjustment.
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  • Artjuh90
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    ambush spamm is way more annoying and cant be countered. that has to be adressed way more then WB that can be countered if you have 1/3 of a brain
  • catalyst10e
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    I was in cyrodiil last night, both above ground in az star, and in the sewers in SoC, I encountered maybe 5 people really just spamming WB, it's not that big of an issue. when it happens, yeah its annoying, but every class has means to counter it. Theres plenty of other things that need to be looked at before WB.

    I say keep WB, but if it gets to empower itself, and Dark flare empowers itself, Crystal frag should proc itself. and then give a similar buff to steel tornado, and buff the magicka DK cuz they just need an all around overhaul. Stop with the nerf, and lets see some buff!!
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  • Sheezabeast
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    If you were swinging a log around would you expect it to hurt as much as if someone flicked you with a stick? No, duh, the log would hurt more. 2H needs WB because it makes sense for a 2H weapon to hit like a 2 handed weapon should!!

    1) Yes the CC is broke as heck

    2) Stam builds would be gutted without it, namely DK and Sorc.

    3) Yes people abuse it and will do so until Zos fixes it.

    When the new siege changes comes out and you can hit people with reduced stam, you're probably going to see a reduced number of people using it. If Zos tweaks the CC to where people can't fling people around like rag dolls like Nightmare from Soul Caliber BUT keeps the same burst damage then it will be fine.

    Until this Siege change has been implemented and Stam users have to work around it, calm yourselves, listen to the advice about how to avoid it, and let Zos do that they do best ;D *cough* break stuff *cough*

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  • Khaos_Bane
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    Stop nerfing skills due to PvP. PvE players are sick of it.
  • Artjuh90
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    btw if you have that big of a issue with WB spamm i might suggest you build 5 traith deaths wind. will blow them back when you drop below 35 % health and stops there spamm and you can go on counter them ;). there are enough options
  • kalimar44
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    I'm a stamina DK that use duel wield/2h. I mostly dw with my 2 daggers. With my hundings rage/night mother's armor and night mother daggers I do alot more dam than my 2h. My crit is at 70% and my wep dam at 4000,and my stamina reg is at 2000. Plus with my daggers I can aoe too. Wb is nice ,but very boring thing to do over and over. My gear and armor are legendary and I'm v16. I love playing my DK.
  • Rook_Master
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    WB CC is OP considering the nerf to roll-dodge in 1.7.

    Make WB interruptible like it was in1.5.
  • Catblade
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    No one cares about PVE players. Go do a dungeon or something
  • Sheezabeast
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    If you whiners get WB nerfed into uselessness, try running a dungeon with a group not using WB to deal damage to bosses. Fun times huh kiddos.
    Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!
  • Artjuh90
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    Catblade wrote: »
    No one cares about PVE players. Go do a dungeon or something

    PvE is what keeps this game alive lolz.
    p.s. Catblade can you be positive for once would be a welcome change
  • Catblade
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    Catblade wrote: »
    No one cares about PVE players. Go do a dungeon or something

    PvE is what keeps this game alive lolz.
    p.s. Catblade can you be positive for once would be a welcome change

    Nope. Without negative positive cannot exist. All the white light workers and positive thinkers just can't wrap their heads around that one.
  • Artjuh90
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    Catblade wrote: »
    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    Catblade wrote: »
    No one cares about PVE players. Go do a dungeon or something

    PvE is what keeps this game alive lolz.
    p.s. Catblade can you be positive for once would be a welcome change

    Nope. Without negative positive cannot exist. All the white light workers and positive thinkers just can't wrap their heads around that one.

    goes the other way around aswell ;)
  • Catblade
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    Catblade wrote: »
    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    Catblade wrote: »
    No one cares about PVE players. Go do a dungeon or something

    PvE is what keeps this game alive lolz.
    p.s. Catblade can you be positive for once would be a welcome change

    Nope. Without negative positive cannot exist. All the white light workers and positive thinkers just can't wrap their heads around that one.

    goes the other way around aswell ;)

    You worry about you homie you will be happier than trying to control me. Lots of people have tried though. I've taken anger management 9 times but saying whoosaaaa pisses me off
    Edited by Catblade on December 16, 2015 5:45PM
  • Jura23
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    I thought it is OP as well, but now more often then not, I am the one to survive meet with WB spammer. It just takes practice.
    Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU
  • Idinuse
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    Agreed.

    Typical, generic responses:
    • just walk thru it
    • just block it omg
    • keep ur distance
    • just cc dem

    Like as if Cyrodiil is completely 1v1 orientated and totally based on a predictable encounter to simply block/walk through/keep your distance/cc-ing them despite immunity, etc.

    And wrecking is the downfall of everyone not in a 1v1? wb isn't too useful in group play.

    Nb's spamming gap closers + fear
    People spamming steel tornado
    That group of 3-4 people spamming snipe from 50m away.
    About to kill someone? Not today! as he has a templar friend who presses a button and heals the entire team.
    Dealing dmg to that sorcerer? shield and retreat.. good fight.

    This is so ridiculous it's amazing. Well then give Templars a spammable instant 20K dmg skill and you can have your pathetic heals nerf. Oh, except don't nerf the ones healing you and your group, no doubt.

    Edit* and by the way, the reason you all have such a ball instagibbing and one/two shooting Templars is because of the uniquely bad passives Templars have. So give Templars on par dmg mitigation, since healing won't be an option. You'll have so much fun with Templars then, I'm sure.
    Edited by Idinuse on December 16, 2015 5:48PM
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  • Holycannoli
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    ZOS needs to balance out the stamina builds that have no other viable burst DPS other than WB.

    DKs and Sorcs have absolutely nothing in their class abilities that is a stamina morph for DPS.
    I challenge all you QQ'ers (mostly console players) to play a stamina DK or stamina Sorc. Go ahead.

    Take a close look the next time you get rekt by WB. They are either a DK or a Sorc.
    Theres absolutely no reason for a NB/Templar to be using WB when they have BETTER CLASS DPS.

    I play a stamina sorc, and which skill do I use most often? Wrecking Blow, by a longshot. There is literally no viable damage-dealing stamina skill for sorcerers, so it's all about WB - HVY cancelling and throwing in a Brawler, Executioner etc. whenever.

    A stamina sorc is basically a pure 2-handed skills user with a few sorcerer utilities thrown in like critical surge or bound armaments.

    Why did I choose to be a stamina sorcerer? Well there was a time when hybrid builds were viable and my imperial sorcerer worked well. After they executed hybrid builds I decided instead of shelving my favorite character I'd just make him a stamina sorcerer to take advantage of his racials. So don't blame me for spamming WB, it's pretty much all I have.
  • PrinceBoru
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    I am going to start using it thanks for the heads up!
    It ain't easy being green.
  • Caligamy_ESO
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    Life in Cyrodil:

    Snipe
    Snipe
    Snipe
    Snipe
    Snipe

    Crystal Fragments
    Crystal Fragments
    Crystal Fragments
    Crystal Fragments
    Crystal Fragments

    Ambush
    Ambush
    Ambush
    Ambush
    Ambush

    Wrecking Blow
    Wrecking Blow
    Wrecking Blow
    Wrecking Blow
    Wrecking Blow

    and the occasional
    Emperor whatshisface hits you with Stone Cold Trebuchet for 25,564 damage.
    love is love
  • Thalmor-Nordmaster
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    What Alex forgot to close this one! Wow he is slipping in his old age.Quick someone link all of the closed ones to this one for easy reading.

    WB's need buffs. Full 12 or 24 persons needed.
  • Rayste
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    J2JMC wrote: »
    Claims wrecking blow needs to be nerfed because it's Overpowered, is using one hand and shield in the current meta.

    Op ask why many of the hardcore pvp'ers in the game, regardless of class (stam nb, mag sorc, mag dk, etc...) are using one hand and shield. Learn about reverb and bash canceling before calling wrecking blow Overpowered lol.

    This. Also, ambush spam is a bigger problem than WB spam IMHO. We wont even name a certain undaunted set that can be proc using methods not intended by it's design.

    There are a lot of hidden tricks in this game that give huge advantages. Wrecking blow isn't the issue. Now if they wanted to remove empower from WB, I would be all for it.
    The Teach - AD Templar
  • Thelon
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    Catblade wrote: »
    No one cares about PVE players. Go do a dungeon or something

    I carebear about PvE. I am also a scrub, no one cares about me, and I want cookies. Or Greek Yogurt. Anything but potatoes.
  • QuebraRegra
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    been broke... this is news to some? Some would still dispute?

    Been there, done that....

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/213831/nerf-fix-wrecking-blow-fix-cc-immunity/p1
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