Nerf WB if not, the game will slowly die. :(

FHM.Pauline

Seriously, I've heard about this wrecking blow OP thing all over the zone chats, with / without in Cyrodiil, Many players are rallying about quitting the game if ZoS won't be nerfing the said skill.

Upon my investigation about this, Yeah.. It's OP in a way that every player wielding Two Handed weapons are only using that skill and reverse slash, Hey.. You don't want to kill the true essence of PVP right? WB is killing it by using only 2 skills effortlessly.

I'm not a bitter person against it, in fact that's my first weapon choice. And I've changed to One Hand and Shield due to it being OP.

It's sad to see ZoS is not responding in this. Some people are posting "STOP POSTING NERF IN FORUMS"
Lol? Maybe those people only knew about using 2Handed right?

#RespectZoS
#TakeActionPlease

"OR POST SOMETHING ABOUT THIS"

leepalmer95

FHM.Pauline wrote: »

Seriously, I've heard about this wrecking blow OP thing all over the zone chats, with / without in Cyrodiil, Many players are rallying about quitting the game if ZoS won't be nerfing the said skill.

Upon my investigation about this, Yeah.. It's OP in a way that every player wielding Two Handed weapons are only using that skill and reverse slash, Hey.. You don't want to kill the true essence of PVP right? WB is killing it by using only 2 skills effortlessly.

I'm not a bitter person against it, in fact that's my first weapon choice. And I've changed to One Hand and Shield due to it being OP.

It's sad to see ZoS is not responding in this. Some people are posting "STOP POSTING NERF IN FORUMS"
Lol? Maybe those people only knew about using 2Handed right?

#RespectZoS
#TakeActionPlease

"OR POST SOMETHING ABOUT THIS"

Walk through it, cc them, pressure them with your own attack etc... many ways to counter it.

As a stam dk i use 2h and i use far more than wb.

Crit charge, light canceling, heavy canceling, wb, executioner, silver shards, keeping rally + shuffle up, using igneous and vigor when needed, using flight to burst, using werewolf to relieve boredom.

MrDerrikk

I would never use this cheese, but what viable alternatives are there for a spammable for Stam chars? With almost 0 Stam morphs of class abilities, they have to depend on the weapon lines a lot more.

That said, have you looked up the threads detailing how you get away from WB? With that 1-sec cast time there is a lot of things you can do.

DannyLV702

WB won't be what ends this game lol. It's strong, but it's also the only thing stam sorcs and DKs seem to have

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Oh look another nerf thread.

Molag_Crow

Agreed.

Typical, generic responses:

• just walk thru it
• just block it omg
• keep ur distance
• just cc dem

Like as if Cyrodiil is completely 1v1 orientated and totally based on a predictable encounter to simply block/walk through/keep your distance/cc-ing them despite immunity, etc.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

Nerfing a skill every time someone cries its op will kill the game faster then most any other thing.

FHM.Pauline

leepalmer95 wrote: »

FHM.Pauline wrote: »

Seriously, I've heard about this wrecking blow OP thing all over the zone chats, with / without in Cyrodiil, Many players are rallying about quitting the game if ZoS won't be nerfing the said skill.

Upon my investigation about this, Yeah.. It's OP in a way that every player wielding Two Handed weapons are only using that skill and reverse slash, Hey.. You don't want to kill the true essence of PVP right? WB is killing it by using only 2 skills effortlessly.

I'm not a bitter person against it, in fact that's my first weapon choice. And I've changed to One Hand and Shield due to it being OP.

It's sad to see ZoS is not responding in this. Some people are posting "STOP POSTING NERF IN FORUMS"
Lol? Maybe those people only knew about using 2Handed right?

#RespectZoS
#TakeActionPlease

"OR POST SOMETHING ABOUT THIS"

Walk through it, cc them, pressure them with your own attack etc... many ways to counter it.

As a stam dk i use 2h and i use far more than wb.

Crit charge, light canceling, heavy canceling, wb, executioner, silver shards, keeping rally + shuffle up, using igneous and vigor when needed, using flight to burst, using werewolf to relieve boredom.

Actually, You're talking about one of the best class to suit to 2 handed weapon. Ofcourse there's some way to counter it, but 1 sec counter is not that easy man, We're not talking about 1v1 here, we're talking abou the whole sense of the PVP per se

ApeXiTT

LOL.. nerf because you don't know how to counter it? Go practice dueling someone.. so many crappy players in this game.

leepalmer95

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Agreed.

Typical, generic responses:

• just walk thru it
• just block it omg
• keep ur distance
• just cc dem

Like as if Cyrodiil is completely 1v1 orientated and totally based on a predictable encounter to simply block/walk through/keep your distance/cc-ing them despite immunity, etc.

And wrecking is the downfall of everyone not in a 1v1? wb isn't too useful in group play.

Nb's spamming gap closers + fear
People spamming steel tornado
That group of 3-4 people spamming snipe from 50m away.
About to kill someone? Not today! as he has a templar friend who presses a button and heals the entire team.
Dealing dmg to that sorcerer? shield and retreat.. good fight.

FHM.Pauline

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Oh look another nerf thread.

Oh look, might be one of WB Abusers :P

leepalmer95

FHM.Pauline wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

FHM.Pauline wrote: »

Seriously, I've heard about this wrecking blow OP thing all over the zone chats, with / without in Cyrodiil, Many players are rallying about quitting the game if ZoS won't be nerfing the said skill.

Upon my investigation about this, Yeah.. It's OP in a way that every player wielding Two Handed weapons are only using that skill and reverse slash, Hey.. You don't want to kill the true essence of PVP right? WB is killing it by using only 2 skills effortlessly.

I'm not a bitter person against it, in fact that's my first weapon choice. And I've changed to One Hand and Shield due to it being OP.

It's sad to see ZoS is not responding in this. Some people are posting "STOP POSTING NERF IN FORUMS"
Lol? Maybe those people only knew about using 2Handed right?

#RespectZoS
#TakeActionPlease

"OR POST SOMETHING ABOUT THIS"

Walk through it, cc them, pressure them with your own attack etc... many ways to counter it.

As a stam dk i use 2h and i use far more than wb.

Crit charge, light canceling, heavy canceling, wb, executioner, silver shards, keeping rally + shuffle up, using igneous and vigor when needed, using flight to burst, using werewolf to relieve boredom.

Actually, You're talking about one of the best class to suit to 2 handed weapon. Ofcourse there's some way to counter it, but 1 sec counter is not that easy man, We're not talking about 1v1 here, we're talking abou the whole sense of the PVP per se

Stam dk's have no other choice than to equip a 2h.

Catblade

That's not true i use rally also . Seriously though i dropped WB I prefer surprise attack

PBpsy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlsbTcPxZPc
"Saddest song ever" according to google.
I wouldn't know.

Wollust

Just leave the game, you won't be missed.

"loads of player will leave if wrecking blow is not nerfed" what a pile of bullcrap. Players leave because PvP is in a horrible state performance wise. Not because of one cheesy skill.

The constant cry for nerfs is what has ruined classes and many skills. It's time to stop the nerf crap and start buffing stuff again.

J2JMC

Claims wrecking blow needs to be nerfed because it's Overpowered, is using one hand and shield in the current meta.

Op ask why many of the hardcore pvp'ers in the game, regardless of class (stam nb, mag sorc, mag dk, etc...) are using one hand and shield. Learn about reverb and bash canceling before calling wrecking blow Overpowered lol.

Strider_Roshin

I don't use wrecking blow, and I think it's just fine. I agree with Apex. Practice dueling a wrecking blow spammer, it's help you get better at countering it.

Pangnirtung

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nerfing a skill every time someone cries its op will kill the game faster then most any other thing.

This nerfing goes back to early beta. It does no good.

Classes will NEVER be balanced but to each overpowered skill there is always a vulnerability.

Stop the nerfing already. DKs this month. Who is next?

Catblade

Lol telling people to leave the game and they won't be missed is not healthy. You do have to get used to wrecking blow though it's not the only skill like it. Dark flare is almost the same thing but it gets a healing debuff and no one complains about it. What class are you? I can probably suggest a skill that does similar dmg. If it's the knockback that bothers you try unstoppable potions

Another suggestion is to literally take two steps backwards when they start the animation. Try it walk backwards and you move out of their effective range. Then burst them, and walk backwards again as they attempt to recast it

Molag_Crow

leepalmer95 wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Agreed.

Typical, generic responses:

• just walk thru it
• just block it omg
• keep ur distance
• just cc dem

Like as if Cyrodiil is completely 1v1 orientated and totally based on a predictable encounter to simply block/walk through/keep your distance/cc-ing them despite immunity, etc.

And wrecking is the downfall of everyone not in a 1v1? wb isn't too useful in group play.

Nb's spamming gap closers + fear
People spamming steel tornado
That group of 3-4 people spamming snipe from 50m away.
About to kill someone? Not today! as he has a templar friend who presses a button and heals the entire team.
Dealing dmg to that sorcerer? shield and retreat.. good fight.

At least NB's have to use at least 3-4 (unless they're a scrubby ambush-spammer) different abilities in their rotation.

Steel tornado, meh, not as bad though, it doesn't literally throw your up in the air and onto the ground with massive hits.

Templar Healers have so many counters and the heals aren't always quick enough to save someone taking decent DPS, and a simple CC on the Templar while nuking the other target is usually the best way, like what we did/do on WoW in arena, etc.

Sorcs using shield and streak isn't so bad, as annoying as it may be, but I like it, even if I can't kill some of them.

Wrecking Blow spammers? psh... They roll up like;

"Hi guys!"

PainfulFAFA

ZOS needs to balance out the stamina builds that have no other viable burst DPS other than WB.

DKs and Sorcs have absolutely nothing in their class abilities that is a stamina morph for DPS.
I challenge all you QQ'ers (mostly console players) to play a stamina DK or stamina Sorc. Go ahead.

Take a close look the next time you get rekt by WB. They are either a DK or a Sorc.
Theres absolutely no reason for a NB/Templar to be using WB when they have BETTER CLASS DPS.

Molag_Crow

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

ZOS needs to balance out the stamina builds that have no other viable burst DPS other than WB.

DKs and Sorcs have absolutely nothing in their class abilities that is a stamina morph for DPS.
I challenge all you QQ'ers (mostly console players) to play a stamina DK or stamina Sorc. Go ahead.

Take a close look the next time you get rekt by WB. They are either a DK or a Sorc.
Theres absolutely no reason for a NB/Templar to be using WB when they have BETTER CLASS DPS.

I did, Apollo Creed. I stopped playing him because I realized this, don't worry - I know why people resort to WB. I have nothing against WB users, but WB spammers? that's a different story. There's players who actually, effectively use WB in their rotations, and then there's the players who -only- use WB, nothing else.. sometimes they'll use a gap closer with it, but yeah.

Catblade

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

ZOS needs to balance out the stamina builds that have no other viable burst DPS other than WB.

DKs and Sorcs have absolutely nothing in their class abilities that is a stamina morph for DPS.
I challenge all you QQ'ers (mostly console players) to play a stamina DK or stamina Sorc. Go ahead.

Take a close look the next time you get rekt by WB. They are either a DK or a Sorc.
Theres absolutely no reason for a NB/Templar to be using WB when they have BETTER CLASS DPS.

Lol cheap shot on console players but what he says is true. DK and sorc lack other stamina dps burst. Pretty much what they have is WB, steel tornado and flurry.

robkrush

Sausage

Well, Rift had balanced PVP and it died too? Most important thing is to keep the content coming, that prevents dying and keep new and casuals in mind, because eventually they are becoming the backbone of the game.

Catblade

Sausage wrote: »

Well, Rift had balanced PVP and it died too? Most important thing is to keep the content coming, that prevents dying and keep new and casuals in mind, because eventually they are becoming the backbone of the game.

exactly the game will never see 100% balance but as long as new stuff keep coming for long term players and they keep the atmosphere welcoming to new players things should be alright

Sausage

Catblade wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

Well, Rift had balanced PVP and it died too? Most important thing is to keep the content coming, that prevents dying and keep new and casuals in mind, because eventually they are becoming the backbone of the game.

exactly the game will never see 100% balance but as long as new stuff keep coming for long term players and they keep the atmosphere welcoming to new players things should be alright

From my exprience when players start to whine about PVP balanced they are close to quit anyway. New players are playing this game with full spirit like we did at launch. Zen, needs to improve their Enlightment system, players needs to have breaks.

Alucardo

I mean this in the nicest way possible - you need to shut up.

It's not OP, and it doesn't need nerfing. It does need FIXING, however. I was able to wrecking blow a guy through a wall which resulted in his death.
We were in the sewers and he had gone around the corner. I thought the line of sight was broken, but the WB still landed, knocking him on his ass.
Yeah, it's broken, but it's not over powered in any sense.

LBxFinalDeath

WB is killing pvp just as much as Crystal Frags is.

I say take them both out and don't play favorites.

Catblade

Sausage wrote: »

Catblade wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

Well, Rift had balanced PVP and it died too? Most important thing is to keep the content coming, that prevents dying and keep new and casuals in mind, because eventually they are becoming the backbone of the game.

exactly the game will never see 100% balance but as long as new stuff keep coming for long term players and they keep the atmosphere welcoming to new players things should be alright

From my exprience when players start to whine about PVP balanced they are close to quit anyway. New players are playing this game with full spirit like we did at launch. Zen, needs to improve their Enlightment system, players needs to have breaks.

I'm actually fairly new compared to pc player but i agree with your opinion. I started with console launch and we love to jump to the newest, flashiest games. For me I only get hyped for certain content but when i do I leave knowing I'll come back to my MMO world. What gets me is I have to limit my time away because I don't want to fall too far behind the average cp amount for console players in pvp. Every time i come back though i feel refreshed and excited to play through the content. It's nice to take breaks

LBxFinalDeath wrote: »

WB is killing pvp just as much as Crystal Frags is.

I say take them both out and don't play favorites.

What about dark flare, snipe, and everything else doing good burst dmg do you want those gone too? Why not just ask for an equivalent for your class? In fact you probably already have one

MisterBigglesworth

Alucardo wrote: »

Yeah, it's broken, but it's not over powered in any sense.

It's overpowered in the sense that it's broken.