Volkodav wrote: »

Achievement points are just a part of the game.Much as quests are.What do you want them to do exactly? Not being disrespectful here,just wondering what you think they should do.I havent a clue.I dont like them being attached to the unlocking of dyes though.

Neither do I but if you dare to mention that you'll quickly be lynched by the people who have the time to dedicate to the game to actually get them. We "filthy casuals" are pretty much locked out from all the best ones and that seems kind of strange to me over something like a simple cosmetic.

As to "like what?" there are any number of things they could do. I'm asking because I'm curious as to what the community would like to see. One thing I've thought of is a "special store" in the game where you can purchase fun vanity items not available otherwise. I'm not looking for special gear or performance enhancers though gear with unique looks that is comparable, stat-wise, to gear you can already attain would be okay I suppose. But really, I'm far more curious to see what other people might like.

I remember Zenimax said that they would like us to "spend" our AP on cool things eventually, it was from a dev interview a long time ago, around beta I think.

I'd love to see "meta-achievements" like "Earn 15,000 Achievement Points" which reward a very, very cool unique costume, title or some unique character effect.

Right now it's just pointless, I get achievements because they are great but the fact I have tons of AP is meaningless. If @ZOS_RichLambert could chime in on whether some system like this is being worked on that'd be great. .

AngryNord wrote: »

Crowns

LOL Wouldn't THAT be nice? I don't see it happening though.

AngryNord wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

Crowns

LOL Wouldn't THAT be nice? I don't see it happening though.

LoTRO awards Turbine Points (the game store currency) with pretty much every achievement.
I know people that own every expansion, questpack etc in LoTRO without having paid a cent for it - just farmed achievments for TP...

Which is why I don't see ZOS doing it frankly.

Jura23 wrote: »

Achievement points could serve as another type of ingame currency which you can trade for other currencies of your choosing. Each in different exchange rate of course based on their value. Imagine how awesome would that be.

That would indeed be awesome! I like it!

Taself wrote: »

I'd like to see them put towards player housing. The more achievement points the better the upgrades/quality of the house.

That would be pretty neat but I fear that not enough of the player base is going to be wanting player housing for that to be well received across the board. It'd probably be best if, whatever they do with them, it potentially offers something that would be fun for everyone, regardless of play style. Though I can see housing goodies of some sort easily being PART of that.

MornaBaine wrote: »

Jura23 wrote: »

Achievement points could serve as another type of ingame currency which you can trade for other currencies of your choosing. Each in different exchange rate of course based on their value. Imagine how awesome would that be.

That would indeed be awesome! I like it!

I agree with this, this adds more depth to the game and more choices for a player, maybe one Currency should be CPs. So basically before season starts, you will get currency from your Achivement Points, and can choose to do whatever you want with them, turn into APs, TSs, Gold, or CPs. Also I'd imagine that feels great as new season starts and you are ready to do content!

notimetocare wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

Faster CP-gain. Higher your Achievement Points are, easier your seasonal CP-grind is, or when new season starts, your achievements points are calculated and rewarded as CP.

Why if there is an issue with something cosmetic being on achievements would people want rawpower associated with them?

WoW, bad day, bro? We are here to give ideas, not to bash each other, reported btw.

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Tokens for undaunted sets?

Oh I like that one too. On the other hand, it means you get something without having to do the content associated with it. That seems to be unpopular.

Until recently my best wish for Achievement Points would be for more possibilities in Housing.
Everybody can get a House, but the more Achievement Points, the more rooms, decoration possibilities, etc.

And ofc there will be people against such an innocent feature, because instead of all players being "active" in the game, they start spending time in their little dwelling, gathering stuff, befitting the lore of their characters and the location.
No... cannot be... nerf it..... everybody must be active in a min-max outfit..... and if... if Housing comes.... we must all have equal benefits !!!

So I changed my mind.
I want no discrimination between the PVP AP's and the Achievement AP's !

Why would a player, labelled "casual" by many, but in fact dedicated to Lore and Immersion, enjoying living in the game, be discriminated compared to min-max Pledge-Trial PVE'ers, min-max PVP'ers or money grinders???

If AP's and Gold are going to be a kind of token to get nice Armor sets... ok... but then also Achievement AP's.
To get some fancy set, perhaps not even better than he already has, but fun to play with.

And with these AP/Gold tokens, on equal footing, you should not only be able to get Armor Sets, but also features for Housing, etc.

hrothbern wrote: »

Until recently my best wish for Achievement Points would be for more possibilities in Housing.
Everybody can get a House, but the more Achievement Points, the more rooms, decoration possibilities, etc.

And ofc there will be people against such an innocent feature, because instead of all players being "active" in the game, they start spending time in their little dwelling, gathering stuff, befitting the lore of their characters and the location.
No... cannot be... nerf it..... everybody must be active in a min-max outfit..... and if... if Housing comes.... we must all have equal benefits !!!

So I changed my mind.
I want no discrimination between the PVP AP's and the Achievement AP's !

Why would a player, labelled "casual" by many, but in fact dedicated to Lore and Immersion, enjoying living in the game, be discriminated compared to min-max Pledge-Trial PVE'ers, min-max PVP'ers or money grinders???

If AP's and Gold are going to be a kind of token to get nice Armor sets... ok... but then also Achievement AP's.
To get some fancy set, perhaps not even better than he already has, but fun to play with.

And with these AP/Gold tokens, on equal footing, you should not only be able to get Armor Sets, but also features fior Housing, etc.

Excellent points. Well done Sir!

notimetocare wrote: »

hrothbern wrote: »

Until recently my best wish for Achievement Points would be for more possibilities in Housing.
Everybody can get a House, but the more Achievement Points, the more rooms, decoration possibilities, etc.

And ofc there will be people against such an innocent feature, because instead of all players being "active" in the game, they start spending time in their little dwelling, gathering stuff, befitting the lore of their characters and the location.
No... cannot be... nerf it..... everybody must be active in a min-max outfit..... and if... if Housing comes.... we must all have equal benefits !!!

So I changed my mind.
I want no discrimination between the PVP AP's and the Achievement AP's !

Why would a player, labelled "casual" by many, but in fact dedicated to Lore and Immersion, enjoying living in the game, be discriminated compared to min-max Pledge-Trial PVE'ers, min-max PVP'ers or money grinders???

If AP's and Gold are going to be a kind of token to get nice Armor sets... ok... but then also Achievement AP's.
To get some fancy set, perhaps not even better than he already has, but fun to play with.

And with these AP/Gold tokens, on equal footing, you should not only be able to get Armor Sets, but also features fior Housing, etc.

Only issue is how do you reward RPers without creating a system people can cheat?

Min-max'ers will always find ways to "bend" the output of any system.

When I played my first computer game Star Trek on Unix back in 1974, shooting Klingons to outher space from my Enterprise, I found out a cheat that gave me unlimited defence (the Energy shield) and unlimited phaser energy resources to fire. Just because the programmers forgot to disable the possibility to make a negative energy shield.
So what happened?
I made Nr 1 on the University Leaderboard.... The difference with the Nr 2 was pretty awesome.... had some fun with that...
and went back to normal playing the game as intended.

MornaBaine wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

hrothbern wrote: »

Until recently my best wish for Achievement Points would be for more possibilities in Housing.
Everybody can get a House, but the more Achievement Points, the more rooms, decoration possibilities, etc.

And ofc there will be people against such an innocent feature, because instead of all players being "active" in the game, they start spending time in their little dwelling, gathering stuff, befitting the lore of their characters and the location.
No... cannot be... nerf it..... everybody must be active in a min-max outfit..... and if... if Housing comes.... we must all have equal benefits !!!

So I changed my mind.
I want no discrimination between the PVP AP's and the Achievement AP's !

Why would a player, labelled "casual" by many, but in fact dedicated to Lore and Immersion, enjoying living in the game, be discriminated compared to min-max Pledge-Trial PVE'ers, min-max PVP'ers or money grinders???

If AP's and Gold are going to be a kind of token to get nice Armor sets... ok... but then also Achievement AP's.
To get some fancy set, perhaps not even better than he already has, but fun to play with.

And with these AP/Gold tokens, on equal footing, you should not only be able to get Armor Sets, but also features fior Housing, etc.

Only issue is how do you reward RPers without creating a system people can cheat?

We RP nerds are easy to reward and generally with things non-RPers don't want/don't care about.

Like:
Troll free spaces to roleplay where we can take an entire 500 member guild. Private instances.
Cosmetics. Tons and tons of cosmetics. Seriously, you'll never give us too many hairstyles or costumes.
MOAR emotes.
More dances.
More musical instruments.
The ability to TURN OFF the bard in any tavern.
A "portable" bard of your own. One that only plays instrumental versions of the songs. One that actually sings the darn things. (These can ONLY be implemented if other players can turn them OFF for themselves)
Cool "stuff" and clutter with which to decorate player housing.
Useable furniture.
Emote interactions with vanity pets.

So yeah, we're easy to please and can be made happy with things non-RPers aren't interested in so there'd be no point in them "gaming the system" to acquire them.

agree