Newcomers of the "Freekend", issues aside what are your thoughts thus far?

Pistolera_ESO · December 2015

vek892_ESO wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

vek892_ESO wrote: »

@SturgeHammer
Any advice for RP'ers?

@UrQuan
I also made 3 characters, one of each faction so I am trying out my Brenton mage now. Wish I would of done Coldharbour though (no staves/gear from that area) instead of skipping the tutorial.

My most important advice to you: if you haven't already figured this out (I know I didn't figure it out when I first started, but you were part of a beta stress test, so you might have known this already), the quest giver just outside of the house that you wake up in after the tutorial gives you a quest that sends you on a boat to an island. DO THIS QUEST FIRST! Or as early as possible, if you've already started doing other stuff.

That quest sends you to the actual starter zones. The zone that you wake up in is the first full zone of the game, but it's not the zone that is intended to teach you gameplay and really introduce you to the game. The starter zones are intended for brand new characters, they give you some decent XP, some decent gear, some skyshards, some interesting characters and quests, and are just generally the best place to start playing the game.

Never understood why they changed it so you start in the main area instead of the starter areas. There was always an option to "tell the captain to leave early" in all 3 alliances so you could still fast track it if you wanted.

Now it just makes less sense. Boarding a ship to go backwards?

Threw me off for a second as well, originally I thought of not leaving the "main area" as a ship/travel point usually means higher end content or the end of the current zone in my mind until I took the ship over to a starting zone.

I also don't understand why they changed it because many of the npc still have the old dialog from when you started out in those zones, very lazy devs.

mlstevens42_ESO · December 2015

They are speaking of five player run guilds not npc guilds. Npc guilds do not count towards the five max you can join. Each individual character must join any npc guild they wish to join. Player guilds are different. Note that when you join a player guild you are joining with your account. So all of your toons will be part of that guild regardless of faction the toon happens to be in.

Atrek · December 2015

Thanks for clarifying the guilds everyone. As this is the last day of the free weekend and I have been playing it a LOT, is it worth getting just the base game or imperial edition? The only real thing I would want from Imperial Edition is the horse (sorry, but in PvP I get jumped with no horse & am at 3/10th's of the goal for a 10k horse & I don't know if I can justify $8 more for a horse

). Worth it or not really in my case?

Lightninvash · December 2015

vek892_ESO wrote: »

Thanks for clarifying the guilds everyone. As this is the last day of the free weekend and I have been playing it a LOT, is it worth getting just the base game or imperial edition? The only real thing I would want from Imperial Edition is the horse (sorry, but in PvP I get jumped with no horse & am at 3/10th's of the goal for a 10k horse & I don't know if I can justify $8 more for a horse ). Worth it or not really in my case?

you can buy a horse at a stable master for 10k or a nicer one for 42k but its for looks only nothing else for the nire expensive ones @vek892_ESO

though the imperial toon is very nice for stam based chars I will say because they get a significant hp and stam boost via the passives

Atrek · December 2015

@Lightninvash Is 10k gold super hard to get anymore? I've been googling mounts for a little while and have heard on and off that 10k is way too much for a mount & 10k is easy to get by lvl10. I am lvl 14.5, though I will admit I spent ~2.5k on siege weapons (ballista/trebuchet/catapult just looked like fun

).

Lightninvash · December 2015

vek892_ESO wrote: »

@Lightninvash Is 10k gold super hard to get anymore? I've been googling mounts for a little while and have heard on and off that 10k is way too much for a mount & 10k is easy to get by lvl10. I am lvl 14.5, though I will admit I spent ~2.5k on siege weapons (ballista/trebuchet/catapult just looked like fun ).

@vek892_ESO yes 10k is way easy to get now the 42k one is a bit much for cosmetic but it beats the hell out of paying $20+ rl bucks to get a mount for cosmetics haha. i mean even later in game to buy exp pots(don't know how prices changed) but for a while a 30min 2x xp pot were like 5-7k per pot and my guildmates would buy 10-20 at a time.

i tend to help friends i meet that are new by buying them a horse for 10k or rather giving 10k and taking them to buy it, too bad you don't play on xbox1

Rohaus · December 2015

Isbilen wrote: »

Not me, but a friend of mine downloaded the game and played for a little while, then the question of how long it will take him to catch up to me came up, and I told him about the Champion System. That pretty much killed it for him.

I have a friend that came back to the game recently. I knew that in order to keep his attention, I would need to level a character with him... and, seeing as I have only ONE VR16 character, it was a pretty easy decision to level another toon with my friend. Since I have only been through the leveling content once, and that was a long time ago, it is actually pretty cool playing through the content again.

So, my suggestion... if this is a buddy and someone you would enjoy playing the game with... level a toon with him! AND... hit up BlackWater once you hit level 15... that way you have both bars to work with.

Lightninvash · December 2015

Rohaus wrote: »

Isbilen wrote: »

Not me, but a friend of mine downloaded the game and played for a little while, then the question of how long it will take him to catch up to me came up, and I told him about the Champion System. That pretty much killed it for him.

I have a friend that came back to the game recently. I knew that in order to keep his attention, I would need to level a character with him... and, seeing as I have only ONE VR16 character, it was a pretty easy decision to level another toon with my friend. Since I have only been through the leveling content once, and that was a long time ago, it is actually pretty cool playing through the content again.

So, my suggestion... if this is a buddy and someone you would enjoy playing the game with... level a toon with him! AND... hit up BlackWater once you hit level 15... that way you have both bars to work with.

just don't forget to mention to that friend before going to cyrodiil to buy that 10k coin horse from the stable master cus cyrodiil is too huge for no horse haha

Atrek · December 2015

I ran around with NO horse and I teleported to a fort just one lane away from a seige and... fight was over by the time I got there (happened twice). Sometimes you do get lucky and someone does the speed/sprint buff so you get there along with a few cloaked/stealth players and get to participate (or you find a fort you went to about to be sieged).

UltimaJoe777 · December 2015

vek892_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

vek892_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

vek892_ESO wrote: »

@SturgeHammer
Any advice for RP'ers?

@UrQuan
I also made 3 characters, one of each faction so I am trying out my Brenton mage now. Wish I would of done Coldharbour though (no staves/gear from that area) instead of skipping the tutorial.

Yeah, I've got a multitude of characters (across all factions), and the couple of times I skipped the tutorial I regretted it. I'm sure not everyone feels the same way, but I like running around in the Wailing Prison collecting the gear I can find there, and then coming out of it with some actual equipment.

My most important advice to you: if you haven't already figured this out (I know I didn't figure it out when I first started, but you were part of a beta stress test, so you might have known this already), the quest giver just outside of the house that you wake up in after the tutorial gives you a quest that sends you on a boat to an island. DO THIS QUEST FIRST! Or as early as possible, if you've already started doing other stuff.

That quest sends you to the actual starter zones. The zone that you wake up in is the first full zone of the game, but it's not the zone that is intended to teach you gameplay and really introduce you to the game. The starter zones are intended for brand new characters, they give you some decent XP, some decent gear, some skyshards, some interesting characters and quests, and are just generally the best place to start playing the game.

Followed your advice on the sidequests and am at ~lvl8.5 so far and a roaming just outside the city looking for anchors (random encounters? or there a good spot to at least see one on free weekend?), new quests, etc.

Kind of annoyed the main quest leaves me hanging with no new objectives (it was just getting interesting!)... Did the Mage's Guild quest up to the waiting point as well. Eh guess I will just wander around and be a wandering wizard til main/mage quests show up.

Yeah, I found the main quest and the guild quests (if you haven't yet joined the fighters guild and started the first fighters guild quest, you should do that too - when I first started playing I thought I had to pick one or the other, and didn't realize you could join both the fighters guild and the mages guild) a little odd in how they progress when I first started. Basically the main quest gives you a new quest every 5 levels. So the first time you get to a major city after hitting level 10 you'll have the prophet appear and ask you to come to the Harborage for the next quest.

It's similar with the guild quests. You get a new mages guild quest each time you rank up in the mages guild skill line, as long as you go past a mages guildhall. It's the same with the fighters guild.

You can wait as long as you want to do the main quest and the guild quests, as the quests (which are forced solo instances) scale to your level - including having the enemies and loot scale to your level. If you wanted to, you could wait until you're level 50 (which is actually Vet Rank 1) before doing the quest from the main quest line that you got at level 10.

Joined the fighters guild as well, I've heard you can only join ~6 guilds max. Are there more than 6 guilds present in the game (just so I know if I should hold off of guild joining like crazy)?

I also got to the main PvP area and WOW is it intense. Only downside so far is no mount = lots of running and dying from splinter groups.

Just to clarify, there are currently 3 in-game guilds that give you skill lines: Fighter's Guild, Mage's Guild, and Undaunted. The Thieves' Guild and Dark Brotherhood are coming. No other in-game guilds are known or confirmed at this time. As for player guilds, you can join up to 5.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · December 2015

temjiu wrote: »

Want a good example? SWtOR just came out with an amazing Story based expansion, got great reception. Part of the positive reviews was that you could start at level cap (pretty much) if you wanted, to join in on the story with your friends. OR, you could start a new character, and they severely reduced the leveling process. You can pretty much just do the main storyline, and get to level cap with that alone. or do side quests if you like.

You do understand that

a) SWTOR allows access to KOTFE only if you have sub. If you do not, tough sh*t.

b) The moment the subscription ends, you are stuck not only how many characters you have, but rewards, money, items and ACCESS to the game.

c) KOTFE is around 8 hours content. Khenarthi Roost & Auridon put together are almost 20 hours. (except if you rush).

d) Not everyone was entitled to Level 60 char (which is still not the cap), and yuo have to buy extra tokens, and no access to the class storyline. In addition to that the system is different. An insta V1 or V16 character going to be severely crippled.
You have no skill lines leveled. Nor abilities or morphs. Neither Skill points.
You have to do all the content at V16 then.
And add that those insta level 60s at SWTOR do not pass through the legacy the class buff, if you haven't unlocked it previously. So you need to do the class line to unlock it, WITH another character starting from level 1 as normal.

e) Have you seen the posts at SWTOR forums with some new people who bought insta 60 passes, and tried to do raids & pvp without having a clue, infuriating everyone?

(And I do spend my time between SWTOR and TESO).

Spacemonkey · December 2015

MMMBELD wrote: »

I'm with you @danno8 @vek892_ESO I didn't play beta, and my first time through I was like WTF? Granted, that was a long time ago, but friends who jumped on recently I had to tell them to get on that boat first. They were totally lost.

I have no idea who complained about being dumped on noob island to start that made them change it, I wasn't there.

Seems like that would have been a good change to do prior to freekend.

Because early in the Beta you had the tutorial in oblivion and the noob island(s) (only AD has a single noob area) - and it was very obscure that you could actually skip it - so 90% of people complained about the tutorial being long etc.. Even now I still feel like Kenarthi's Roost is the only tutorial area that is any fun. All the others have the worse fetch quests ever and a bad storyline behind them. At least AD's is a whole crisis with the Maormer trying to encroach on AD territory and introduces the entire Alliance parties and LOGICALLY gets you involved with the big players as soon as you're back in Auridon.

Tyr · December 2015

Isbilen wrote: »

Not me, but a friend of mine downloaded the game and played for a little while, then the question of how long it will take him to catch up to me came up, and I told him about the Champion System. That pretty much killed it for him.

It would take him 300 days to get to 501 CP if he plays semi-casually. If they raise the CP cap in that time, he'll be catching up even faster due to the way the formula works.

Atrek · December 2015

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

temjiu wrote: »

Want a good example? SWtOR just came out with an amazing Story based expansion, got great reception. Part of the positive reviews was that you could start at level cap (pretty much) if you wanted, to join in on the story with your friends. OR, you could start a new character, and they severely reduced the leveling process. You can pretty much just do the main storyline, and get to level cap with that alone. or do side quests if you like.

You do understand that

a) SWTOR allows access to KOTFE only if you have sub. If you do not, tough sh*t.

b) The moment the subscription ends, you are stuck not only how many characters you have, but rewards, money, items and ACCESS to the game.

c) KOTFE is around 8 hours content. Khenarthi Roost & Auridon put together are almost 20 hours. (except if you rush).

d) Not everyone was entitled to Level 60 char (which is still not the cap), and yuo have to buy extra tokens, and no access to the class storyline. In addition to that the system is different. An insta V1 or V16 character going to be severely crippled.
You have no skill lines leveled. Nor abilities or morphs. Neither Skill points.
You have to do all the content at V16 then.
And add that those insta level 60s at SWTOR do not pass through the legacy the class buff, if you haven't unlocked it previously. So you need to do the class line to unlock it, WITH another character starting from level 1 as normal.

e) Have you seen the posts at SWTOR forums with some new people who bought insta 60 passes, and tried to do raids & pvp without having a clue, infuriating everyone?

(And I do spend my time between SWTOR and TESO).

SWTOR gave you a 'free' lvl 60 for the new content because they are doing episodic releases and wished to expand their player base. I've played SWTOR since it launched and the 'free' 60 is nice as I have already grinded 6+ characters to lvl 60 for KotFE release.

Also, for SWTOR/KotFE you get to keep the KotFE current chapters that you had as a subscriber if you unsubscribe but don't get new chapters until you resubscribe.

Sidenote: This is also getting a bit off topic from just 'free weekenders' impressions of ESO.

Atrek · December 2015

Sorry for double posting but... Does anyone know when the 60% off ends today? All I am seeing on the announcement is: "As part of this special weekend, you can also save 60% on your purchase of The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited through Monday, December 14th." I know free weekend stopped for the game/playing at 3AM EST.

Just wondering since I might have to work this afternoon and would probably purchase after work.

Lightninvash · December 2015

vek892_ESO wrote: »

I ran around with NO horse and I teleported to a fort just one lane away from a seige and... fight was over by the time I got there (happened twice). Sometimes you do get lucky and someone does the speed/sprint buff so you get there along with a few cloaked/stealth players and get to participate (or you find a fort you went to about to be sieged).

yeah that buff for speed is rapid maneuvers in your assult line for cyrodiil its stamina based. but a good thing to have. also not sure about the timing on when it will end I say safe side buy now incase it ends soon haha @vek892_ESO

Artjuh90 · December 2015

@Lightninvash you missed "pc masta race" in you signature

Lightninvash · December 2015

Artjuh90 wrote: »

@Lightninvash you missed "pc masta race" in you signature

@Artjuh90 *console player* ^.^ decided to go that route now a days instead used to be pc and console but i switched completel im not a fan of mouse and keyboard gaming too much haha i mean i can if i have to lol

WhatDoesItMatter · December 2015

I'm not a "Freekender" but I did buy the game yesterday and have been trying it out today after a 12-hour-long download. I played it on the PC for a couple of hours and was not really enjoying it. I have to use the gamepad UI because my illness makes using keyboard and mouse very difficult. The biggest issue for me was the gamertags in place of character names - completely destroys any hope of immersion. Were it not for that I might've stuck with it for longer.

I also thought the graphics and animations were particularly poor and the crafting system a bit convoluted, but that wouldn't have stopped me from giving it more of a fair go if character names hadn't been such an issue.

On the positive side the voiced quest givers was a nice touch and the voice acting was very good. I was kinda looking forward to speccing out a Templar Magicka Tank as well as the skill system seemed decent enough. I also only paid like £12 for it so at least I didn't waste much money - wish I'd spotted the free trial weekend though.

Jura23 · December 2015

WhatDoesItMatter wrote: »

I'm not a "Freekender" but I did buy the game yesterday and have been trying it out today after a 12-hour-long download. I played it on the PC for a couple of hours and was not really enjoying it. I have to use the gamepad UI because my illness makes using keyboard and mouse very difficult. The biggest issue for me was the gamertags in place of character names - completely destroys any hope of immersion. Were it not for that I might've stuck with it for longer.

I also thought the graphics and animations were particularly poor and the crafting system a bit convoluted, but that wouldn't have stopped me from giving it more of a fair go if character names hadn't been such an issue.

On the positive side the voiced quest givers was a nice touch and the voice acting was very good. I was kinda looking forward to speccing out a Templar Magicka Tank as well as the skill system seemed decent enough. I also only paid like £12 for it so at least I didn't waste much money - wish I'd spotted the free trial weekend though.

Hate to say this, but what did you expect? There is no RP servers in ESO. This is how it is everywhere, not just ESO. Unless you find a game with RP servers (LotRO?).

WhatDoesItMatter · December 2015

Jura23 wrote: »

Hate to say this, but what did you expect? There is no RP servers in ESO. This is how it is everywhere, not just ESO. Unless you find a game with RP servers (LotRO?).

I don't need RP servers. I played WoW, Guild Wars, SWOTOR, Tera and TSW fine without needing any RP servers. I just need to be looking at character names not gamertags - even if some of those character names are still going to be terrible at least there'd be some that weren't. This system makes all names terrible by default.

What I expected was that if I give a character a name then that name should show up when people look at my character. Not too much to ask from an MMO if you ask me. Its not an issue I've had with any other MMO.

Unfortunately, even though I did my research into the game before buying I somehow managed to miss this aspect completely. Lesson learned.

Ilsabet · December 2015

WhatDoesItMatter wrote: »

Jura23 wrote: »

Hate to say this, but what did you expect? There is no RP servers in ESO. This is how it is everywhere, not just ESO. Unless you find a game with RP servers (LotRO?).

I don't need RP servers. I played WoW, Guild Wars, SWOTOR, Tera and TSW fine without needing any RP servers. I just need to be looking at character names not gamertags - even if some of those character names are still going to be terrible at least there'd be some that weren't. This system makes all names terrible by default.

What I expected was that if I give a character a name then that name should show up when people look at my character. Not too much to ask from an MMO if you ask me. Its not an issue I've had with any other MMO.

Unfortunately, even though I did my research into the game before buying I somehow managed to miss this aspect completely. Lesson learned.

If you're playing on PC, then you should be seeing character names when you look at characters. The account IDs/gamertags only come into play with things like guild chat and sending private messages.

WhatDoesItMatter · December 2015

Ilsabet wrote: »

If you're playing on PC, then you should be seeing character names when you look at characters. The account IDs/gamertags only come into play with things like guild chat and sending private messages.

I think that is the case if you use keyboard and mouse, but I have to use a gamepad and I've read that it causes the same name issue you get on the consoles - ie gamertags instead of character names. I certainly can't see any option for it in game.

If I'm wrong then I'd be happy to hear of a way to be able to see character names when using the gamepad UI? I might actually play it a bit more if that could be done.

Fuzzywuzzy196 · December 2015

I'm having a blast, with the little I've seen so far. PvE has been thoroughly enjoyable, and PvP (although not what I was expecting) has been nothing but fun.

I ran into an enemy on my way to complete my first scouting mission, whom I was managing to defeat pretty well on my own up until another one appeared and at that point I thought I was in some trouble, but about 30 allies who seemed to come out of nowhere obliterated them and we went on to capture an enemy stronghold. Being swept into a full scale battle that happened in a matter of moments was just a wonderful experience.

WhatDoesItMatter · December 2015

I'm going to retract my earlier assessment of the game and say that I'm now really enjoying it. The graphics have grown on me and the questing is pretty good for an MMO. I've also gotten to like the combat, although it gets a little tricky to time your blocks etc when a bit of lag kicks in.

I think maybe it didn't help that I came directly from playing Fallout 4 to this. It takes a bit of getting used to but I think this is actually a pretty good MMO all round.