How do you mag dk in pvp?

CavalierPrime · December 2015

Been running 5L/1M/1H. 5 Julianos, 3 Willpower, 1 Molag Kena, 2 Torugs Pact.

Inferno Staff - Igneous Shield, Fossilize, Dragon Fire Scales, Structured Entropy, Force Pulse
Sword and Board - Deep Breath, Invasion, Dragon Fire Scales, Burning Embers, Flame Lash

What would you change? I am still getting run over by stamina builds when separated from my guild, but in a zerg I am doing major damage.

leepalmer95 · December 2015

Wheres is your heal?

CavalierPrime · December 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Wheres is your heal?

Seems to me that true heals wouldn't help. I am getting lambasted by stamina builds while I am laying on the ground. They can burn me down faster than i can heal anyway. Deep breath can do some heals.

Jhunn · December 2015

1) Go to siege merchant

2) Buy siege

3) Place siege

4) Left click

#MagickaDK

TheBull · December 2015

You need a restro staff.

Beyond that, talons, fossilize rotation. WB stam builds are really tough for magicka DKs though.

Ishammael · December 2015

You can't play all-in dmg spec on a magicka DK as you are geared. DK skills don't fit that playstyle. There is a reason why the "traditional" magicka DK was a perma-blocker: DKs have zero mobility and zero escape. Therefore, spec to fight that way. Expect three guys to be in your face at all times.

Start with TheBull's suggestion:

TheBull wrote: »

You need a restro staff.

Beyond that, talons, fossilize rotation. WB stam builds are really tough for magicka DKs though.

Beyond simply telling you what to do, think about the way your passives work, the manor in which you achieve maximum DPS and how you are going to defend yourself against the invisible NB and super-mobile Sorc.

Also realize that Magicka DK is super hard mode right now.

CavalierPrime · December 2015

Thank you deeply for your help. Breton Dragonknight was what I rolled and Im a one-character guy. Over time I have come to enjoy it, and he is very strong in pve. I just want to compete and have fun in pvp with him too.
I was using Talons in the Burning Embers slot but Talons seems to just not work sometimes. Are they blocking my Talons? My Fossilizes are working but they just break CC immediately and come WB me. Plus I have been able to proc Power Lash off Invasion as well as dudes just being dizzy off other peoples spells.

Joy_Division · December 2015

CavalierPrime wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Wheres is your heal?

Seems to me that true heals wouldn't help. I am getting lambasted by stamina builds while I am laying on the ground. They can burn me down faster than i can heal anyway. Deep breath can do some heals.

That's because you are trying to play the worst spec (magicka DK) in the game right now. You can try to slot a restoration staff and use healing ward, it is by far your best option, but I'd advise you not to log into Cyrodiil with your DK if you have small children in the house because they will hear you say things you rather not say.

CavalierPrime · December 2015

Sorry for double post. I can not locate editing while on my phone.
I have been noticing better results from my Staff, as its hard to notice when youre getting Force Pulsed sometimes, and when they start shooting back, I can reflect their stuff for a quick kill before they realize what's happening (those are the bad players like me, no doubt, but there are so many of us, its skewing my results).
Would you experts recommend forgoing the leap ability the sword and board gives me for a restoration staff, basically going back to my Maelstrom build?
Its not that my light armor is making me pay a price when I jump in. If I Invasion someone, theyre dying more often than not. Where im getting into trouble is when I get cornered by three enemies, or when I get jumped by a NB or another WB build. Im just getting insta-sapped.

leepalmer95 · December 2015

CavalierPrime wrote: »

Sorry for double post. I can not locate editing while on my phone.
I have been noticing better results from my Staff, as its hard to notice when youre getting Force Pulsed sometimes, and when they start shooting back, I can reflect their stuff for a quick kill before they realize what's happening (those are the bad players like me, no doubt, but there are so many of us, its skewing my results).
Would you experts recommend forgoing the leap ability the sword and board gives me for a restoration staff, basically going back to my Maelstrom build?
Its not that my light armor is making me pay a price when I jump in. If I Invasion someone, theyre dying more often than not. Where im getting into trouble is when I get cornered by three enemies, or when I get jumped by a NB or another WB build. Im just getting insta-sapped.

Well the resto staff was for healing ward which would be your only viable heal.

Dk's just get screwed overall unlike everyone other class dk's are missing

Class Gap closer
Class Execute
Class high dmg skill
Class heal
Class high shield

etc... they just sort of have random abilities that are terrible in pvp.

AverageJo3Gam3r · December 2015

You have to be super aware of WB users. It's a channel animation, so you can dodge roll it. When they start the animation, hit them with a DoT animation cancelled with a dodge roll *into them* to avoid the blow, cc them then whip until they break it. Then leap, meteor, or dawn breaker them. That's your burst, and because of low DPS of whip and lack of a DK execute, it usually isn't enough. Once you get proxy det you'll have more burst.

And yes, use a resto on the back bar. With igneous shield, healing ward, rapid regen, and scales, you're really difficult for sorcs to take you down.

IxskullzxI · December 2015

Imo, blessing of restoration works better than healing ward. At least against stam users. All it takes is one wrecking blow and its gone. Unless you're stacking points into bastion.

KostasDragonborn · December 2015

My Magicka DK is 5H1L1M, 5 Kagrenac, 3 willpower jewelry, rest Magnus, sword and shield and resto, and run hardened armor and get your mana regen up to 1800, run entropy on both bars for more health and hardened armor and stam builds won't be as much of an issue. You're no good to anyone with high spell damage as a dead squishy DK in 5 light.