ZOS, about the costumes...

Nifty2g · December 2015

CANCEL ALL THE BUG FIXES

We need to dye costumes.

MornaBaine · December 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

CANCEL ALL THE BUG FIXES

We need to dye costumes.

Oh spare me the hyperbole. These two things are in no way related. "Useless Fluff" is here to stay and no amount of complaining that it should not even be a thing until the game is perfect in every way is going to change it. Remember, when you have to ask the question, "Why?" the answer is ALWAYS, "Money." Crown Store fluff is easy and makes ZOS Money. It's here to stay. That being the case there is absolutely no good reason we shouldn't tell them what we want and what would indeed incline us to part with our $$. No one is going into the latest "Fix Bug X and Cyrodiil lag!" thread and saying, "No! Divert ALL manpower to creating more and better costumes!" Because we KNOW that is every bit as ludicrous as what you just did in this thread.

SantieClaws · December 2015

I think they have different teams to crunch out bugs in the code and to make frilly dresses - at least I hope they do - although it might explain one or two of the bugs

ZOS_GinaBruno · December 2015

Being able to dye costumes is something we're working on for the future.

And yes, the team that works on Crown Store items are not the ones who work on server performance.

MornaBaine · December 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Being able to dye costumes is something we're working on for the future.

And yes, the team that works on Crown Store items are not the ones who work on server performance.

I love you Gina. Truly. Madly.

Recremen · December 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Being able to dye costumes is something we're working on for the future.

6 out of 5 stars, these are the responses we like to hear! Along that same line of thought, any word on being able to restyle/change motif on gear so we can get the maximum degree of customization out of our armor?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

DanielWinterborn · December 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Being able to dye costumes is something we're working on for the future.

And yes, the team that works on Crown Store items are not the ones who work on server performance.

From all the threads in here you pick the most unimportant ones to comment on. Typical

Elsonso · December 2015

MornaBaine wrote: »

wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »

I think they would sell more costumes if we were able to dye them than they would with issuing recoloured costumes. If dyeable costumes would totally kill the game code in some way though then I'd take a choice of colours in the store as a second best option.

I know I'd have bought more costumes if I could have changed the colour myself. It's often not the costume that I don't like but the choices of colour used.

I'd also love to be able to wear my usual headgear with any costume. That's pretty important for me as I am still using my lucky level 14 hat.

Yeah I'm not sure what the coding issues are that they don't even want to consider making the costumes dyeable. But failing that, offering them in more colors really does just make sense. It's cheap and easy for them to do and they already do it for mounts so you'd think they'd realize it's the smart thing to do for costumes as well.

It is a lot of work to make them dye-able, if my guess is correct. First, I doubt that the Crown costume is actually "yours"... you are probably using the same costume as everyone else. There is not a separate "item" that is yours. (regular bathing and hygiene is important) Costume dyes means that "your" costumes would have to really be "yours", a dyed version of the original instead of just using the original, which is probably a big change right there. Next, the costume itself needs to be built to allow at least four layers of textures, one that is fixed and cannot be changed and up to three other ones that can be colored using a solid color. If this is not done, that work has to be done and all the current textures rebuilt so that they look the same, if that is even possible. Then, of course, is the UI issue. Today, the dye station shows the armor and strips off any costumes. That would have to change and the player would have to be able to control whether they were going to be coloring the costume of the armor it hides.

I am glad that they are looking into it, though.

SantieClaws · December 2015

Ahh now yes Santie can buy all the dresses she wants - knowing that some day she will be able to dye them all red and green

Happy Khajiit dance! Which is much the same as drunken Khajiit dance thinking about it ...

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Reznique · December 2015

i want to dye my guar

gen_reynard2050 · December 2015

Maybe.... can give us to
1st, choose the costume color,
2nd, add to cart
3rd, confirm purchase..

if ZOS want to make money... then they can charge us for dye costume color for 10crown/ea

teehee-crazy-rabbit-emoticon.gif?1292793779

khele23eb17_ESO · December 2015

lordrichter wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »

I think they would sell more costumes if we were able to dye them than they would with issuing recoloured costumes. If dyeable costumes would totally kill the game code in some way though then I'd take a choice of colours in the store as a second best option.

I know I'd have bought more costumes if I could have changed the colour myself. It's often not the costume that I don't like but the choices of colour used.

I'd also love to be able to wear my usual headgear with any costume. That's pretty important for me as I am still using my lucky level 14 hat.

Yeah I'm not sure what the coding issues are that they don't even want to consider making the costumes dyeable. But failing that, offering them in more colors really does just make sense. It's cheap and easy for them to do and they already do it for mounts so you'd think they'd realize it's the smart thing to do for costumes as well.

It is a lot of work to make them dye-able, if my guess is correct. First, I doubt that the Crown costume is actually "yours"... you are probably using the same costume as everyone else. There is not a separate "item" that is yours. (regular bathing and hygiene is important) Costume dyes means that "your" costumes would have to really be "yours", a dyed version of the original instead of just using the original, which is probably a big change right there.

Is it really that big? Theres no need for 'your version of the costume' theres just need for your version of the color scheme, which is like 3 numbers and the name of the costume:

Player XYZ_437863
costume Xds_2: color 0043/color 5231/color 2221
costume Csd_11: color 1124/color 2324/color 6451
costume C4r_A2: color 0044/color 2120/color 7743

Thats all the information needed.

The other 2 things you mentioned I agree with. Theyd require some work.

Paulington · December 2015

lordrichter wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »

I think they would sell more costumes if we were able to dye them than they would with issuing recoloured costumes. If dyeable costumes would totally kill the game code in some way though then I'd take a choice of colours in the store as a second best option.

I know I'd have bought more costumes if I could have changed the colour myself. It's often not the costume that I don't like but the choices of colour used.

I'd also love to be able to wear my usual headgear with any costume. That's pretty important for me as I am still using my lucky level 14 hat.

Yeah I'm not sure what the coding issues are that they don't even want to consider making the costumes dyeable. But failing that, offering them in more colors really does just make sense. It's cheap and easy for them to do and they already do it for mounts so you'd think they'd realize it's the smart thing to do for costumes as well.

It is a lot of work to make them dye-able, if my guess is correct. First, I doubt that the Crown costume is actually "yours"... you are probably using the same costume as everyone else. There is not a separate "item" that is yours. (regular bathing and hygiene is important) Costume dyes means that "your" costumes would have to really be "yours", a dyed version of the original instead of just using the original, which is probably a big change right there. Next, the costume itself needs to be built to allow at least four layers of textures, one that is fixed and cannot be changed and up to three other ones that can be colored using a solid color. If this is not done, that work has to be done and all the current textures rebuilt so that they look the same, if that is even possible. Then, of course, is the UI issue. Today, the dye station shows the armor and strips off any costumes. That would have to change and the player would have to be able to control whether they were going to be coloring the costume of the armor it hides.

I am glad that they are looking into it, though.

If you watch the ESO Live with Tatiana Malinko (a few ESO Lives back now) she gives an explanation on why costume dying is not in the game yet and why we can't wear tabards with costumes. It's a technical limitation that they are trying to resolve but it is difficult to do, so you are right there.

It will come, but it may be a while.

zZzleepyhead · December 2015

MornaBaine wrote: »

Red, purple and gray??? Are you KIDDING ME???? Seriously, who did this? PLEASE offer it in black with those colors instead of purple. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, silver instead of gold would make this amazing! But get rid of the purple!

Purple is a sign of royalty.
nothin' beats purps

AlienSlof · December 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Being able to dye costumes is something we're working on for the future.

And yes, the team that works on Crown Store items are not the ones who work on server performance.

Ohh, awesome!

MornaBaine · December 2015

zZzleepyhead wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Red, purple and gray??? Are you KIDDING ME???? Seriously, who did this? PLEASE offer it in black with those colors instead of purple. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, silver instead of gold would make this amazing! But get rid of the purple!

Purple is a sign of royalty.
nothin' beats purps

If it MUST be purple then the RED needs to go! LOL It's not that I hate purple (tho I prefer red)...I hate garish clashing colors used on the same thing!

Forestd16b14_ESO · December 2015

And here I am still waiting for the weapon dyes that ZOS promised us to go along side shield dyes but said delayed a few weeks cause so many weapons............

Recremen · December 2015

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

And here I am still waiting for the weapon dyes that ZOS promised us to go along side shield dyes but said delayed a few weeks cause so many weapons............

Wait, this was confirmed as a thing? If so, that's super exciting! Got a source?

vladimilianoub17_ESO1 · December 2015

MornaBaine wrote: »

Red, purple and gray??? Are you KIDDING ME???? Seriously, who did this? PLEASE offer it in black with those colors instead of purple. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, silver instead of gold would make this amazing! But get rid of the purple!

Wow this screenshot.That dress!!! is this really ESO? damn i need to upgrade my PC

Jayne_Doe · December 2015

The wedding dress and the evening dress are basically the same dress, just in different colors with a different headpiece.

The noble dress is slightly different in the top, but otherwise looks very similar.

The current male clothing options, however, are quite different from each other. The wedding suit looks quite a bit different from the noble suit.

However, the new costumes, if you really look closely, are all built on the same framework. For the female set, the second dress is basically the same as the first outfit, just with a skirt instead of trousers and a bit more frill/detail. And the third adds a coat and high collar, plus more/different details.

Same with the male outfits. The top/jacket is the same for all three, just the second and third are robes with different details/accents.

I'd still like to see a dye system implemented, but they are already doing multiple versions of basically the same outfit. More elaborate than the mounts, but still, the basic outfit designs are the same.

Elsonso · December 2015

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »

I think they would sell more costumes if we were able to dye them than they would with issuing recoloured costumes. If dyeable costumes would totally kill the game code in some way though then I'd take a choice of colours in the store as a second best option.

I know I'd have bought more costumes if I could have changed the colour myself. It's often not the costume that I don't like but the choices of colour used.

I'd also love to be able to wear my usual headgear with any costume. That's pretty important for me as I am still using my lucky level 14 hat.

Yeah I'm not sure what the coding issues are that they don't even want to consider making the costumes dyeable. But failing that, offering them in more colors really does just make sense. It's cheap and easy for them to do and they already do it for mounts so you'd think they'd realize it's the smart thing to do for costumes as well.

It is a lot of work to make them dye-able, if my guess is correct. First, I doubt that the Crown costume is actually "yours"... you are probably using the same costume as everyone else. There is not a separate "item" that is yours. (regular bathing and hygiene is important) Costume dyes means that "your" costumes would have to really be "yours", a dyed version of the original instead of just using the original, which is probably a big change right there.

Is it really that big? Theres no need for 'your version of the costume' theres just need for your version of the color scheme, which is like 3 numbers and the name of the costume:

Player XYZ_437863
costume Xds_2: color 0043/color 5231/color 2221
costume Csd_11: color 1124/color 2324/color 6451
costume C4r_A2: color 0044/color 2120/color 7743

Thats all the information needed.

The other 2 things you mentioned I agree with. Theyd require some work.

That is your version of the costume. It is a big deal because everyone who sees you needs to have that information transmitted to them. Today, your version of the costume looks like what everyone else wears, because it is what everyone else is wearing, and when I see you wearing it, I don't have to care about what "your" version looks like. Making it yours is more than just storing sets of RGB numbers related to a specific costume in your character (or account) record.

MornaBaine · December 2015

vladimilianoub17_ESO1 wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Red, purple and gray??? Are you KIDDING ME???? Seriously, who did this? PLEASE offer it in black with those colors instead of purple. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, silver instead of gold would make this amazing! But get rid of the purple!

Wow this screenshot.That dress!!! is this really ESO? damn i need to upgrade my PC

This is an incredibly gorgeous game, which is largely why I'm still playing it. Nothing else out currently has aesthetics that are its equal and in a similar genre. In part that's why I get so frustrated about having such limited customization options. Not only do I want better costumes, I want more (and changeable!) hair and makeup options as well! I want my characters to be able to look as amazing as they world they live in!

Spacemonkey · December 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Being able to dye costumes is something we're working on for the future.

And yes, the team that works on Crown Store items are not the ones who work on server performance.

@ZOS_GinaBruno - I would give you a fishy stick but it is impossible you haven't already got one. So I will settle on fishy fish : D

- In game also if you want : )

khele23eb17_ESO · December 2015

Recremen wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Being able to dye costumes is something we're working on for the future.

6 out of 5 stars, these are the responses we like to hear! Along that same line of thought, any word on being able to restyle/change motif on gear so we can get the maximum degree of customization out of our armor? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Just keep in mind 'for the future' probably means in a year or so :P

Gidorick · December 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Being able to dye costumes is something we're working on for the future.

And yes, the team that works on Crown Store items are not the ones who work on server performance.

CONFIRMATION FINALLY!!!!

I can't believe this was even a question. It's like expecting the guy that loads the luggage into a plane to be the same guy that repairs the engine... some people don't understand how specialized jobs in the games industry is.

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO · December 2015

MornaBaine wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Lol think you've got it bad, look at this crap

Yeah I'm not sure when the Orcs went Oriental!

Actually if you pay attention to each race from ESO they have distinct aesthetics taken directly from ancient cultures. Nord are like the Scandinavian cultures, Vikings, axes and lots of mead. The imperials are simliar to the Romans, the Argonians are simliar to an Aztec / Mayan culture with all their prymids and what not, the orcs have taken their influence from the feudal Japanese era. Although the Orcs also have similarities to a nomadic tribe with the architecture of the the strongholds. I know there are more races but you get the picture.

NewBlacksmurf · December 2015

gen_reynard2050 wrote: »

Maybe.... can give us to
1st, choose the costume color,
2nd, add to cart
3rd, confirm purchase..

if ZOS want to make money... then they can charge us for dye costume color for 10crown/ea

Prob better to just use the existing dye feature...just saying
-The idea is that ppl want to buy but want some level of customization.

Understanding how costumes work, doing it any other way will push people away from buying when the long term request since day one has been to allow dye of costumes of all types.

Hanzus · December 2015

MornaBaine wrote: »

Also, I'm begging you, PLEASE don't make this new slate of dresses blow up our characters' boobs to "epic" proportions! The wedding dress and the black and red version of same are HORRIBLE because of that! Please say you've learned your lesson!

Thank goodness you have no say in producing any of this

MornaBaine · December 2015

Hanzus wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Also, I'm begging you, PLEASE don't make this new slate of dresses blow up our characters' boobs to "epic" proportions! The wedding dress and the black and red version of same are HORRIBLE because of that! Please say you've learned your lesson!

Thank goodness you have no say in producing any of this

Shush you! LOL

MornaBaine · December 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Being able to dye costumes is something we're working on for the future.

And yes, the team that works on Crown Store items are not the ones who work on server performance.

Of course there is no indication of WHEN "the future" will arrive. So it would STILL be great if you'd offer costumes in AT LEAST 3 color options until that wonderful day finally arrives. Just sayin'...