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I used to be a tank like you . . .

  • jakeedmundson
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    Ariisen wrote: »
    It's not so bad for DK tanks, just loop Igneous Shield until you run dry of magicka, then pop a magicka\stamina potion, when the effect of the potion is over you drop your standard\horn or use the corrosive armor and heavy attack if the situation is dire.

    NB tanks have Siphoning Attacks so they can manage somehow..

    Templars...

    DK stamina tanks can't loop ign shield.... you might get two casts out of it and one gdb to heal before you're empty.
    Also... ign shield is next to worthless for the amount of shield you actually get. the only real benefit is the bonus to healing.
    draining my magicka for a crap shield isn't worth the resource.
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  • Ariisen
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    DK stamina tanks can't loop ign shield.... you might get two casts out of it and one gdb to heal before you're empty.
    Also... ign shield is next to worthless for the amount of shield you actually get.
    the only real benefit is the bonus to healing.
    draining my magicka for a crap shield isn't worth the resource.

    You get a shield, 5% of your stamina back and a bonus to healing that with a bit of CP's and the right setup can get Coagulating Blood to heal you to basically full-health, not really a crap skill.

    You might not like being a magicka tank but it's a solid choice.

    Pure stamina DK tanks are IMHO inferior to DK magicka tanks PVE wise.
    But we are getting OT
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  • jakeedmundson
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    Ariisen wrote: »
    DK stamina tanks can't loop ign shield.... you might get two casts out of it and one gdb to heal before you're empty.
    Also... ign shield is next to worthless for the amount of shield you actually get.
    the only real benefit is the bonus to healing.
    draining my magicka for a crap shield isn't worth the resource.

    You get a shield, 5% of your stamina back and a bonus to healing that with a bit of CP's and the right setup can get Coagulating Blood to heal you to basically full-health, not really a crap skill.

    You might not like being a magicka tank but it's a solid choice.

    Pure stamina DK tanks are IMHO inferior to DK magicka tanks PVE wise.
    But we are getting OT

    I know what the skill does.... i still use it (as often as i can). i'm just saying its not as useful as it probably should be. the shield is tiny... hardly worth spending 3500 magicka on it over and over. especially when you have maybe 15k magicka?
    Once again.... being funneled into a single build is stupid. Tanks need magicka to cast all the buffs and heals.... but need stamina to block/run/break free/roll dodge/use attack skills and taunts but STILL have 30k health.... you can't win in the resource game as a tank.

    Well i'll just go ahead and make the quick switch from stamina to magicka.... you know... remake all my gear... again... remake all my glyphs.... again.... (it'll be so much FUN to make new v15/16 gear again!) pay to re-allocate my skills points and attributes.... again.

    OR they could just make tanking reasonable in general.... having to respec and rebuild to try 100 different ways to tank is insane... you know how many times i've respec'd on my sorc for dps? zero... because its so easy to work as a dps and the best gear to use is easy to choose. Even to go dps on the dk and get 3k+ wd is simple (besides finding briar jewelry)
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    Lv 50 Dunmer DragonKnight Tank/Dps
    Lv 50 Altmer Sorcerer Dps
    Lv 50 Breton Templar Healer/Dps
    Lv 50 Altmer Nightblade Dps
    Lv 50 Redguard Sorcerer Dps
    PS4 - DC
    vSOHM - vAAHM - vHRC - vMA Flawless

    My version of a Heavy Attack Sorc build
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  • aialghannam_ESO
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    Ariisen wrote: »
    DK stamina tanks can't loop ign shield.... you might get two casts out of it and one gdb to heal before you're empty.
    Also... ign shield is next to worthless for the amount of shield you actually get.
    the only real benefit is the bonus to healing.
    draining my magicka for a crap shield isn't worth the resource.

    You get a shield, 5% of your stamina back and a bonus to healing that with a bit of CP's and the right setup can get Coagulating Blood to heal you to basically full-health, not really a crap skill.

    You might not like being a magicka tank but it's a solid choice.

    Pure stamina DK tanks are IMHO inferior to DK magicka tanks PVE wise.
    But we are getting OT

    I know what the skill does.... i still use it (as often as i can). i'm just saying its not as useful as it probably should be. the shield is tiny... hardly worth spending 3500 magicka on it over and over. especially when you have maybe 15k magicka?
    Once again.... being funneled into a single build is stupid. Tanks need magicka to cast all the buffs and heals.... but need stamina to block/run/break free/roll dodge/use attack skills and taunts but STILL have 30k health.... you can't win in the resource game as a tank.

    Well i'll just go ahead and make the quick switch from stamina to magicka.... you know... remake all my gear... again... remake all my glyphs.... again.... (it'll be so much FUN to make new v15/16 gear again!) pay to re-allocate my skills points and attributes.... again.

    OR they could just make tanking reasonable in general.... having to respec and rebuild to try 100 different ways to tank is insane... you know how many times i've respec'd on my sorc for dps? zero... because its so easy to work as a dps and the best gear to use is easy to choose. Even to go dps on the dk and get 3k+ wd is simple (besides finding briar jewelry)

    Pretty much this.
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  • NBrookus
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    Spamming Igneous Shield grants you a damage shield plus 30% healing received, which in some cases will allow you to drop block because the shield will absorb smaller hits, allowing for more stamina management.

    Igneous Shield is my very, very best friend.

    Until I get hit with 100k Flame Spit.
    Edited by NBrookus on December 2, 2015 9:37PM
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Igneous Shield, Coagulation Blood, Spike Armor, Igneous Weapons, Dragon Leap, and Petrify are my favorite DK skills whether magicka or stamina. Talons is probably my favorite magicka build skill in combination with some other attack. The Reflect is probably my second favorite magicka skill.
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