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  • Sevalaricgirl
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    Jura23 wrote: »
    I play about 5 months. From what I've seen during that time, I don't believe atm. this group of devs is capable of running successful MMO long term. I hope they prove me wrong in the next year though.

    I used to play SWTOR and LOTRO in the past but I haven't experienced such distrust towards the devs in those games.

    Then you are going to continually distrust MMO developers because they all have issues. I haven't played one that doesn't. Obviously, MMOs are not the genre for you.
  • SHADOW2KK
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    Xantaria wrote: »
    so Zenimax what are you doing today?

    Let me have a guess, You're either doing not so much or you are working on the new Thieves guild DLC. Or even on the DLC after that. Who knows.

    But I do know that this is NOT what you should be doing. There are countless bugs in the game, you cannot trust any tooltip and almost everything that gets tested in depth prooves to be broken.

    And I would gladly not have a DLC for the next Q but instead have a Bugfix-DLC. Where you put all your money time and resources into fixing every single bug that exists in this game. Probably rewrite the code and formulas for every Ability and Passive in the game! Also adressing Lag issues. Upgrading your Server Hardware etc. And making sure the amount of bugs will always be kept low. Have a dedicated small team for hotfixes, a team that also communicates with people that report bugs. Currently Bug tickets are not allowing communication at all. I would pay a *** of money for that!

    It is completely unacceptable that whole skills and passives are broken and nothing is done about that for months!

    Bugs are driving people away. *** that cannot be explained with 'working as intended' happening to them. Dying to Lag over and over again. And dishing out new DLCs in a fast manner is not going to get those people back.

    And I'm also sure almost all people would appreciate exactly that. I'll rather have a working game with delayed content instead of a broken game that gets updated with more and more Bugs every DLC.

    The amount of Bugs currently in the game is higher than ever before and It's only going to get worse with Thieves Guild.

    Completely and utterly agree, said this many times on the forums, no sense bolting on extra bells and whistles onto a flawed infrastructure, optimise and fix the game first, then bring out new content.

    DLCs are always gonna have bugs in it, but better the vanilla game being optimised as much as possible than just bolting on more and more.

    LAG kills games, does not matter what genre, and there is a difference between fps lag and high latency, your game engine is faulty and the megaservers are faulty, do what is required to fix both.
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  • Ezareth
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    Xantaria wrote: »
    so Zenimax what are you doing today?

    Let me have a guess, You're either doing not so much or you are working on the new Thieves guild DLC. Or even on the DLC after that. Who knows.

    But I do know that this is NOT what you should be doing. There are countless bugs in the game, you cannot trust any tooltip and almost everything that gets tested in depth prooves to be broken.

    And I would gladly not have a DLC for the next Q but instead have a Bugfix-DLC. Where you put all your money time and resources into fixing every single bug that exists in this game. Probably rewrite the code and formulas for every Ability and Passive in the game! Also adressing Lag issues. Upgrading your Server Hardware etc. And making sure the amount of bugs will always be kept low. Have a dedicated small team for hotfixes, a team that also communicates with people that report bugs. Currently Bug tickets are not allowing communication at all. I would pay a *** of money for that!

    It is completely unacceptable that whole skills and passives are broken and nothing is done about that for months!

    Bugs are driving people away. *** that cannot be explained with 'working as intended' happening to them. Dying to Lag over and over again. And dishing out new DLCs in a fast manner is not going to get those people back.

    And I'm also sure almost all people would appreciate exactly that. I'll rather have a working game with delayed content instead of a broken game that gets updated with more and more Bugs every DLC.

    The amount of Bugs currently in the game is higher than ever before and It's only going to get worse with Thieves Guild.

    You're assuming that they already don't have teams or the appropriate priority assigned to this. While everyone is on bug fixing duty, what exactly is it that their Artwork/graphics, Audio, Level/environental designers and writers are supposed to be doing while collecting a paycheck?
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  • Saint314Louis1985
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    Fix the PVP lag. Everything else I can live with.
  • Elsonso
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    Xantaria wrote: »
    so Zenimax what are you doing today?

    Let me have a guess, You're either doing not so much or you are working on the new Thieves guild DLC. Or even on the DLC after that. Who knows.

    But I do know that this is NOT what you should be doing. There are countless bugs in the game, you cannot trust any tooltip and almost everything that gets tested in depth prooves to be broken.

    They are doing what they should be doing. They are mixing fix development with new content development. No one wants to sit around for a few months while they do all of the fix work that was mentioned in the OP, with nothing else coming out during that whole time. People who suffered through the "we are working on Console, please hold" in the early part of 2015 would understand this. That was only a couple of months and people were treating it like the game was closing shop, never to return. A bug fix hiatus would be much longer.






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  • Ruben
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    You're assuming that they already don't have teams or the appropriate priority assigned to this. While everyone is on bug fixing duty, what exactly is it that their Artwork/graphics, Audio, Level/environental designers and writers are supposed to be doing while collecting a paycheck?

    Some people expect everyone to stop working on everything until their issue is fixed. Without even realizing that Zenimax are fixing as many bugs as they can in hotfixes, incremental releases and even in the feared DLCs.

    The previous MMORPGs I played (starting with Lineage, back in 1998) had a lot more issues that were unresolved for years because they simply didn't care (oh, you're a wizard with higher AC than a fighter? enjoy that 30+HP damage from a 1d4 punch! By the way, you don't summon 8-12 pets anymore thanks to your 18 Charisma, here's 3 or 4 King Bugbears, survive as you can).

    Zenimax is slow fixing bugs, but at least they are not Korean slow.
    Jeckll wrote: »
    Loading Screen issue was around like multiple moths..I'd go so far to say half a year.

    The Loading Screen issue was added with Imperial City, August 31. It has been in the game for about three months. Too long if you ask me, but definitely not half a year.
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    Xantaria wrote: »
    Bugs are driving people away. *** that cannot be explained with 'working as intended' happening to them. Dying to Lag over and over again. And dishing out new DLCs in a fast manner is not going to get those people back.

    And I'm also sure almost all people would appreciate exactly that. I'll rather have a working game with delayed content instead of a broken game that gets updated with more and more Bugs every DLC.

    The amount of Bugs currently in the game is higher than ever before and It's only going to get worse with Thieves Guild.

    This is not an either or thing. Theyll loose just as many people due to content drought... or more. You can still play with a couple of broken skills, you cant play when theres nothing left to do. They should have people working on both. Although Im not sure rewriting network code and changing the server infrastructure to fix lag is even within their power financially speaking. I suspect they could afford it, Im just not sure it would be deemed cost effective by the suits.
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  • CapnPhoton
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    Valrien wrote: »
    I hope you realize that Zenimax nor any other game developer will ever be able to fix everything wrong with a video game. This game is actually not so bad about bugs, but maybe if you stopped being so cynical you'd realize that.

    Also you don't really communicate with bug reports. Zenimax even says before you send the ticket that this isn't something they will respond to, just look at to confirm that it is a bug and try to fix it if they can.

    Its difficult to get people who are cynical to realize it, and there are so many people who are. Starting out with asking someone what they are going to do today only to assume its wrong, then tell them what to do through a long winded rant about everything they are doing wrong are usually people I avoid in real life. These are people you can never satisfy. There are better ways to communicate problems and concerns.
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