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How do you feel about vr levels being replaced with cp?
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So we know this change is coming maybe sometime by the end of next year. I've read some polarising posts and just wanted to see what everyone thinks.
Edited by Vangy on December 1, 2015 6:34AM (2)V16 Dk- stam dps/stam tank/mag dps
(2)V16 Sorc- mag dps/stam dps
(2)V16 nb- stam dps/mag dps
(1)v16 temp- mag tank/mag dps
CP: 610 and counting
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(2)V16 Sorc- mag dps/stam dps
(2)V16 nb- stam dps/mag dps
(1)v16 temp- mag tank/mag dps
CP: 610 and counting
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How do you feel about vr levels being replaced with cp? 128 votes
Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!
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57 votes
Noo. I want progression. We shouldn't cater to people who want free handouts. Boo!
16%
21 votes
I don't know. I'm going to wait till changes happen to make a call.
28%
36 votes
Others ( includes options such as this poll is biased, I don't care and other off topic posts such as QQ nerf nbs/sorcs now)
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14 votes
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✭Others ( includes options such as this poll is biased, I don't care and other off topic posts such as QQ nerf nbs/sorcs now)Clearly a biased poll, the troll is strong in this one.....NA PC | AD
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✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!Yes to removal of the Veteran system
not because of not forced doing Cadwell again for my alts, although I welcome that
yes, simply because I have confidence in what ZOS has thought out
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Nyteshade✭✭✭Are they taking out silver and gold or leaving it in as optional? We'd still need access to those areas for shards and lorebooks etc.0
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Deceptive_Yoshi✭✭✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!I don't mind having to do it the first time around just because getting the full experience is mostly nice, but doing the AD quests suck immensely due to lack of variety and IMO the worst of all the factions quests.2 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't know. I'm going to wait till changes happen to make a call.Dunno, I never really hated Veteran ranks, especially after they got a bit of a speed boost. As for Cadwell's, I simply don't do it. I experienced it once and never again.
If there's maybe one thing I'm looking forward to, is I'm hoping there won't be such a huge gap in gear between VR16 and everything else.
No idea, we'll see. For the time being, I don't care too much.0 -
olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!I dont think we will be free of needing to do the cadwell silver if we want access to the entire game on that char. Wich is sad.
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Jitterbug✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!Are they taking out silver and gold or leaving it in as optional? We'd still need access to those areas for shards and lorebooks etc.
It will be optional. Which it should have been from the beginning. The keyword for ES games in my book is "options".2 -
Tors✭✭✭✭✭Where have they said they are removing Cadwells Silver/Gold?
All they are changing is the name and allowing your alts to wearthe same equipment level as your highest character.
Nothing is being "replaced"
Maybe your poll should ask "How do you feel about vr levels being renamed with cp?"Better late Than Pregnant....
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Jitterbug✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!Where have they said they are removing Cadwells Silver/Gold?
All they are changing is the name and allowing your alts to wearthe same equipment level as your highest character.
Nothing is being "replaced"
Maybe your poll should ask "How do you feel about vr levels being renamed with cp, and now only needs to be done once, and is a lot faster, a lot more transparent and easy to grasp?"
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Vangy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!Where have they said they are removing Cadwells Silver/Gold?
All they are changing is the name and allowing your alts to wearthe same equipment level as your highest character.
Nothing is being "replaced"
Maybe your poll should ask "How do you feel about vr levels being renamed with cp?"
Hmm I still feel it's a replacement and not a simple renaming. Gear wise you would be wearing end game gear if your cp is high enough and post 50 zones will all scale to lvl 50 which is remarkably different from how things are now. Just my opinion though.(2)V16 Dk- stam dps/stam tank/mag dps
(2)V16 Sorc- mag dps/stam dps
(2)V16 nb- stam dps/mag dps
(1)v16 temp- mag tank/mag dps
CP: 610 and counting
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terrordactyl1971✭✭✭✭I don't know. I'm going to wait till changes happen to make a call.Sitting on the fence until I actually play the game after the changes and can make a real decision about it0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!Are they really getting rid of Cadwell's Silver and Gold? If so, what is that going to actually mean? At level 50 will we be able to go to both other factions at will rather than having to complete the Main Story for one before we can go to the other?PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Others ( includes options such as this poll is biased, I don't care and other off topic posts such as QQ nerf nbs/sorcs now)I don't really care all that much one way or the other.
I won't change my playing just because the system changes a bit... I'll still do all of cadwells on every one of my characters, and orsinium, and whatever else i feel like doing. progression is important for that nice, warm "Ding - you got better" feeling, but I hardly care if it comes in veteran ranks or another champion point...
I suppose the only thing I might notice is that I can have my alts "inherit" the "last seasons endgame gear" my main characters are replacing with better stuff right away...0 -
Destyran✭✭✭✭✭I think they shouldnt do this at all the past two updates have hurt the game enough if they do this it will be ruined0 -
Jitterbug✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!MornaBaine wrote: »Are they really getting rid of Cadwell's Silver and Gold? If so, what is that going to actually mean? At level 50 will we be able to go to both other factions at will rather than having to complete the Main Story for one before we can go to the other?
That's my guess anyway, yes. The zones will open up, and since everything is level 50 you can go where you want. So the silver/gold concept bing mandatory is going away but the access to the zones remain the same.1 -
Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't know. I'm going to wait till changes happen to make a call.As long as we can still go to all the zones and play all the content on each character I don't really care what they call the numbers that come up along the way.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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Farorin✭✭✭✭✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!They can't remove vet ranks fast enough in my opinion, I hate them. They were okay back when there was only like 10 f them.0 -
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✭✭✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!Champion points mean casual play progression you log on quest hang with a friend and gain a cp you can hardcore cp grind but overall it lets us progress without feeling dredged down by long level grinds that feel boring and take the fun out you can gripe all ya want but vr ranks were like pulling teeth without novicaine very slowly. Oooor better analogy like running through a cave without repels fighting every zubat.... I've had more fun on endless loading screens than vr rank leveling.2 -
MornaBaine✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!MornaBaine wrote: »Are they really getting rid of Cadwell's Silver and Gold? If so, what is that going to actually mean? At level 50 will we be able to go to both other factions at will rather than having to complete the Main Story for one before we can go to the other?
That's my guess anyway, yes. The zones will open up, and since everything is level 50 you can go where you want. So the silver/gold concept bing mandatory is going away but the access to the zones remain the same.
If access to the zones remains the same then you still have to complete the Main Story quests before you can go to the next one. THAT is what I want to see them get rid of but I've seen nothing so far to indicate this will be the case. I was hoping for some sort of official word on this. I hate Silver so much! Don't make me do it ever again ZOS! /cry
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✭✭✭✭✭I think if they just remove VR levels from characters and NPC's that is good. This is what we've been expecting for over a year since announced.
What I don't think is good, is if they attempt to align and structure the game progress off CP's.
Champion Points are passive and do not force a selections that make any specific character stronger
Another HUGE issue with using CP's is that each character is different and so you'd end up causing characters to be unable to complete content if there are Alts
I like the removal of VR and I'd like them to leave the gear and mat progression but I don't want anything based on CP's.
Base it on the actual skills and if necessary, base it off the actual chosen % increases of magic, life and stamina that CP causes. But then it sperates ppl and forces selection so just leave CP out as it is today.-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think if they just remove VR levels from characters and NPC's that is good. This is what we've been expecting for over a year since announced.
Maybe even change silver and gold zones to function just like Orsinium...maybe
What I don't think is good, is if they attempt to align and structure the game progress off CP's.
Champion Points are passive and do not force a selections that make any specific character stronger
Another HUGE issue with using CP's is that each character is different and so you'd end up causing characters to be unable to complete content if there are Alts
I like the removal of VR and I'd like them to leave the gear and mat progression but I don't want anything based on CP's.
Base it on the actual skills and if necessary, base it off the actual chosen % increases of magic, life and stamina that CP causes. But then it sperates ppl and forces selection so just leave CP out as it is today.Edited by NewBlacksmurf on December 1, 2015 1:09PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Digerati✭✭✭✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!My only problem with vet ranks is the gear... It's pseudo end game so you kinda have to gear up really well... But you're also trying to get through them as fast as possible.. So, a level 30 is almost always more powerful than a vr12, because you can gear out a level 30 np.. gearing out a vr12 means dropping some significant resources...
There needs to be a flattening of vr gear... Maybe just two tiers.. "Good leveling vr gear" and "Max vr gear"
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bertenburnyb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Others ( includes options such as this poll is biased, I don't care and other off topic posts such as QQ nerf nbs/sorcs now)Replacing a bad system with a worse system .... No wordsHaze Ramoran Dunmer Dragonknight Tank/Dps – Smoked-Da-Herb Saxheel Templar Tank/Healer
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kupacmac✭✭✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I like the removal of VR and I'd like them to leave the gear and mat progression but I don't want anything based on CP's.
Base it on the actual skills and if necessary, base it off the actual chosen % increases of magic, life and stamina that CP causes. But then it sperates ppl and forces selection so just leave CP out as it is today.
The problem with not scaling content to CP is it becomes trivial. Right now content is scaled to your VR level and there's no challenge whatsoever for people with high CP. It's so boring doing the regular content right now. Literally 2 casts and a mob is dead. The fun factor is gone.0 -
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✭✭✭Noo. I want progression. We shouldn't cater to people who want free handouts. Boo!I don't know how many times i look at my crafting level 50 and wish they would go up another level.
I like the ideal of champion points and I like moving up in levels.
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✭✭✭✭✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!Are they taking out silver and gold or leaving it in as optional? We'd still need access to those areas for shards and lorebooks etc.Where have they said they are removing Cadwells Silver/Gold?I dont think we will be free of needing to do the cadwell silver if we want access to the entire game on that char. Wich is sad.
They are not removing any content. Cadwell's Silver and Gold will still exist. I believe they have however implied that some of the restrictions on access will be relaxed; I can't remember where I saw that though. I don't think it was here, so maybe it was on ESO Live, or in the Quakecon video, or on Reddit.MornaBaine wrote: »Are they really getting rid of Cadwell's Silver and Gold? If so, what is that going to actually mean? At level 50 will we be able to go to both other factions at will rather than having to complete the Main Story for one before we can go to the other?UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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MornaBaine✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yaay! I don't have to do cadwells silver/gold for the xth time again!Are they taking out silver and gold or leaving it in as optional? We'd still need access to those areas for shards and lorebooks etc.Where have they said they are removing Cadwells Silver/Gold?I dont think we will be free of needing to do the cadwell silver if we want access to the entire game on that char. Wich is sad.
They are not removing any content. Cadwell's Silver and Gold will still exist. I believe they have however implied that some of the restrictions on access will be relaxed; I can't remember where I saw that though. I don't think it was here, so maybe it was on ESO Live, or in the Quakecon video, or on Reddit.MornaBaine wrote: »Are they really getting rid of Cadwell's Silver and Gold? If so, what is that going to actually mean? At level 50 will we be able to go to both other factions at will rather than having to complete the Main Story for one before we can go to the other?
With VR ranks removed there is absolutely no valid reason for us to be forced to do one faction's zones before the other. None! We should be able to explore them both concurrently.PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!0
