Zero.

I bought the Black Fredas pack... I could not resist it's gold quality 10 x horse speed tranings was what hooked me... I always forget to do my horse training. The tri-pots & tri-foods where pretty disappointing.. the pots & food that my crafter makes are heaps better in the numbers. I'll save the XP scrolls for when my lower level toons hit VR to try & mitigate the grind.

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

Why are some motifs 5000 crowns? That is more than the cost of IC and Orsinium, how does that work?

The market will bear redonkulous prices for fluff but charge any more than 30$ for new content and people will grab their forum pitchforks...

Patouf wrote: »

I didnt buy because im poor.

Same. I would have, but even buying the Wrothgar dlc was a stretch for me, but I really wanted it. So I saved up.

Tyr wrote: »

Iluvrien wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

Why are some motifs 5000 crowns? That is more than the cost of IC and Orsinium, how does that work?

Because they didn't want to kill crafting. Just mortally wound it.

I don't know that that's entirely a fair assessment. As of right now it's still relatively difficult to come by a crafter that can do specific unique crafts. For example, There was this guy looking for Xivkyn Nirnhoned dagger for days in Zone before he settled for Daedric.

The issue with so called "master crafters" is that there aren't better 9 trait sets out there.
In other words, if they make the best crafting sets require 9+ traits then the actual demand and profitability of having the rare styles will improve. as it stands now, it's too easy to craft everything for yourself because there is no significant initial time sink to be the best crafter.

The Rare crafting styles from previous DLC's like Xivkyn and Glass are still relatively rare, and that's a good thing for those willing to invest the time or money into acquiring them.

It really is a fair assessment. The guy you saw "settled" for a rare motif?

The issue conflates two separate decisions, putting motifs in the Crown Store, and the chapter-split-double-RNG acquisition model.

Since ZOS has already decided to devalue crafters by placing the old rare motifs into the Crown Store, there is no way that they are not going to choose to continue this course with something they could monetize even further. People don't like grinds much, especially for items that they consider to be "purely cosmetic" (they are wrong in this view, but that has been dealt with before) so they are more than likely, again, to fork out real cash for it.

So why 5000 crowns? Why not 1500 like the other "rares"? I believe the reasons are 3-fold:

1) The comparative novelty of the styles.

2) The illusion of added value. By tying some motifs to double-RNG or to a specific play style ZOS has made gaining these motifs an extra hassle. They offer players an unpleasant choice (change play style) or process (grind) that they have contrived and then charge them money when people want to side-step it.

3) They want to be able to say, if not actually act as if, they still value crafters and crafting.


That's why this is so expensive. It is also why my original assessment is fair. If they wanted healthy crafting the crafting motifs and crafting materials should never have been added to the Crown Store. They were.

I bought the black fredas pack and 1 pack of 3000 crowns. I'm subbed at the moment while leveling up so thats more than enough crowns for me. Don't really see anything on the store I need.

Two packs of 5500. One pack I spent already on Orsinium and Imperial City, the other I will save for next year's DLC.

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

None. It was a terrible deal to spend any more real money on this game that still has game breaking bugs that have been there since launch.

When the clown store sells a potion of reduce Lag, I will buy it. Until then, I don't need a cosmetic re-skin of a mount when we were originally told that we were going to have all sort of different creatures as mounts and that each would have different abilities.

first thing you will do when you see this pot is QQ