Artemis wrote: »

Do they work on top of battle leveling or with the base stats? In the latter case, battle leveling simply removes the effect of most of CP, no?

I created a nightblade a few weeks ago to play with my new player friends. I was seeing crits at up to 15k+ while grinding with my friends in cyrodiil while they were unable to break 10k. We were the same level wearing the exact same gear (crafted to match). CP definitely takes effect in BwB.

I don't think we'll see any difference in this poll than we saw in previous polls...

CP in BwB is stupid. I brought in 7 new players. 3 still play. My friends all left because of the retardedness of CP in BwB.

This poll isn't to prove a point but rather continue the steady drumbeat of demands to remove CP from BwB.

It needs to be a priority.

Right now, BwB isn't a playground for new players. It's a place where new players are shuffled into to be completely demolished by high CP twinks.

ZOS has taken disappointing design decisions throughout the production of ESO... This one is the one that's bothered me the most.
Addendum: I would feel better about their bad design decisions if it were simply a disagreement. In this case, and most others, ZOS knows fully the way things ought to be. Laziness, shortsightedness, or incompetence is what drives these decisions. ZOS, I implore you, the developers, to do things right. Put your foot down to deadlines, insist on doing things the right way, and when the deadlines only allow for lazy or half - baked implementation, miss that damned deadline. Your game could be around forever, it's time to start acting like it.

No, but complaining about them does.

@Alucardo care to show that image of that NB move to show what CPs can do?

Snowgoons wrote: »

Veteran rank related stuff should not be in non veteran campaigns it makes absolutely no sense.. Really is a no brainer no idea what ZOS was thinking. Id go as far as linking the champion points to the character that earned them but since everyone wants easy mode everything these days can't do that....

This is how that topic went down at a ZOS meeting:

ZOS 1: Hey guys um... Just took half a second to think about this....Let's let people come into a non veteran campaign and make their characters overpowered with champion points!

ZOS 2: Sounds like a balanced good suggestion.

ZOS 3: WELL THEN ITS SETTLED!

Yeah because people are totally wanting to avoid that rather simple grind to 500 CP per character. Theyre just lazy. /s

ban CP from BwB so we at least have one campaign that's not ruined by CP.

I think they need to go. I'd rather the game be balanced with everyone on equal footing and leave it up to skill. Remove all doubt. CP is the extra block/dodge roll/slight damage ect that can make a difference between living and dying. Now if only they will do something about gear...

Alucardo wrote: »

AFrostWolf wrote: »

Now if only they will do something about gear...

What's the problem with gear? Unlike vet campaigns we don't have that huge gap between normal stuff and VR16 stuff. Everybody has the opportunity of obtaining the exact same gear on BwB.
If you can't craft it, get somebody to craft it for you.

new players vs older.
this is an area where the newer community could learn more about pvp and how to play it.
by adding cp here there will be even a bigger gap here then in the vet campains

we see 1 nb running towards us with bunch of healers behind him.

we get 1shotted

rip

Sausage wrote: »

You just need to grind some CPs, not that is hard grind, we dont have enough population to create multiple Campaigns with different CP-requirements. Btw, we suggested pure cosmetic endgame progression for Zen at PC launch but they wanted to go with VRs, CPs and gear advantages. This is exactly the reason why I think CP-progression should be always short-term.

Maybe if they transformed Cyrodil into stand-alone F2P game, we could have enough players to create campaigns with different CP-requirements, but currently its way too risky, PS4 EU we have one good Campaign and when it dies, its all over.

i think this wouldn't be a bad idia.
the problem will arise when the servers are to empty but they can star with like a three layer campain somthing like 0-150 campain 151-300 and a 301+ campain. I'm just trowing numbers ofc ZOS has way more data to tweek these servers to make decent size servers

In PVE, it does not matter. A new player is not trying to get thru content for the fifth time. So, the CP on a low level is fine for an experienced player. Tho, frankly, an experienced player SHOULD not NEED them, as he already knows how to play and what will happen.

In PVP.. those CP give a veteran an OVERWHELMING advantage vs someone who cant even earn CP.

mtwiggz wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

mtwiggz wrote: »

Well that is very misleading.

That was the point. Though being an honest person I couldn't continue with the charades any longer

Realistically anyone that has spent any decent amount of time in PvP would know that wasn't realistic, especially in BwB. Was a good attempted troll though. I'm sure many players saw it, or will see it, and automatically call for NB nerfs.

and they don't do this already?