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The adjudicator is broken
jojoex21
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PS4... Since the orsinium download the first boss and white gold tower is extremely difficult . You take damage immediately when you are put into the cage of torment. If you have somebody try and pick the lock to let you out they take damage from the outside just attempting to pick the lock . also she is no longer teleporting the farthest person away it seems completely random . We have tried moving the group around to see if she takes a certain position and where you were standing in relative closeness to her and she just takes whoever she wants .
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DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What? You are supposed to pick the lock yourself. Not get someone else to.PC Master Race
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jojoex21✭I understand that but if I am healing and I get put in there and I am taking damage is soon as I am put in the cage I need to heal myself through the damage while somebody else picks the lock0
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jojoex21✭I have even tried putting down channeled focus put on harness Magica and healing Ward to pick it myself butthe fire damage is so great it wears off by the time I even get to second Pinion of the lock pick0
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Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I understand that but if I am healing and I get put in there and I am taking damage is soon as I am put in the cage I need to heal myself through the damage while somebody else picks the lock
It has always been this way. "You have been sentenced to eternal torment". You are supposed to take damage in the cage. The key is to pick the lock before you die. Now, you should have plenty of time to pick the lock.Edited by Nestor on November 20, 2015 3:32PMEnjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I have even tried putting down channeled focus put on harness Magica and healing Ward to pick it myself butthe fire damage is so great it wears off by the time I even get to second Pinion of the lock pick
One word, legerdemain.
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jojoex21✭Before the update you had 10 seconds to pick the lock before you started taking damage ..0
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jojoex21✭We run white gold tower 2 to 5 times a day and this was never an issue until the update .without maxed out Ledgerman which very few people have it is impossible to pick a lock in three seconds0
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daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sorry to say that is EXACTLY how the fight is supposed to be.
Regarding the cages, work on your force lock passive from the Legerdemain skill line. 9 times out of 10 you're out of the cage in less than a second. If someone in the group has it and others don't, he/she can force the lock from outside.
As for who gets sent in the cage, it was far too easy to game the system and get the same person in the cage every time, it makes sense to have it happen randomly. This way you might have to make do without a tank or a DD for a bit (healer can still heal from inside cage so it's really no biggie).0 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have been in that cage about 20 times (we did this the week before Orsinium Dropped as a Vet Level Pledge, if that makes any difference) I started taking damage right away, but I could always pick the lock before I died. Perhaps on normal there is/was a window of time that you did not take damage.
Now, if something has changed to where you don't have time to pick the lock, that is something. Ironically, they were supposed to nerf the Vet Instance of this dungeon as it was pretty much impossible to do. We wiped about a dozen times on the Adjudictor and just gave up. I have never tried this on normal.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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jojoex21✭You are supposed to have 10 seconds to pick the lock before you take damage . I just checked several different guides to see if I was doing mechanics wrong and everything says you have 10 seconds to pick the lock before you take damage .0
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jojoex21✭If I have 3400 spell damage and I put down channeled focus harness Magica and healing Ward on.. I should have more than enough time to pick the lock however that is not the case . Even with perfect lock picking I am dead by the time I touch the third Pinion... It was never like that . Changing who gets put in the cage to random instead of the farthest person is fine I can get behind that but taking damage instantly in the amount of damage that you take makes it very hard0
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jojoex21✭Not everybody has their Ledgerman maxed out..and I don't feel like going to the roost to kill sheep to go up 2 levels a day for the next two weeks to be able to force a lock In one dungeon..0
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✭Picking locks doesn't require any ledgermain. It just requires you do it. Just breathe and do each one, don't even let your eyes focus on the timer. You'll do fine.0 -
jojoex21✭Believe me we tried about 30 times last night .. If anybody but the healer goes in the cage it's fine because I can heal through it but when I go in as the healer and nobody has off healsit's hard somebody has to come let the healer outwell the healer heels them through it because they are taking damage just picking the lock then the whole group needs to move the fight closest to that cage because nobody else in the group can get heals.0
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daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not everybody has their Ledgerman maxed out..and I don't feel like going to the roost to kill sheep to go up 2 levels a day for the next two weeks to be able to force a lock In one dungeon..
It's one of the two hardest dungeons in the game. It's A Good Thing that it requires something extra. In any case, as I said earlier, it doesn't have to be the person in the cage to pick the lock. If healer is caged, keep spamming that BoL while another party member opens the cage from outside. If healer ISN'T caged, damage shouldn't be an issue since it can easily be healed through.0 -
daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You are supposed to have 10 seconds to pick the lock before you take damage . I just checked several different guides to see if I was doing mechanics wrong and everything says you have 10 seconds to pick the lock before you take damage .
Those guides are NOT official and are out of date.1 -
jojoex21✭Adapte and adjust I guess.. Just like every time they update something. Time to power level Ledgerman0
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✭Believe me we tried about 30 times last night .. If anybody but the healer goes in the cage it's fine because I can heal through it but when I go in as the healer and nobody has off healsit's hard somebody has to come let the healer outwell the healer heels them through it because they are taking damage just picking the lock then the whole group needs to move the fight closest to that cage because nobody else in the group can get heals.
I ran with a group where everyone except me kept dying from being in the cage. I don't know why, but I never seem to have an issue picking the locks before I'm dead.
I do sympathize though, and I hope you manage to get through it at some point.0 -
jojoex21✭I use it with healing Ward it's still not enough..Edited by jojoex21 on November 20, 2015 5:25PM0
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DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What level is your ledgermain? Surely it's around 8 by now? That'll get you to 40% on lock picks??Just stock up and spam it out on force lock. The tank should be able to taunt and take the flak from the boss for 10s on his own surely.PC Master Race
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usmcjdking✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The tank should be providing off heals. If your tank can't off heal, ask what he is tanking because the Adjudicator couldn't punch itself out of a wet paper bag.0331
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zornyan✭✭✭✭✭usmcjdking wrote: »The tank should be providing off heals. If your tank can't off heal, ask what he is tanking because the Adjudicator couldn't punch itself out of a wet paper bag.
How could say, a stam tank provide off heals ? Without vigor a skill line locked behind pvp?1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭usmcjdking wrote: »The tank should be providing off heals. If your tank can't off heal, ask what he is tanking because the Adjudicator couldn't punch itself out of a wet paper bag.
I've dps'd, tanked and healed vWGT and in no occasion was the tank doing off-heals. Sure that could be a thing, but on the one hand there really is no need, and on the other hand I'd rather the tank have good cc and some damage.0 -
Ariisen✭✭✭I'm running the dungeon to drop the sets (starting to think they didn't increase the droprate lol) and yes, the mechanics changed.
Now as soon as you are into the cage the dot starts ticking.
To avoid dying you should name the cages and as soon as the healer is in the DPSes go closer to the cage and one opens the lock while the other one AOEs zombies. You continue healing trough the process.
Also, the person who gets into the cage now it's random I think.
Something changed at least, before Orsinium it was the furthest person with no aggro or something like this, now it's random? IDK but the tank is getting imprisoned, before the update it didn't happen.
Today our tank got caged twice in a row lol, not fun to kite the adjudicator around pillars as a NB with 17k health..Edited by Ariisen on November 20, 2015 8:26PM[XBOX ONE - Daggerfall Covenant - EU - CP 600+]
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