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Need help with DK PvP setup please

The_1st_Dovahkiin
Hi Everyone!

Okay, so I am pretty much a noob with PvP, maybe like 40 hours total in it since I have had the game. I'm struggling, bad......lol. I just cant get a good build down to use when I'm in Cyrodiil. My build currently is;

Level: Vet 3
Class: DK
Race: Nord
Attribute Points: All Stamina
Armor: All Heavy
Bars: 1H and Shield/2H

My biggest problem currently is sustaining resources. I see other DKs that last forever in battles 1v1 or 1vX, and I just don't know how they do it. Granted, I don't think I have ever once had a true 1v1 with someone, its always 1vX with a minimum of 3 NBs spamming Mass Hysteria. Between the constant CC's and trying to mitigate the damage, my stamina just disappears. At that point I am spamming all of my shields and Dragons Blood to keep from dying until my stamina restores, but all that does is finish off my magicka and give me a few more seconds before I die. On top of all that, it seems like I am barely pushing out any DPS whatsoever when I actually have my resources available. So not only do I die quick, I cant even put out any damage lol.

I feel like it is just my inexperience causing my inevitable failure in PvP, because I see DKs all the time doing very well in combat. I was hoping to get some advice on a good build from an experienced PvPer for my DK, since all the builds I find online (deltia, sypher, etc) are all end game which I am not at yet. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you very much :)
  • americansteel
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    Hi Everyone!

    Okay, so I am pretty much a noob with PvP, maybe like 40 hours total in it since I have had the game. I'm struggling, bad......lol. I just cant get a good build down to use when I'm in Cyrodiil. My build currently is;

    Level: Vet 3
    Class: DK
    Race: Nord
    Attribute Points: All Stamina
    Armor: All Heavy
    Bars: 1H and Shield/2H

    My biggest problem currently is sustaining resources. I see other DKs that last forever in battles 1v1 or 1vX, and I just don't know how they do it. Granted, I don't think I have ever once had a true 1v1 with someone, its always 1vX with a minimum of 3 NBs spamming Mass Hysteria. Between the constant CC's and trying to mitigate the damage, my stamina just disappears. At that point I am spamming all of my shields and Dragons Blood to keep from dying until my stamina restores, but all that does is finish off my magicka and give me a few more seconds before I die. On top of all that, it seems like I am barely pushing out any DPS whatsoever when I actually have my resources available. So not only do I die quick, I cant even put out any damage lol.

    I feel like it is just my inexperience causing my inevitable failure in PvP, because I see DKs all the time doing very well in combat. I was hoping to get some advice on a good build from an experienced PvPer for my DK, since all the builds I find online (deltia, sypher, etc) are all end game which I am not at yet. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you very much :)

    videos you see of 1v1s are mostly V16 DKs with ALOT of Champion points.
    I run a 2H nord all heavy hundings rage 3 night silence CP 157, CRIT STRIKE WRECKING BLOW STONE GIANT IGNEOUS SHIELD and that weak flame lash.
    Healing staff DRAGON BLOOD SIPHON REFLECTIVE SCALES HEALING WARD,
    I avoid 1v1s on console due to a huge amount of AD pc transfers and problems my DK has that my TEMP doesnt.
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  • Artemisshrikes
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    Hi Everyone!

    Okay, so I am pretty much a noob with PvP, maybe like 40 hours total in it since I have had the game. I'm struggling, bad......lol. I just cant get a good build down to use when I'm in Cyrodiil. My build currently is;

    Level: Vet 3
    Class: DK
    Race: Nord
    Attribute Points: All Stamina
    Armor: All Heavy
    Bars: 1H and Shield/2H

    My biggest problem currently is sustaining resources. I see other DKs that last forever in battles 1v1 or 1vX, and I just don't know how they do it. Granted, I don't think I have ever once had a true 1v1 with someone, its always 1vX with a minimum of 3 NBs spamming Mass Hysteria. Between the constant CC's and trying to mitigate the damage, my stamina just disappears. At that point I am spamming all of my shields and Dragons Blood to keep from dying until my stamina restores, but all that does is finish off my magicka and give me a few more seconds before I die. On top of all that, it seems like I am barely pushing out any DPS whatsoever when I actually have my resources available. So not only do I die quick, I cant even put out any damage lol.

    I feel like it is just my inexperience causing my inevitable failure in PvP, because I see DKs all the time doing very well in combat. I was hoping to get some advice on a good build from an experienced PvPer for my DK, since all the builds I find online (deltia, sypher, etc) are all end game which I am not at yet. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you very much :)

    videos you see of 1v1s are mostly V16 DKs with ALOT of Champion points.
    I run a 2H nord all heavy hundings rage 3 night silence CP 157, CRIT STRIKE WRECKING BLOW STONE GIANT IGNEOUS SHIELD and that weak flame lash.
    Healing staff DRAGON BLOOD SIPHON REFLECTIVE SCALES HEALING WARD,
    I avoid 1v1s on console due to a huge amount of AD pc transfers and problems my DK has that my TEMP doesnt.

    nice
    VR 16 Dragonknight Sarenvog (AD, Former Emperor)
  • The_1st_Dovahkiin
    Hi Everyone!

    Okay, so I am pretty much a noob with PvP, maybe like 40 hours total in it since I have had the game. I'm struggling, bad......lol. I just cant get a good build down to use when I'm in Cyrodiil. My build currently is;

    Level: Vet 3
    Class: DK
    Race: Nord
    Attribute Points: All Stamina
    Armor: All Heavy
    Bars: 1H and Shield/2H

    My biggest problem currently is sustaining resources. I see other DKs that last forever in battles 1v1 or 1vX, and I just don't know how they do it. Granted, I don't think I have ever once had a true 1v1 with someone, its always 1vX with a minimum of 3 NBs spamming Mass Hysteria. Between the constant CC's and trying to mitigate the damage, my stamina just disappears. At that point I am spamming all of my shields and Dragons Blood to keep from dying until my stamina restores, but all that does is finish off my magicka and give me a few more seconds before I die. On top of all that, it seems like I am barely pushing out any DPS whatsoever when I actually have my resources available. So not only do I die quick, I cant even put out any damage lol.

    I feel like it is just my inexperience causing my inevitable failure in PvP, because I see DKs all the time doing very well in combat. I was hoping to get some advice on a good build from an experienced PvPer for my DK, since all the builds I find online (deltia, sypher, etc) are all end game which I am not at yet. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you very much :)

    videos you see of 1v1s are mostly V16 DKs with ALOT of Champion points.
    I run a 2H nord all heavy hundings rage 3 night silence CP 157, CRIT STRIKE WRECKING BLOW STONE GIANT IGNEOUS SHIELD and that weak flame lash.
    Healing staff DRAGON BLOOD SIPHON REFLECTIVE SCALES HEALING WARD,
    I avoid 1v1s on console due to a huge amount of AD pc transfers and problems my DK has that my TEMP doesnt.

    Thanks for the tips man! Think I might try some of these skills out, are you running mag or stam?
  • Ishammael
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    Get to v16, craft gear, practice, then come back. You're totally gimped at v3
  • Draxys
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    Leo Cor has an excellent build that has similarities to what you seem to want to use, check it out

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/230935/vir-cors-dragonknight-pvp-tank-build-video
    2013

    rip decibel
  • Aunatar
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Get to v16, craft gear, practice, then come back. You're totally gimped at v3

    Not true!
    Battle level actually makes you as strong as a v15, depending on the quality of your gear.
    @Aunatar
    V16 Sorcerer - Aunatar
    V16 DK - Aunatarans (Currently main)
    V16 DK - Aunatar Evereth
    V16 DK - Aunataran
    V16 NB - Aunatars
    V4 Templar - Lysindel
    Lvl 30 NB - Vile Aunataroni De Pipino
    Free spot, looking for suggestions
  • Saint314Louis1985
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    If youre looking for more dps, try using 5medium and 2 heavy armor. Volatile armor or hardened armor will boost your armor up quite a bit. Im not sure what skills you use or have available,but definitely use Rally over GDB as your main heal. Plus rally increases your weapon dmg by 20%. And using igneous shield and rally together dramatically boosts your heals. You could even use coagulating blood with rally for a slightly smaller boost if you dont like igneous shield.

    If its a 1v2 or 1v3 use fossilize or talons to cc them which overall reduces your incoming damage and drains their resources.

    I dont really know how the battle leveling really works, but with that said, Id say dont be afraid to put up to a few +health glyphs on your armor. In my eyes its better to be a somewhat "tanky" stam dk than a glass cannon. DKs werent meant to be glass cannons. But at the same time, if you are overly tanky, you wont have the DPS like u stated in your main post. Find a good mix that works for you.

    EDIT:

    Also, dont get discouraged if youre not performing like you see in the youtube vids. Alot of those 1vX vids are special circumstances like fighting inexperienced pvp players. I can do the occasional 1v3 but for the most part they end up just like you stated in your post, but put me in a 1v1 and I win 95% of the time. Stam DKs are generally not going to perform solo like the shield stacking sorcs or invisible NBs due to a number of things. Doesnt mean not to strive for greatness though!
    Edited by Saint314Louis1985 on November 19, 2015 2:00PM
  • AverageJo3Gam3r
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    The secret is your battle roar passive. Save your ultimate until you get low on resources, then use it. It'll restore most your resources.
  • Scyantific
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    Reroll to nightblade. Enjoy your ez mode wins
  • The_1st_Dovahkiin
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Get to v16, craft gear, practice, then come back. You're totally gimped at v3

    Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing lol
  • The_1st_Dovahkiin
    Draxys wrote: »
    Leo Cor has an excellent build that has similarities to what you seem to want to use, check it out

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/230935/vir-cors-dragonknight-pvp-tank-build-video

    Awesome, thanks a ton man! I'll be sure to try this out :)
  • The_1st_Dovahkiin
    If youre looking for more dps, try using 5medium and 2 heavy armor. Volatile armor or hardened armor will boost your armor up quite a bit. Im not sure what skills you use or have available,but definitely use Rally over GDB as your main heal. Plus rally increases your weapon dmg by 20%. And using igneous shield and rally together dramatically boosts your heals. You could even use coagulating blood with rally for a slightly smaller boost if you dont like igneous shield.

    If its a 1v2 or 1v3 use fossilize or talons to cc them which overall reduces your incoming damage and drains their resources.

    I dont really know how the battle leveling really works, but with that said, Id say dont be afraid to put up to a few +health glyphs on your armor. In my eyes its better to be a somewhat "tanky" stam dk than a glass cannon. DKs werent meant to be glass cannons. But at the same time, if you are overly tanky, you wont have the DPS like u stated in your main post. Find a good mix that works for you.

    EDIT:

    Also, dont get discouraged if youre not performing like you see in the youtube vids. Alot of those 1vX vids are special circumstances like fighting inexperienced pvp players. I can do the occasional 1v3 but for the most part they end up just like you stated in your post, but put me in a 1v1 and I win 95% of the time. Stam DKs are generally not going to perform solo like the shield stacking sorcs or invisible NBs due to a number of things. Doesnt mean not to strive for greatness though!

    Thanks a ton for the tips man! :) Didn't even think about using Rally over GDB, that will save me a slot on my bar and give me more dps! Thanks again man!
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