Need help with DK PvP setup please

The_1st_Dovahkiin

Hi Everyone!

Okay, so I am pretty much a noob with PvP, maybe like 40 hours total in it since I have had the game. I'm struggling, bad......lol. I just cant get a good build down to use when I'm in Cyrodiil. My build currently is;

Level: Vet 3
Class: DK
Race: Nord
Attribute Points: All Stamina
Armor: All Heavy
Bars: 1H and Shield/2H

My biggest problem currently is sustaining resources. I see other DKs that last forever in battles 1v1 or 1vX, and I just don't know how they do it. Granted, I don't think I have ever once had a true 1v1 with someone, its always 1vX with a minimum of 3 NBs spamming Mass Hysteria. Between the constant CC's and trying to mitigate the damage, my stamina just disappears. At that point I am spamming all of my shields and Dragons Blood to keep from dying until my stamina restores, but all that does is finish off my magicka and give me a few more seconds before I die. On top of all that, it seems like I am barely pushing out any DPS whatsoever when I actually have my resources available. So not only do I die quick, I cant even put out any damage lol.

I feel like it is just my inexperience causing my inevitable failure in PvP, because I see DKs all the time doing very well in combat. I was hoping to get some advice on a good build from an experienced PvPer for my DK, since all the builds I find online (deltia, sypher, etc) are all end game which I am not at yet. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you very much

americansteel

The_1st_Dovahkiin wrote: »

Hi Everyone!

Okay, so I am pretty much a noob with PvP, maybe like 40 hours total in it since I have had the game. I'm struggling, bad......lol. I just cant get a good build down to use when I'm in Cyrodiil. My build currently is;

Level: Vet 3
Class: DK
Race: Nord
Attribute Points: All Stamina
Armor: All Heavy
Bars: 1H and Shield/2H

My biggest problem currently is sustaining resources. I see other DKs that last forever in battles 1v1 or 1vX, and I just don't know how they do it. Granted, I don't think I have ever once had a true 1v1 with someone, its always 1vX with a minimum of 3 NBs spamming Mass Hysteria. Between the constant CC's and trying to mitigate the damage, my stamina just disappears. At that point I am spamming all of my shields and Dragons Blood to keep from dying until my stamina restores, but all that does is finish off my magicka and give me a few more seconds before I die. On top of all that, it seems like I am barely pushing out any DPS whatsoever when I actually have my resources available. So not only do I die quick, I cant even put out any damage lol.

I feel like it is just my inexperience causing my inevitable failure in PvP, because I see DKs all the time doing very well in combat. I was hoping to get some advice on a good build from an experienced PvPer for my DK, since all the builds I find online (deltia, sypher, etc) are all end game which I am not at yet. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you very much

videos you see of 1v1s are mostly V16 DKs with ALOT of Champion points.
I run a 2H nord all heavy hundings rage 3 night silence CP 157, CRIT STRIKE WRECKING BLOW STONE GIANT IGNEOUS SHIELD and that weak flame lash.
Healing staff DRAGON BLOOD SIPHON REFLECTIVE SCALES HEALING WARD,
I avoid 1v1s on console due to a huge amount of AD pc transfers and problems my DK has that my TEMP doesnt.

Artemisshrikes

americansteel wrote: »

The_1st_Dovahkiin wrote: »

Hi Everyone!

Okay, so I am pretty much a noob with PvP, maybe like 40 hours total in it since I have had the game. I'm struggling, bad......lol. I just cant get a good build down to use when I'm in Cyrodiil. My build currently is;

Level: Vet 3
Class: DK
Race: Nord
Attribute Points: All Stamina
Armor: All Heavy
Bars: 1H and Shield/2H

My biggest problem currently is sustaining resources. I see other DKs that last forever in battles 1v1 or 1vX, and I just don't know how they do it. Granted, I don't think I have ever once had a true 1v1 with someone, its always 1vX with a minimum of 3 NBs spamming Mass Hysteria. Between the constant CC's and trying to mitigate the damage, my stamina just disappears. At that point I am spamming all of my shields and Dragons Blood to keep from dying until my stamina restores, but all that does is finish off my magicka and give me a few more seconds before I die. On top of all that, it seems like I am barely pushing out any DPS whatsoever when I actually have my resources available. So not only do I die quick, I cant even put out any damage lol.

I feel like it is just my inexperience causing my inevitable failure in PvP, because I see DKs all the time doing very well in combat. I was hoping to get some advice on a good build from an experienced PvPer for my DK, since all the builds I find online (deltia, sypher, etc) are all end game which I am not at yet. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you very much

videos you see of 1v1s are mostly V16 DKs with ALOT of Champion points.
I run a 2H nord all heavy hundings rage 3 night silence CP 157, CRIT STRIKE WRECKING BLOW STONE GIANT IGNEOUS SHIELD and that weak flame lash.
Healing staff DRAGON BLOOD SIPHON REFLECTIVE SCALES HEALING WARD,
I avoid 1v1s on console due to a huge amount of AD pc transfers and problems my DK has that my TEMP doesnt.

nice

The_1st_Dovahkiin

americansteel wrote: »

The_1st_Dovahkiin wrote: »

Hi Everyone!

Okay, so I am pretty much a noob with PvP, maybe like 40 hours total in it since I have had the game. I'm struggling, bad......lol. I just cant get a good build down to use when I'm in Cyrodiil. My build currently is;

Level: Vet 3
Class: DK
Race: Nord
Attribute Points: All Stamina
Armor: All Heavy
Bars: 1H and Shield/2H

My biggest problem currently is sustaining resources. I see other DKs that last forever in battles 1v1 or 1vX, and I just don't know how they do it. Granted, I don't think I have ever once had a true 1v1 with someone, its always 1vX with a minimum of 3 NBs spamming Mass Hysteria. Between the constant CC's and trying to mitigate the damage, my stamina just disappears. At that point I am spamming all of my shields and Dragons Blood to keep from dying until my stamina restores, but all that does is finish off my magicka and give me a few more seconds before I die. On top of all that, it seems like I am barely pushing out any DPS whatsoever when I actually have my resources available. So not only do I die quick, I cant even put out any damage lol.

I feel like it is just my inexperience causing my inevitable failure in PvP, because I see DKs all the time doing very well in combat. I was hoping to get some advice on a good build from an experienced PvPer for my DK, since all the builds I find online (deltia, sypher, etc) are all end game which I am not at yet. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you very much

videos you see of 1v1s are mostly V16 DKs with ALOT of Champion points.
I run a 2H nord all heavy hundings rage 3 night silence CP 157, CRIT STRIKE WRECKING BLOW STONE GIANT IGNEOUS SHIELD and that weak flame lash.
Healing staff DRAGON BLOOD SIPHON REFLECTIVE SCALES HEALING WARD,
I avoid 1v1s on console due to a huge amount of AD pc transfers and problems my DK has that my TEMP doesnt.

Thanks for the tips man! Think I might try some of these skills out, are you running mag or stam?

Ishammael

Get to v16, craft gear, practice, then come back. You're totally gimped at v3

Draxys

Leo Cor has an excellent build that has similarities to what you seem to want to use, check it out

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/230935/vir-cors-dragonknight-pvp-tank-build-video

Aunatar

Ishammael wrote: »

Get to v16, craft gear, practice, then come back. You're totally gimped at v3

Not true!
Battle level actually makes you as strong as a v15, depending on the quality of your gear.

Saint314Louis1985

If youre looking for more dps, try using 5medium and 2 heavy armor. Volatile armor or hardened armor will boost your armor up quite a bit. Im not sure what skills you use or have available,but definitely use Rally over GDB as your main heal. Plus rally increases your weapon dmg by 20%. And using igneous shield and rally together dramatically boosts your heals. You could even use coagulating blood with rally for a slightly smaller boost if you dont like igneous shield.

If its a 1v2 or 1v3 use fossilize or talons to cc them which overall reduces your incoming damage and drains their resources.

I dont really know how the battle leveling really works, but with that said, Id say dont be afraid to put up to a few +health glyphs on your armor. In my eyes its better to be a somewhat "tanky" stam dk than a glass cannon. DKs werent meant to be glass cannons. But at the same time, if you are overly tanky, you wont have the DPS like u stated in your main post. Find a good mix that works for you.

EDIT:

Also, dont get discouraged if youre not performing like you see in the youtube vids. Alot of those 1vX vids are special circumstances like fighting inexperienced pvp players. I can do the occasional 1v3 but for the most part they end up just like you stated in your post, but put me in a 1v1 and I win 95% of the time. Stam DKs are generally not going to perform solo like the shield stacking sorcs or invisible NBs due to a number of things. Doesnt mean not to strive for greatness though!

AverageJo3Gam3r

The secret is your battle roar passive. Save your ultimate until you get low on resources, then use it. It'll restore most your resources.

Scyantific

Reroll to nightblade. Enjoy your ez mode wins

The_1st_Dovahkiin

Ishammael wrote: »

Get to v16, craft gear, practice, then come back. You're totally gimped at v3

Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing lol

The_1st_Dovahkiin

Draxys wrote: »

Leo Cor has an excellent build that has similarities to what you seem to want to use, check it out

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/230935/vir-cors-dragonknight-pvp-tank-build-video

Awesome, thanks a ton man! I'll be sure to try this out

The_1st_Dovahkiin

Saint314Louis1985 wrote: »

If youre looking for more dps, try using 5medium and 2 heavy armor. Volatile armor or hardened armor will boost your armor up quite a bit. Im not sure what skills you use or have available,but definitely use Rally over GDB as your main heal. Plus rally increases your weapon dmg by 20%. And using igneous shield and rally together dramatically boosts your heals. You could even use coagulating blood with rally for a slightly smaller boost if you dont like igneous shield.

If its a 1v2 or 1v3 use fossilize or talons to cc them which overall reduces your incoming damage and drains their resources.

I dont really know how the battle leveling really works, but with that said, Id say dont be afraid to put up to a few +health glyphs on your armor. In my eyes its better to be a somewhat "tanky" stam dk than a glass cannon. DKs werent meant to be glass cannons. But at the same time, if you are overly tanky, you wont have the DPS like u stated in your main post. Find a good mix that works for you.

EDIT:

Also, dont get discouraged if youre not performing like you see in the youtube vids. Alot of those 1vX vids are special circumstances like fighting inexperienced pvp players. I can do the occasional 1v3 but for the most part they end up just like you stated in your post, but put me in a 1v1 and I win 95% of the time. Stam DKs are generally not going to perform solo like the shield stacking sorcs or invisible NBs due to a number of things. Doesnt mean not to strive for greatness though!

Thanks a ton for the tips man! Didn't even think about using Rally over GDB, that will save me a slot on my bar and give me more dps! Thanks again man!