Anyone else think the game is getting better?

sadownik · November 2015

lathbury wrote: »

Ok then back to topic while I appreciate the views expressed and peoples thoughts it seems some of you are of the opinion Im just happy cause I can haz bear mounts and cloak works. Which may be true I may have rose tinted glasses on.
So to those who think that's the case and that the game is bad and getting worse why do you continue to play? not being confrontational genuinely curious is there something you are looking forward to that may turn it around in your opinion?

Many people play a MMO game because they like people they can play with. Ofc it means that you can observe a massive chain -drops in population. 1 player leaves - 2 more follow, then 6 other,because there is no point in playing the game that itself isnt that great and so on and so on.

ADarklore · November 2015

I think the game is moving ahead nicely, although I hope they stop nerfing things and don't ruin anything with their plans for future "balance". Usually balance always means someone's playstyle gets nerfed or even made useless, which isn't right.

Take DCUO for example, every time they 'balance' everything, what they end up doing is forcing players to play a certain way afterward. In the past they introduced WM (weapon mastery) to add options for players, then they added AM (awesome mechanic) to powersets, then they buffed AM making WM useless, and now they're buffing melee damage while simultaneously making range damage useless. In other words, the developers are manipulating the game and forcing players to constantly play DEVS WAY instead of player's way... and I do NOT want to see ESO go down that same road.

I also like how ESO is focusing on PvE and questing for the near future and hopefully that trend continues beyond the next two DLCs. Clearly Orsinium was a HUGE success compared to IC, so I wouldn't expect a large amount of resources to be devoted to PvP anytime soon. In doing so, they alienate their majority PvE player-base, which is not the answer to long-term success. Although, I wouldn't complain if PvP got some attention, as long as it doesn't come at the expense of PvE- as in- "we're nerfing PvE in order to 'balance' PvP" kind of stuff.

Tomato · November 2015

No broken mechanics 2 years later, cc system is horrible, and the performance is getting worse each day.

Digiman · November 2015

From it's launch, yes it has gotten far better. But that doesn't mean it hasn't had it's hiccups or straight moments where developers flat out ignored their community and green lighted stupid decisions that ended up back firing on them.

I generally think that communication between departments is very lax which is why we end up with so many bugs and fixes that break other things.

But it seems that the game is a lot more interesting then it was a year ago.

Volkodav · November 2015

I'm quite happy with the game,..but for a couple of small things.Like repairs,and load screens.

Kas · November 2015

i disagree:

1) The loading screens really ruin the fun
2) Progression from playing the game is terrible between capped CP and random BoP drops
3) some balance stuff i disagree with (but i guess there's always someone how disagrees)

on the bright side, while pvp is still laggy etc, the current situation is MUCH better than it used to be directly before IC

Furor · November 2015

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

"lathbury wrote: »

I think PVP battles have improved somewhat....

I signed in just to give this an awesome! I laughed so hard

Cously · November 2015

The problem with the game is not the lack of content. We know content will take some years. The problem is the route they are following, experienced MMO players can see where this is going, it's why many negative views.

Sausage · November 2015

Of course its, IC was great addition to the game.

WebBull · November 2015

As much as I want to say the game is getting better, it simply is not. Bugs, broken skills, sets not working, enchants not working, the list can go on and on, are at an all time high. While the new content is nice, it is being heavily outweighed but the poor quality of game play right now. PvP is a disaster atm.

PBpsy · November 2015

Sausage wrote: »

Of course its, IC was great addition to the game.

LOL button where are you?

JD2013 · November 2015

Having been here since Beta, I can say that yes it certainly is getting better. Parts of the community sadly are not.

The problem is that it is struggling to recover from all of the initial bad press, and indeed that a lot of players, especially around here want the game their way or else not at all.

Being a title in the Elder Scrolls universe, this game was always going to come under great scrutiny, and I still am not convinced that people around here aren't trying to see it is a single player Elder Scrolls game, which it patently is not. It is an MMO set in the Elder Scrolls universe. Not Elder Scrolls VI. There is a big difference.

The game does have bugs. The game does have problems. But go and read over all of the patch notes and see from the very beginning how much has been done to this game to fix, appease and give people what they want. Anyone who says the devs do not listen to people on here .... well, no. Just no. Go and read all of them patch notes.

From what I have heard, it seems they have great ideas for future content and where they are going, and there's a fix patch at least every two weeks or more.

Sausage · November 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

Of course its, IC was great addition to the game.

LOL button where are you?

Ive spent easily 250+ hour in IC so it was good for me.

PBpsy · November 2015

Sausage wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

Of course its, IC was great addition to the game.

LOL button where are you?

Ive spent easily 250+ hour in IC so it was good for me.

Oh. You might like but lets face it the only things that have done more to damage the overall health of the game and to drive away people are 1.6. and the block regen nerf.

Elsonso · November 2015

Short answer: Yes.

You could not pay me to go back to the April 2014 version of the game. Except for B2P/Crown Store, uphill.

Cuyler · November 2015

My answer is relative.

If I were still a young adventurer I'd say yes...there have been a host of changes that improved the game/balance since I first leveled my characters.

But now that I'm only doing endgame stuff, it's concerning how restrictive the endgame has become with trials not being updated, the only new max content being solo or BoP gear meta. Endgame has become a very focused playstyle with less variability than when we had multiple trials/dsa at max level to complete and gear was able to be traded. So my perspective is the game is becoming more boring to play.

lathbury · November 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

Of course its, IC was great addition to the game.

LOL button where are you?

Ive spent easily 250+ hour in IC so it was good for me.

Oh. You might like but lets face it the only things that have done more to damage the overall health of the game and to drive away people are 1.6. and the block regen nerf.

I saw a few negative opinions on the forums but never heard of anyone actualy leaving because they didnt like a dlc.

Tankqull · November 2015

well i would say they are doing a few steps in the right direction while stumbling down the hill...

SneaK · November 2015

From a console perspective - (Large audience also, I should add)

This game has actually gotten a lot worse since launch and there hasn't been any signs that are pointing in the right direction. In fact, everything that keeps pushing out seems to lean more towards cash grabs rather than securing longevity of subscribers.

Biggest mistake (IMO) - Raising the level cap 4 months after release.

- This made a huge amount of content obsolete for a game that revolves around gear. No reason for DSA, no trials, no reason to gain AP. Most players weren't even V14 yet, and haven't even had a chance to play that content.

Also notable disappointments:
The changes to PvP introduced in the IC update, 50% damage reduction/Shields and healing suck. This killed some peoples builds, that they were just getting comfortable with.

Stealth nerf to Mist, doesn't seem that big, but in the end this has destroyed some Templar builds. IC nerfed Temp& DK, healing,shields, and mobility.

All in all, love the game, but I really can't say I believe it's going in the right direction.

DenMoria · November 2015

Yes. Especially in the last week since, apparently everybody has gone away.

It's a much better game.

Lord Xanhorn · November 2015

The state of the game is at an all time low in my opinion. The new PVP is irrelevant cause it doesn't satisfy the PVP player or PVE player, and they just released a single player DLC when there was already hundreds of hours of single player content. The group content consists of vet dungeons which for most people are so easy based on running them hundreds of time that they aren't even fun anymore and there's only 2 group vet dungeons that pose a decent challenge for quality players.

It seems the single player mindset has won the battle for this game's focus and people are peacing out in droves cause theres much better games that provide both a single player experiences (FO4, Divinity, hell even Skyrim) and multiplayer experiences (GW2 xpac, FF14).

Alcast · November 2015

Best joke of the day.

DenMoria · November 2015

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

The state of the game is at an all time low in my opinion. The new PVP is irrelevant cause it doesn't satisfy the PVP player or PVE player, and they just released a single player DLC when there was already hundreds of hours of single player content. The group content consists of vet dungeons which for most people are so easy based on running them hundreds of time that they aren't even fun anymore and there's only 2 group vet dungeons that pose a decent challenge for quality players.

It seems the single player mindset has won the battle for this game's focus and people are peacing out in droves cause theres much better games that provide both a single player experiences (FO4, Divinity, hell even Skyrim) and multiplayer experiences (GW2 xpac, FF14).

"Quality Players"? From the rest of the content of your post, it looks like you mean PvP players that don't give a fig for the enjoyment of the experience by anyone except themselves.

As to your last paragraph. Good. It sounds like you and your ilk are getting what you deserve.

vonfelty · November 2015

Any dlc that features Stibbons is a good dlc.

vonfelty · November 2015

lathbury wrote: »

Ok then back to topic while I appreciate the views expressed and peoples thoughts it seems some of you are of the opinion Im just happy (and or high) cause I can haz bear mounts and cloak works. Which may be true I may have rose tinted glasses on.
So to those who think that's the case and that the game is bad and getting worse why do you continue to play? not being confrontational genuinely curious is there something you are looking forward to that may turn it around in your opinion?

edit not high and if i was i wouldnt share my stash

I am enjoying this game, but if I spent $50 and the game went from enjoyable to a poop sandwich, I would either want them to change or give a refund.

If this was pure f2p, they could suck it.

But when you invest money upfront, you should not give up so easily.

If you are a millionaire and spent tens of thousands on your game library, sure, go play another game.

But when you can't get your money back and you are poor or middle class. Simply throwing away money to buy yet another game is just wasteful and shameful (starving kids and all that).

So yeah, it is their right to complain.

It's what forums are for anyways.

Volkodav · November 2015

JD2013 wrote: »

Having been here since Beta, I can say that yes it certainly is getting better. Parts of the community sadly are not.

The problem is that it is struggling to recover from all of the initial bad press, and indeed that a lot of players, especially around here want the game their way or else not at all.

Being a title in the Elder Scrolls universe, this game was always going to come under great scrutiny, and I still am not convinced that people around here aren't trying to see it is a single player Elder Scrolls game, which it patently is not. It is an MMO set in the Elder Scrolls universe. Not Elder Scrolls VI. There is a big difference.

The game does have bugs. The game does have problems. But go and read over all of the patch notes and see from the very beginning how much has been done to this game to fix, appease and give people what they want. Anyone who says the devs do not listen to people on here .... well, no. Just no. Go and read all of them patch notes.

From what I have heard, it seems they have great ideas for future content and where they are going, and there's a fix patch at least every two weeks or more.

I just want to thank you for saying everything that should be said about ESO.Yes,it does have problems,but not enough to make it a bad game to play.Not at all.But then again,that's the way you and I see it.Others will scoff and say we're soo wrong in our thinking,but I stand by your post.

usmcjdking · November 2015

The older heads will say this game is getting worse.

The newer ones will say it's awesome. There are still a lot of aspects in this game going down the drain (role responsibility and capabilities).

Been with the game for a while but I'm with the latter tho. Most of the longer ESO players will say that the game is no longer challenging, and I agree for the most part. Challenging content in this game doesn't really exist. vMA isn't challenging, it's a build specific solo dungeon (that I'm not interested in respeccing for).

If you want challenging content, you have to make challenging content for yourself. Which is why you can always find me in the group finder

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Oreyn_Bearclaw · November 2015

Yes and no. No time to write a book, but here are my quick thoughts.

-Orsinium is fun, beautiful, engaging, etc. It's a nice piece of DLC.

-IC was fun and innovative, but I lost interest faster than most I am afraid

-The arena is awesome in theory. Difficult for sure, but I like the challenge. There are some obvious bugs that I wont go into, anyone that plays it knows what they are. There is just a touch too much RNG in there. There is also a serious issue with BOP/RNG loot and the fact that it is a major gold sink for all but the absolute best players.

-Trials are gone. No other way to say this than, "WTF was ZoS smoking?" All they had to do was bump the level caps to 16 and drop some of the newer gear on the bosses. Instead, NOBODY raids anymore. This is the biggest reason I have seen many of my friends leave and not comeback. 2 of my guilds have dissolved because of this. I realize we cant have a new trial every 3 months, but COME ON MAN. You have 3 beautiful trials already there. Scale them up already, you did it for almost everything else. This should go for DSA as well.

-The new gear is for lack of a better word, frustrating. I like that we have competitive crafted sets. I am still grumpy about the v16 level cap increase that rendered all the old sets worthless. Particularly, I hate that there are really only 2 viable jewlery options at the moment, willpower and agility. I miss being able to change my gear for different situations. Now all the gear is really about maximizing your damge, primary resource, and crit. Fun sets like viscous ophidan, skirmisher, shadow walker, really have no place anymore.

-VR Ranks, just get rid of them already. Rip that band-aid right off and move on.

-BOP deserves its own bullet point. I can only gather they do this because they want people to pay for and play the content. I think this is ultimately self defeating. First, none of the gear with the exception of Maelstrom weapons are game changing. They are fun sets that are situationally useful. Rather than try to force a reluctant player base to pay for content for the gear, how about letting the content speak for and sell itself. Make the gear BoE so that it encourages your loyal base to re-run the content because we can sell stuff. There are going to be maybe 40 people that are competing for leaderboard spots in VMSA. I am pretty good, but I know I will not be one of them. If you could make this content rewarding from a gold perspective, I would likely continue to run it for a lot longer. As it stands now, the best way to make gold is to farm v16 mats, which could not be more boring. I have always made my gold crafting or selling loot from trials/VDSA, now I need to farm to have the gold to run the content. That seems fundamentally flawed...

-RNG!!! I think it is time to admit that this does not work. It drives more people away then it keeps around for the endless grind. It is time for a drastic rethinking of how gear is awarded in this game. A token system seems to make the most sense, or you could eliminate all BoP gear. This might be the ultimate downfall of ESO if something is not done.

Okay, short book.

PrinceBoru · November 2015

Of course it is getting better!

Name one game you couldn't complain about!

All these backseat game designers should put down their controllers, and join the gaming industry immediately!

Take all of your ideas, create your superior version, and give the world The Perfect Game!

I can't *** wait!

The pvp players who are so loud and negative are an unfortunate distraction for a new player.

The box the game came in says it well.

Play how you want.

ThatNeonZebraAgain · November 2015

Draxys wrote: »

Is the game overall getting better?
Yes? It is in some respects, I suppose.

But the unfortunate fact is that the game is but a shadow of what it could have been, and even of what it used to be- before they needlessly redesigned the entire game and mechanics system, when all it needed was balance work instead of overhaul.

This, this is what gets me. Especially with IC...