Removing softcaps caused so many issues! Prior to their removal there were no perma blockers, no perma dodge rolling, no unlimited shield stacking.. Personally I'd like to see them brought back and have blocking/rolling out back to what they were.

Or just being back 1.5 lol

Good luck convincing ZoS to waste more resources on a changed set of playstyles month's later.

Removal of Soft Caps was never the problem, their lack of focus to attention was. Especially when they changed armor types.

It didn't help that they decided to wait 6 months before adjusting things so things could settle.

current pve content would have to be changed, no softcaps.

softcaps is a cry from pvp players.

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Game will never be balanced without softcaps, it stopped classes like sorc and nb going full damage which kept templar and dk competitive in all aspects.

Full damage with escape routes is why most people are playing sorc or nb now and the reasoning of this is the soft caps was removed.

In 1.5 i could run around solo as a templar and feel i could take anyone, soft caps went and templar became pretty much support class.

I have several templar friends who solo a lot and whacks away quite well in Cyro. I think they may even ran over your crew at times.......Solo.

Most people who picks a class because they think that class is best at "damage" or "insert anything here", are the same ones who screams light armor is crap and DKs needs to be "rebuffed". Class matters just as much as choice of gear, effects and anything else. Saying nightblade are OP is the same as saying Ice Destro staff is OP. I dont understand that kind of reasoning.

The only big unbalanced skill in the game, is player skill. Good players always beat bad ones, no matter what character, stats and gear. However, luck is always a factor. Sometimes you loose, accept it.

My main view about softcaps is, without them, it created a much bigger area of choices regarding combat.
Speed, teamwork and adapting instantly is the killer. Not the class.

In Cyro, I have found that something as basic as understanding what stacks with what and how damage works is currently the most powerful weapon you can have. In my opinion, adding softcaps again would make most high lvl players hit most caps, and then have no real build. The build is "Everything soft caped".

No thanks.

NO!

Soft caps would ruin the Champion System and make progression pointless.

Soft caps would make long fights difficult, frustrating and boring, not to mention expensive because of the tri-pot chugging.

Soft caps would bring back Spell Symmetry spamming, which is incredibly dangerous and unfair to solo players.

Soft caps would make "edge case" builds impossible... everyone would end up with the same cookie cutter stats.

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

NO!

Soft caps would ruin the Champion System and make progression pointless.
(If CP was the only way to advance past the soft cap it would actually increase diversity of builds, every choice you make has a big impact, you would actually have to THINK about your build. Not just stack Wep dmg/stamina or SP/magicka. This would also make many armor sets which are currently not feasible more workable.)
Soft caps would make long fights difficult, frustrating and boring, not to mention expensive because of the tri-pot chugging.
(Soft caps would shift the balance of power to the skilled player. Having better stats would no longer equal a automatic win.)
Soft caps would bring back Spell Symmetry spamming, which is incredibly dangerous and unfair to solo players.

Soft caps would make "edge case" builds impossible... everyone would end up with the same cookie cutter stats.
(This is what we have now, put everything into your dmg stat. Very few actually viable builds for each class.)

If you think bringing back soft caps would reduce diversity I say to you what diversity? Every single build I see in each of the "Show me your class" threads ALL have every single stat point into Stamina or Magicka. Every single build I see online for current meta stacks all 1 stat. WHAT DIVERSITY?

Soft caps would allow for hybrid builds again. That Stamina Templar could now invest some points in magic and have a workable heal, as it stands right now Stamina Templar's abandon Breath of Life cause we can't invest in MP without fugging our build over.

Even if I thought it was a good idea (which I don't), I think there's so many more important things the development team could be doing with their time.

I wouldn't mind but least with soft cap it meant that some races advantages were not as huge. Now you really have to plat a race that gets bonus to either magic or stamina otherwise your screwed. Everyone in trials and PvP appears to be min maximing a single stat to get the most damage out.

AfkNinja wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

NO!

Soft caps would ruin the Champion System and make progression pointless.
(If CP was the only way to advance past the soft cap it would actually increase diversity of builds, every choice you make has a big impact, you would actually have to THINK about your build. Not just stack Wep dmg/stamina or SP/magicka. This would also make many armor sets which are currently not feasible more workable.)
Soft caps would make long fights difficult, frustrating and boring, not to mention expensive because of the tri-pot chugging.
(Soft caps would shift the balance of power to the skilled player. Having better stats would no longer equal a automatic win.)
Soft caps would bring back Spell Symmetry spamming, which is incredibly dangerous and unfair to solo players.

Soft caps would make "edge case" builds impossible... everyone would end up with the same cookie cutter stats.
(This is what we have now, put everything into your dmg stat. Very few actually viable builds for each class.)

If you think bringing back soft caps would reduce diversity I say to you what diversity? Every single build I see in each of the "Show me your class" threads ALL have every single stat point into Stamina or Magicka. Every single build I see online for current meta stacks all 1 stat. WHAT DIVERSITY?

Soft caps would allow for hybrid builds again. That Stamina Templar could now invest some points in magic and have a workable heal, as it stands right now Stamina Templar's abandon Breath of Life cause we can't invest in MP without fugging our build over.

You're talking to someone who has been playing a Sorc since the Beta, and I remember EXACTLY what Sorc builds were like during the bad old days.... all the SAME. Unfortunately, the standard build was only really good in group PvE, it sucked in hardcore solo PvE because of sustain issues. I also remember the caste system created by the need to chug Tri-Pots in serious play. I simply refuse to spend hours a day picking flowers in Coldharbour or shelling out real cash to Chinese gold farmers.

As a result of these issues, I spent 99% of my theorycrafting time trying to perfect a "magicka battery" build that was effective and easy to use. My eventual build depended on Critical Surge, Desert Rose armor set and heavy use of Overload, all of which have been nerfed to Obilivion. There is no going back.

It is simple. Most of the DKs and Templars want the soft caps back. On the other hand most of the NBs and Sorcs dont.
Templars and DKs want it because they hope that the meta can change, because right now it is hit hard and escape fast. And we know which classes take advantage of that.

Hm... When there were soft caps 75% of the player base was running around as a Dunmer magicka DK. Sorcs and NBs were conspicuously absent from trials leaderboards and Templars... Well, we always need a healer, right.

No fond memories of soft caps here.

daemonios wrote: »

Hm... When there were soft caps 75% of the player base was running around as a Dunmer magicka DK. Sorcs and NBs were conspicuously absent from trials leaderboards and Templars... Well, we always need a healer, right.

No fond memories of soft caps here.

So now 75% of the playerbase is NB or Sorc this has nothing to do with softcaps. Its just that DKs were freaking op back then and now its Sorcs and NBs

daemonios wrote: »

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Hm... When there were soft caps 75% of the player base was running around as a Dunmer magicka DK. Sorcs and NBs were conspicuously absent from trials leaderboards and Templars... Well, we always need a healer, right.

No fond memories of soft caps here.

So now 75% of the playerbase is NB or Sorc this has nothing to do with softcaps. Its just that DKs were freaking op back then and now its Sorcs and NBs

I've played Sorc as my main since beta. I can assure you in PvE sorcs are not OP, and certainly can't pull the kind of DPS a magicka dk could in 1.5 compared with other classes.

I don't know about PvP, and to be honest I don't care. ZOS have already pushed me away from PvP for the foreseeable future and I don't want to see PvP-centric changes wreaking havoc with the rest of the game, as we've seen in the past.

just look at malestorm leaderboards and guess what? Sorcs are by far the most completing class with highest results. So how are they not op in PVE?

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Hm... When there were soft caps 75% of the player base was running around as a Dunmer magicka DK. Sorcs and NBs were conspicuously absent from trials leaderboards and Templars... Well, we always need a healer, right.

No fond memories of soft caps here.

So now 75% of the playerbase is NB or Sorc this has nothing to do with softcaps. Its just that DKs were freaking op back then and now its Sorcs and NBs

I've played Sorc as my main since beta. I can assure you in PvE sorcs are not OP, and certainly can't pull the kind of DPS a magicka dk could in 1.5 compared with other classes.

I don't know about PvP, and to be honest I don't care. ZOS have already pushed me away from PvP for the foreseeable future and I don't want to see PvP-centric changes wreaking havoc with the rest of the game, as we've seen in the past.

just look at malestorm leaderboards and guess what? Sorcs are by far the most completing class with highest results. So how are they not op in PVE?

Also he's comparing current Sorcs to how DKs use to be in 1.5, like WTF how does that have any relevance? LOL!

Sorc OP. Nerf Sorc.