What podcast?
I like the idea though, it was so much more fun with softcaps and no CP.

Damage, healing, shields, etc. wouldn't have been reduced to 50% if it wasn't for the removal of softcaps. Even then, people are still going around landing 10K+ WBs, 10K+ frags, 8K+ surprise attacks, 12K+ assassin's will, 10K+ jabs, 10K+ lethal arrows, 12K+ stealth heavy attacks from bow, and many, many more. People will and have found ways to get their damages to what it was back in 1.6. So I'm all with it on bringing back softcaps.

Soft caps remove diversity so no thanks

Meh, they just need to rebalance a few things such as races and passives due to soft cap removal... I kinda like the fact that I can stack one attribute really high

I can see Soft Caps Co-Existing well with CP. Rather than allowing the all stacking of primary stats supplemented by CP passives, let people raise their Soft Caps via CP.

E.G. the soft cap for Spell Damage was something like 190/200 or 2000 ish in today's numbers.... Let's say that you could raise the soft cap by a max of 25% by allocating 100 cp into a specific star, raising your cap to 2400 - this is not a huge number and you would still need to use gear to actually achieve 2400 spell damage, but pushing past the soft cap would cause diminishing returns and basically force you into other stats.

If anything this will encourage diversity in builds rather than everyone piling into one extreme or another.

Softcaps won't stop you from getting killed as much

I would say for PVP only, but not PVE

No soft caps is why this game is going down the toilet much akin to Neverwinter. Trying to balance a game with no caps around skills that are balanced around caps is impossible.

Good luck ZOS.

I'm kinda mitigated on this, but I didn't play during 1.5. Reason being that everyone I saw was basically dumping all their attribute points into health, so, diversity... heh.

I don't think they'll ever bring softcaps back, but what they could do is increase health given by attribute points spent in health. That'd be a start (and probably increase health granted by glyphs / else as well).

Also... Nerf the Champion System. Remove the current hardcap, people can have 2.000 CPs if they want (even tho it's downright impossible right now with the new curve) but the stats granted by CPs are way, WAY too high when you start having a lot of these. You could basically divide the effects of all stars by 2. The CP system is an issue because devs are balancing the game around it, and this is what leads to broken stats.

Anhedonie wrote: »

Yeah, let's return to good n' old crit stacking and eating purple ***.
So much creativity, so much diversity, so much fun!

Noone said we wanted the old ult generation back this is just about softcaps.
I think they were a little low so they might need the to raise a little but soft caps were a good thing thaf didnt allow extreme things like shield stacking, 1 shot builds etc

Nifty2g wrote: »

Soft caps remove diversity so no thanks

it does the opisit actually... it caps means multiple builds can accomplish the same impact. currently it's "do this build or don't reach the dps requirements"

If you post your reason for why you want softcaps in game, then I could consider my own view.
Since you give no reason, then I can only speculate that you want softcaps from before 1.5.

This is very boring to read for everyone who knows the mechanics, but here goes.
Softcaps is the main reason which restricted the huge choice of builds that we have now.
Softcaps is one of 21 main base mechanics which as a package created the vast choices that all players have.

All players can choose among all stats, effects and abilities. Only very few class specific abilities are unique to the class which goes for all 4 classes. All other class and racials abilities all can get from global, potions, sets, effects, enchants etc.

Play and pick whatever you want! But you cant have it at the same time.
Softcaps would only mean players could take from their overcharged and put on others, creating players with "max in everything". Why is that good?

With softcaps, the armor type would not matter as much either.
Now, all armor have their own powers, and weakness.
Take light armor which rocks in direct magika damage. But the trade off is OF COURSE that you die if someone sneeze on you and you dont get the effects from heavy/med/shield

If you want protection, heavy helps! Or medium and block/roll alot. But trade away your magika effects.

You can pick what you want, but not everything at the same time!
Softcaps pre 1.5, could not have all these builds, because Highest level and gear had max in ALL, at the same time.

Is that what this poll is about?

Softcaps:
All players have 100 power. (just a number). The 100 represent your total build, where you put your power. Stats, sets, effects, buffs, teaming, solo, skills and everything that sums up to a players build/Power

Example:
Player A: 90 in Health and 10 in Stamina - Prob most health player on the server and got some stamina to use for abilities. Takes forever to die! But lacks in 99 other places where most level 10 was stronger.

Player B: Wants to be good at everything! Puts 2 Power in 50 skills! Can do tons of skills......but with the power of 2.

Player C: Hybrid class Warrior/bard/mage. Stamina build sorcerer, with 30 mag 10 health 60 stamina. Sorcerer ultimate, lightning bolt and absorb shield. Using 2H and Frost staff. Can stun most things, do very good AE and good single as well. This battlemage have no idea why sorcerers complain about no stamina builds for sorcerers.

WIth softcaps, it would not be possible with the 1000s of different builds and play styles we have today. All chars would have high power in everything, at the same time again. Which removes a lot of personal skill from the player, and back into best Class/gear/setup and smashing buttons.

Why do you want most players to have similar stats in everything?
What is so good with softcaps?

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

Anhedonie wrote: »

Yeah, let's return to good n' old crit stacking and eating purple ***.
So much creativity, so much diversity, so much fun!

Noone said we wanted the old ult generation back this is just about softcaps.
I think they were a little low so they might need the to raise a little but soft caps were a good thing thaf didnt allow extreme things like shield stacking, 1 shot builds etc

Exactly this.
If there is no cap why the armor is capped at 50%? The problem that we have is in 1.6 I reached the cap for Armor and it is 50%. But every patch adds more and more ways to increase your weapon damage or spell damage plus the resources because with the time you earn more CP. But I am not able to mitigate more damage. I am capped at 50%. If this continues in 2-3 patches ZoS should decrease the damage in PvP from 50% to 75% and so on.

hrothbern wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Soft caps remove diversity so no thanks

Fully agree !

but... it's wrong

Yes ffs yes.

Nifty2g wrote: »

Soft caps remove diversity so no thanks

The exact opposite is true. The removal of soft caps has removed diversity. With no soft caps, the optimal min/max setup for every class and role, has become vastly superior to the next best thing. It basically makes no sense to use that 2k SP setup when you can use that 4k+ SP build.Removal of softcap resulted in a crazy increase in the power gaps between similar level geared setups. This is basically is all it did. In 1.5 had three different setups on my main build with different damage/sustain/suport ratios for different situations. They worked because the overall difference in damage was not overly punishing.Now the high damage setup skyrocketed in power and the sustain setup fails in every respect.

In terms of stat distribution the same thing is true. In 1.5 my magicka NB PVP build had points into stamina because it the cap helped them be more valuable than magicka at cap. Now with the removal of caps and a couple of other changes it makes no sense for me to not go for the 40k+ magicka setup. Going in any other direction is wasteful since going Magick/SP all the way gives maximum benefits always.