My spell damage is lower than a friend with the exact same setup
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GnGEmpire✭✭✭@Resipsa131 Attributes don't matter because magicka doesnt increase raw spell damage, only the actual skill damage.
@Anasatsudo CP don't matter in terms of raw spell damage mate, only actual skill damage
@fanta my friend isn't a sorc, we are the same class, same race, and have same abilities slotted. (both magicka NB's)
@Reverb I understand that a full recap from both would be helpful but my friend wishes to stay anonymous (very competitive pvp'er) however there aren't "plenty of reasons". I have given 2 differences. 1 was that 1 gear piece was missing the divine trait. This equals not much more than a mere 10 spell damage, and second thing was the jewelry glyphs that were 160 spell damage instead of 174, which I have now upgraded and are the exact same as hers. Still, the difference in a total of 500 raw spell damage is there
@Resipsa131 Nah mate she wasn't in cloak at the timeCasualty - small high end/end game PvE guild. Recruiting!0 -
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When we tested it, whatever the off-hand item was would lose a set bonus piece. Basically, the game seems to view only the first weapon as part of a set, not the second.@Preyfar my DW weapons are actually 1x kagrenac and 1x torug's. Does the bug still apply in this case?
PS: I just realized that I don't have the Divines trait on my 1x Molag Kena piece which would add a few more points of spell damage, but no where near a 500 difference0 -
GnGEmpire✭✭✭@OrphanHelgen Yes it is mentioned at the OP mate, same mundus
@olsborg no he wasn't sneaking mate
@Preyfar interesting mate, however this doesn't seem to be the issue in my case because I have the same spell damage regardless of which weapon is in my main hand (just tested)Casualty - small high end/end game PvE guild. Recruiting!0 -
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✭Want to share your gear becuase it is clear that you are not using legendary equipment everywhere?Reference for any calculation I make Introduction to PvE Damage Calculation0 -
GnGEmpire✭✭✭@Asayre I'm happy to share it, and I am using all legendary gear apart from 1 piece molag kena which is purple and willpower jewelry ofc.
5X Kagrenac's Hope V16 Legendary
2/3X Torug's Pact - V16 Legendary
3X Willpower jewelry set - V16 Purple - All arcane, all legendary spell damage glyphs (174)
1X Molag Kena - V16 Purple
Body gear traits: Infused on Helm/Legs/Chest and rest are divines.
2x 1H swords - Nirnhoned
All glyphs are V16 Legendary Max Magicka (besides weapons)
Do my stats seem lower to you than they should be with this gear?
I am with 240 CP btw.
Edited by GnGEmpire on November 10, 2015 9:56PMCasualty - small high end/end game PvE guild. Recruiting!0 -
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✭Yes, your character screen is just a bit lower than expected if everything was legendary. This is the breakdown of your current spell damage
Weapon: 1602 (1335*1.2 for Dual wielding)
Jewellery enchant: 480 (160*3) Note: Previously you said it was 160 but your previous post says 174. 160 matches your character sheet
Set: 663 (224 [Kagrenac 5p] + 129 [Torug 2p] + 186 [Willpower 3p] + 124 [Molag Kena 1p])
Apprentice: 203 (166 [Base] * (1 +0.075*3) Note: You mentioned that your Molag Kena was not divines.
Total = 2948
With Major Sorcery, your spell damage is 3537.6 which matches your character sheet.
To get to 4k spell damage, apart from suggestions you have rejected, you would need the Spell Power Cure buff or Molag Kena 2p. Minor Sorcery would help a bit but is not sufficient.Reference for any calculation I make Introduction to PvE Damage Calculation1 -
Resipsa131✭✭✭@Resipsa131 Attributes don't matter because magicka doesnt increase raw spell damage, only the actual skill
I was under the understanding that 100 magicka roughly translated to 12 spell power. So you're saying you could put all your attributes into health and have the same spell damage the only thing that would change would be tool tip damage?0 -
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✭✭✭Resipsa131 wrote: »@Resipsa131 Attributes don't matter because magicka doesnt increase raw spell damage, only the actual skill
I was under the understanding that 100 magicka roughly translated to 12 spell power. So you're saying you could put all your attributes into health and have the same spell damage the only thing that would change would be tool tip damage?
For tooltip damage, yes, but not spellpowerValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
Anasatsudo✭✭@Resipsa131 Attributes don't matter because magicka doesnt increase raw spell damage, only the actual skill damage.
@Anasatsudo CP don't matter in terms of raw spell damage mate, only actual skill damage
@fanta my friend isn't a sorc, we are the same class, same race, and have same abilities slotted. (both magicka NB's)
@Reverb I understand that a full recap from both would be helpful but my friend wishes to stay anonymous (very competitive pvp'er) however there aren't "plenty of reasons". I have given 2 differences. 1 was that 1 gear piece was missing the divine trait. This equals not much more than a mere 10 spell damage, and second thing was the jewelry glyphs that were 160 spell damage instead of 174, which I have now upgraded and are the exact same as hers. Still, the difference in a total of 500 raw spell damage is there
@Resipsa131 Nah mate she wasn't in cloak at the time
@GnGEmpire Not insofar as CP amount, but rather, how those champion points are allocated.0 -
Regis_Filius✭✭Can you share screenshots of yours both characters by this addon - http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1114-MyBuild.html"Come to me, Stendarr, for without you, I might be deaf to the manswarm murmurings of thy people, and forgetting their need for comfort and wisdom, I might indulge myself in vain scribblings"0 -
GnGEmpire✭✭✭@Asayre awesome man thanks for taking the time to do this.
Just to clarify, I did infact upgrade the glyphs on my rings so now i have a total increase of 42 spell damage (the character sheet picture was taken before the upgrade)
A question tho, what suggestion/s have I rejected? unless you mean being in stealth/near a keep in cyrodiil which I do not see as a real increase.
*** BTW I just realised the King Richard's latest build, which uses the same gear as I do, MINUS 1x molag kena and without the apprentice mundus stoneCasualty - small high end/end game PvE guild. Recruiting!0 -
GnGEmpire✭✭✭@Anasatsudo As far as I'm aware also the allocation doesn't affect raw spell damge. My character screen would show the same amount whether I have 100 point into thaumeturge for example or none at all.
@Regis_Filius unfortunately i can only share my own screenshot since my friend is a very competative PVP player and asked me not to share her character details. Therefor I am asking generally, what factors of this game could I have missed that can impact spell damage so significantlyEdited by GnGEmpire on November 12, 2015 8:52AMCasualty - small high end/end game PvE guild. Recruiting!0 -
Belidos✭✭✭✭✭@Anasatsudo As far as I'm aware also the allocation doesn't affect raw spell damge. My character screen would show the same amount whether I have 100 point into thaumeturge for example or none at all.
@Regis_Filius unfortunately i can only share my own screenshot since my friend is a very competative PVP player and asked me not to share her character details. Therefor I am asking generally, what factors of this game could I have missed that can impact spell damage so significantly
Erm, if as you say you have exactly the same setup as him, then whether he wants to show it or not, you're showing it by showing yours
Sounds more like he has something different to you and won't tell you.0
