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Another stealth nerf to Templars?

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"Adjusted several abilities to improve overall game performance. Affected abilities will now tick less frequently, but deal more damage such that overall damage should remain constant. The affected abilities include:
Blazing Spear
Consuming Darkness and its morphs
Eruption
Lightning Splash and its morphs
Necrotic Orb and its morphs
Path of Darkness and its morphs
Radiant Destruction and its morphs"


Is this another stealth nerf to templar dps? Or did you actually increase blazing stears damage by an amount that compensates the loss of burning light passive?

Its pretty hard to test since I didnt know before the patch hit so Id like to have a statement of @ZOS
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    So this is what the third thread made about this now? I don't know I never truly keep track.
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  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
    So this is what the third thread made about this now? I don't know I never truly keep track.

    Im very sorry I didnt see one about that yet so I thought it was nessesary asking.
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  • Alucardo
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    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Im very sorry I didnt see one about that yet so I thought it was nessesary asking.
    Just ignore him.
  • UltimaJoe777
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Im very sorry I didnt see one about that yet so I thought it was nessesary asking.
    Beep Beep.

    It's quite alright OP, happens all the time lol
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on November 10, 2015 2:38PM
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  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Im very sorry I didnt see one about that yet so I thought it was nessesary asking.
    Just ignore him.

    I will dont feed trolls because they are growing fat and ugly right?

    But I just checked ingame the tooltip still sais it ticks once per second but the damage is a lot higher so this could actually be a stealth buff to templars dps? If it is im speachless that is idk what to say maybe a step in the right direction although its not intened? :D
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Im very sorry I didnt see one about that yet so I thought it was nessesary asking.
    Just ignore him.

    I will dont feed trolls because they are growing fat and ugly right?

    But I just checked ingame the tooltip still sais it ticks once per second but the damage is a lot higher so this could actually be a stealth buff to templars dps? If it is im speachless that is idk what to say maybe a step in the right direction although its not intened? :D

    According to the statement you quoted the ticking was reduced but overall damage increased with the overall gain being to improve performance.
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  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Im very sorry I didnt see one about that yet so I thought it was nessesary asking.
    Just ignore him.

    I will dont feed trolls because they are growing fat and ugly right?

    But I just checked ingame the tooltip still sais it ticks once per second but the damage is a lot higher so this could actually be a stealth buff to templars dps? If it is im speachless that is idk what to say maybe a step in the right direction although its not intened? :D

    According to the statement you quoted the ticking was reduced but overall damage increased with the overall gain being to improve performance.

    well yea but the tooltip still states once per second like before the patch just the tooltip damage is at 1327 unbuffed which is pretty high imo
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Im very sorry I didnt see one about that yet so I thought it was nessesary asking.
    Just ignore him.

    I will dont feed trolls because they are growing fat and ugly right?

    But I just checked ingame the tooltip still sais it ticks once per second but the damage is a lot higher so this could actually be a stealth buff to templars dps? If it is im speachless that is idk what to say maybe a step in the right direction although its not intened? :D

    According to the statement you quoted the ticking was reduced but overall damage increased with the overall gain being to improve performance.

    well yea but the tooltip still states once per second like before the patch just the tooltip damage is at 1327 unbuffed which is pretty high imo

    All I can say is sometimes the tooltips are not as up to date as they should be lol
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  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Im very sorry I didnt see one about that yet so I thought it was nessesary asking.
    Just ignore him.

    I will dont feed trolls because they are growing fat and ugly right?

    But I just checked ingame the tooltip still sais it ticks once per second but the damage is a lot higher so this could actually be a stealth buff to templars dps? If it is im speachless that is idk what to say maybe a step in the right direction although its not intened? :D

    According to the statement you quoted the ticking was reduced but overall damage increased with the overall gain being to improve performance.

    well yea but the tooltip still states once per second like before the patch just the tooltip damage is at 1327 unbuffed which is pretty high imo

    All I can say is sometimes the tooltips are not as up to date as they should be lol

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    yep im gonna test it now the damage is increased so lets check the dot frequency
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  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    Just tested its still once per second
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  • Anasatsudo
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    The damage per tick is higher, but the duration was shortened.
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    Anasatsudo wrote: »
    The damage per tick is higher, but the duration was shortened.

    wasnt it always just 6 seconds?
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  • Hiero_Glyph
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    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Just tested its still once per second

    Did you see the 28k Refreshing Path tick? Yeah, this change is a hot, buggy mess.
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    Hiero_Glyph wrote: »
    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Just tested its still once per second

    Did you see the 28k Refreshing Path tick? Yeah, this change is a hot, buggy mess.

    That happens because @ZOS does things without ever testing it
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  • Alcast
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    Hiero_Glyph wrote: »
    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Just tested its still once per second

    Did you see the 28k Refreshing Path tick? Yeah, this change is a hot, buggy mess.

    they prolly added a 0 too much. Well feel free to exploit this lul. NB leaderboards going awall
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  • Scyantific
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    Hopefully they realize these changes were more trouble that what they're worth and revert everything to the way it was.

    Screw performance improvements and screw nerfs. If the only way they can improve performance is by nerfing skills then they seriously need to think about what kind of mess their code is and not just toss out nerfs everywhere.
  • UltimaJoe777
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Hiero_Glyph wrote: »
    Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »
    Just tested its still once per second

    Did you see the 28k Refreshing Path tick? Yeah, this change is a hot, buggy mess.

    they prolly added a 0 too much. Well feel free to exploit this lul. NB leaderboards going awall

    You may be correct on that. A single typo can make the world of difference in coding and the person that typed it (if it is the case lol) is probably facepalming and saying "oops" after discovering it :p
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  • Troneon
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    Complete joke ZOS, complete joke. Your nerfs fail at nerfing, your fixes fail at fixing and your bugs mutate into more bugs. Tooltips that lie all the time and UI bugs that make building different builds based on stats completely pointless.

    I am honestly thinking of giving up any hope of ESO ever being fixed.
    Edited by Troneon on November 10, 2015 11:03PM
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    I don't trust tooltips, nor updates and patchnotes ..when I test my dps i use addons and go to a specific high health/ low dmg enemy to test my damage on. Low dmg is important, so I don't run too much around or need to heal myself while I dps. x

    x_x I wish the information the base game gave us would be enough, but it's not.
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    One day they will secretly remove templars altogether from the game, at least that's what it looks like at this point.
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