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Did someone finish vetMA with a stamina DK build?

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  • Dragonnord
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    TotterTates wrote: »
    I got to the stage 9 (final) boss last night on my stamina DK last night... not going to tell you how long I was in there...

    Had to quit as it was 1am. Making another run at it tonight. Maybe I'll stream it.

    You're a werewolf? Just asking because of your profile pic. If not, I'd like to see that video when you complete it, or at least the first stages. :smile:
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    Bogdan_Kobzar wrote: »
    Without using "issues" for; infinite stamina regeneration, dual-wield 2h weapons, mulit-jewelry, enhanced magicka/spell damage or the normal to vet dungeon mode swap,
    with a VR16 Nord DragonKnight non-vamp non-werewolf,
    i gave up after 4 hours.

    Magicka 5, Health 10, Stamina 49
    stamina recovery 633
    health recovery 421
    magicka recovery 519

    Mundus The Warrior
    VR16 Necklace and rings of Endurance buff on health, enchanted with reduced stamina cost
    3 piece Ashen Grip all medium
    5 piece Hunding's Rage
    Primary weapon Greatsword, Secondary Bow
    Using food, blue-buff to health and stamina

    weapon damage 1833 with a crit % of 42.6

    It seemed that most everyone that was completing vet MA was using the one of the "issues"

    With numbers that low you wont complete the arena on vet.
  • Alcast
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    CarbonHD wrote: »
    TotterTates wrote: »
    I got to the stage 9 (final) boss last night on my stamina DK last night... not going to tell you how long I was in there...

    Had to quit as it was 1am. Making another run at it tonight. Maybe I'll stream it.

    You're a werewolf? Just asking because of your profile pic. If not, I'd like to see that video when you complete it, or at least the first stages. :smile:

    Just finished with Stam DK no WW.

    It did not record srtage 8 boss...bc game crashed and forgot recording, all other bosses are on the video tho. Which bosses you wanna see? all?
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  • Dragonnord
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    Alcast wrote: »
    CarbonHD wrote: »
    TotterTates wrote: »
    I got to the stage 9 (final) boss last night on my stamina DK last night... not going to tell you how long I was in there...

    Had to quit as it was 1am. Making another run at it tonight. Maybe I'll stream it.

    You're a werewolf? Just asking because of your profile pic. If not, I'd like to see that video when you complete it, or at least the first stages. :smile:

    Just finished with Stam DK no WW.

    It did not record srtage 8 boss...bc game crashed and forgot recording, all other bosses are on the video tho. Which bosses you wanna see? all?

    Yes please, all. :smile:
  • Alcast
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    CarbonHD wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    CarbonHD wrote: »
    TotterTates wrote: »
    I got to the stage 9 (final) boss last night on my stamina DK last night... not going to tell you how long I was in there...

    Had to quit as it was 1am. Making another run at it tonight. Maybe I'll stream it.

    You're a werewolf? Just asking because of your profile pic. If not, I'd like to see that video when you complete it, or at least the first stages. :smile:

    Just finished with Stam DK no WW.

    It did not record srtage 8 boss...bc game crashed and forgot recording, all other bosses are on the video tho. Which bosses you wanna see? all?

    Yes please, all. :smile:

    going in again, maybe this time I can record all fights.
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  • Dragonnord
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    Alcast wrote: »
    CarbonHD wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    CarbonHD wrote: »
    TotterTates wrote: »
    I got to the stage 9 (final) boss last night on my stamina DK last night... not going to tell you how long I was in there...

    Had to quit as it was 1am. Making another run at it tonight. Maybe I'll stream it.

    You're a werewolf? Just asking because of your profile pic. If not, I'd like to see that video when you complete it, or at least the first stages. :smile:

    Just finished with Stam DK no WW.

    It did not record srtage 8 boss...bc game crashed and forgot recording, all other bosses are on the video tho. Which bosses you wanna see? all?

    Yes please, all. :smile:

    going in again, maybe this time I can record all fights.

    No need, I meant that if you already have a video with all the other bosses, last one included, I'd like to see it. :smile:
  • SirDopey
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    Not everybody records their gameplay so just because no ones posted a video doesn't mean it can't be done...
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    Bogdan_Kobzar wrote: »
    Without using "issues" for; infinite stamina regeneration, dual-wield 2h weapons, mulit-jewelry, enhanced magicka/spell damage or the normal to vet dungeon mode swap,
    with a VR16 Nord DragonKnight non-vamp non-werewolf,
    i gave up after 4 hours.

    Magicka 5, Health 10, Stamina 49
    stamina recovery 633
    health recovery 421
    magicka recovery 519

    Mundus The Warrior
    VR16 Necklace and rings of Endurance buff on health, enchanted with reduced stamina cost
    3 piece Ashen Grip all medium
    5 piece Hunding's Rage
    Primary weapon Greatsword, Secondary Bow
    Using food, blue-buff to health and stamina

    weapon damage 1833 with a crit % of 42.6

    It seemed that most everyone that was completing vet MA was using the one of the "issues"

    Is your gear broken? Stamina Recovery, Weapon Damage and Crit all seem way too low for V16. To be fair, my non-battle levelled V4 Sorc has higher stats than that....
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    SirDopey wrote: »
    Not everybody records their gameplay so just because no ones posted a video doesn't mean it can't be done...

    Really? Then why Youtube is packed with videos of players completing vetMA with all other classes and builds and NONE for a classic DK stamina build? Stop trying to excuse something that maybe no one has yet been able to achieve!!!
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    lol this guy
  • Alcast
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    And now please do not tell me I do not use enough DK skills >.>
    Boss 8 is with WW(becuase old footage)
    Boss 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9 without WW as you wished.

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  • SirDopey
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    Alcast wrote: »
    And now please do not tell me I do not use enough DK skills >.>
    Boss 8 is with WW(becuase old footage)
    Boss 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9 without WW as you wished.

    https://youtu.be/1GpxoPdGcaA
    CarbonHD wrote: »
    SirDopey wrote: »
    Not everybody records their gameplay so just because no ones posted a video doesn't mean it can't be done...

    Really? Then why Youtube is packed with videos of players completing vetMA with all other classes and builds and NONE for a classic DK stamina build? Stop trying to excuse something that maybe no one has yet been able to achieve!!!

    You were saying????

    I agree, NON WW stam Dk's arn't as strong as their WW counter parts, but if you're choosing not to be WW then don't complain, there obviously has to be an incentive for being WW besides just running around as wolf....
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    Alcast wrote: »
    And now please do not tell me I do not use enough DK skills >.>
    Boss 8 is with WW(becuase old footage)
    Boss 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9 without WW as you wished.

    https://youtu.be/1GpxoPdGcaA

    That is fantastic work! CONGRATULATIONS! You're the first, and only so far, classic stamina build DK I know completed the vet Malestrom Arena.

    If you allow me to ask, may I please know how many CPs you have? How do you resist so much damage without shields and barely healing yourself?

    Thanks and congrats once again! :smile:
    Edited by Dragonnord on November 9, 2015 11:48PM
  • Dragonnord
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    SirDopey wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    And now please do not tell me I do not use enough DK skills >.>
    Boss 8 is with WW(becuase old footage)
    Boss 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9 without WW as you wished.

    https://youtu.be/1GpxoPdGcaA
    CarbonHD wrote: »
    SirDopey wrote: »
    Not everybody records their gameplay so just because no ones posted a video doesn't mean it can't be done...

    Really? Then why Youtube is packed with videos of players completing vetMA with all other classes and builds and NONE for a classic DK stamina build? Stop trying to excuse something that maybe no one has yet been able to achieve!!!

    You were saying????

    I agree, NON WW stam Dk's arn't as strong as their WW counter parts, but if you're choosing not to be WW then don't complain, there obviously has to be an incentive for being WW besides just running around as wolf....

    "I was saying?" Are you trying to be smart? Don't you see Alcast has just posted this video on Youtube because I asked him after having a nice conversation in this thread with him? It's now the first only video in YouTube of a classic stamina build DK completing the vetMA.
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    Edited by Bogdan_Kobzar on November 17, 2015 5:45PM
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  • Xantaria
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    Hey,

    I did complete vMA a few days ago on my first run ever with my 678 Stamina Regen Dual Wield Stamina DK.

    I did not use Werewolf
    I did not use Corrosive Armor
    I did not use Reflective Scales
    I did not use Fossilize
    I only used potions on last boss

    Basically all I did was Banner and Steel Tornado and running around. Seriously.

    Took me 3 hours and ~120 deaths because I had to learn the mechanics.

    Good Luck!

    But honestly why would anyone record a video of that? The content is way too easy because as you can see there are over twohundred completions already at this point. People are beating it without preparation and without adjusting their build even. Some people already completed the No-Death achievement. In the first week.
    Edited by Xantaria on November 10, 2015 6:56AM
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  • Xantaria
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    Bogdan_Kobzar wrote: »
    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    With numbers that low you wont complete the arena on vet.

    Um, those are the VR16 numbers from the character screen, what should the numbers be?
    SirDopey wrote: »
    Is your gear broken? Stamina Recovery, Weapon Damage and Crit all seem way too low for V16. To be fair, my non-battle levelled V4 Sorc has higher stats than that....

    both weapons are vr14 gold temper infused trait, and the armor is VR14 gold temper with gold health enchants on all 7 of the armor pieces, head chest and legs are infused trait and the other 4 are divine trait.

    I'm starting to think that my account for this character is broken. Which would really explain my bad attitude of constantly getting smited.

    So, I need to LEARN TO PLAY, L2P, where can i look up values of what my character's spec should be along with the weapons and armor. Are there any simulators that actually work to VR16? Are there any published forumula's?
    help?
    please?
    help...

    Weapons with infused, health enchantments? You have a looong way to go buddy. Talk with more poeple, apply for good guilds, TeamSpeak, discuss builds, test stuff, write down numbers, start theorycrafting, improove your DPS, learn animation cancelling. That's how you 'L2P'. You can not expect to beat vMA without being atleast a bit dedicated.

    A good Thread to get into theorycrafting is this one: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/pts-2-1-2-sorcerer-arithmagic/ Although it is made for Sorcerers it contains a lot of equations that are interesting for all builds.

    Try this for dual wield (Bow is bad for PvE, you should step away from it):

    5 Twice-Born Star
    1 Molag Kena
    3 Nightmother's Gaze
    3 Agility

    Heavy Armour Chest
    Light Armour Belt
    Everything else Medium Armor

    Weapons (Daggers!) Precise Trait
    All Armour Pieces Divine Trait
    All Armour Pieces Stamina Enchantments
    Agility Jewellery with Stamina Traits and Weapon Damage Enchantments
    One Weapon with Crushing Enchantment
    One Weapon with Weapon Damage Enchantment

    Shadow + Thief Mundus Stone
    All 64 Character points into Stamina
    Stamina + Health Bufffood

    Orc or Imperial are the best race choices for a Stamina DK. Khajiit isn't too bad either.

    And then just press the magical button with Steel Tornado in it.

    Have a Two-Hander (Precise) on second bar for Rally.
    Edited by Xantaria on November 10, 2015 7:28AM
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  • Lassor
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    I completed vMA twice with my stam DK and I do not have werewolf. Did it the third day in and then again today. It sucks but it's doable. I have no video, you'll just have to take my word for it. I'm on the leaderboard with my crappy 379 score. I expect the next time I run it I can make at least a respectable score.
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    Xantaria wrote: »
    But honestly why would anyone record a video of that? The content is way too easy because as you can see there are over twohundred completions already at this point. People are beating it without preparation and without adjusting their build even. Some people already completed the No-Death achievement. In the first week.

    Just guessing but steam stats say about 2800 players peak last 30 days so let's just make that times two to include non-steam players also so 5600 players and 200 has completed which makes whopping 3,5%. I have feeling the numbers are bit higher then 5600 so we can most likely say 1-2% has actually managed to complete it. Easy indeed.
    Syntse Dominion Khajiit Dragonknight Stamina Tank [50]
    Ra'Syntse Dominion Khajiit Nightblade Magica DPS [50]
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  • Xantaria
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    This is Veteran Maelstrom Arena, not daily quest X. It is not meant to be completable by any casual.

    Sanctum HM and Speed Run took months to be completed. And vMA got destroyed 200 times within a week. And yet people say it's too hard :').
    Edited by Xantaria on November 10, 2015 11:53AM
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  • Alcast
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    Xantaria wrote: »
    This is Veteran Maelstrom Arena, not daily quest X. It is not meant to be completable by any casual.

    Sanctum HM and Speed Run took months to be completed. And vMA got destroyed 200 times within a week. And yet people say it's too hard :').

    It is not too hard, but the bugs are breaking it.

    Stage 3 Stranglers pull you although they do not. Stage 6 hitbox issues/ broken WW. Stage 7 NPC puts bubble up too late/ Cant break free of the bleed the boss applies to you.
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  • Dragonnord
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    Xantaria wrote: »
    This is Veteran Maelstrom Arena, not daily quest X. It is not meant to be completable by any casual.

    Sanctum HM and Speed Run took months to be completed. And vMA got destroyed 200 times within a week. And yet people say it's too hard :').

    Not surprising someone responding with something that has NOTHING to do with the thread point.

    So you're missing the point here as NO ONE is saying to nerf the arena, or it being hard for everyone, etc., just that it's highly unbalanced against classic DKs with stamina build.

    If you're going to opine buddy, please first read VERY carefully the discussion, try to understand it and just then give your opinion, otherwise, trying to be smart, is useless. :wink:
  • Vangy
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    So today i progressed to boss 6 after work. I only get an hour or 2 a day on weekdays so its a little slow. Refer to my earlier post for the build im running. I'm pretty confident I can clear it by the end of the week. But like someone else pointed out it takes a lot of deaths while learning and its kind of a joke how I clear it....

    Basically spam obsidian + rally + vigor and spam steel tornado while frantically running around kiting and LOS for my dear life until boss round which surprisingly up till this point is a lot easier than the earlier waves of adds....
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  • Lassor
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    Managed to get my third clear of stam DK today with a score of 96k. Funny part is I didn't move up in the rankings going from 379 to 96k still kept me at #5 overall, lol. I believe I can get a much better score with more practice but I'm burnt out on Arena for now, will try to improve next week. I still agree with the main point of the post that stam DK gets a major shaft in vMA. I saw some videos of other people doing it on different classes and it's a joke compared to what I have to do.
  • Colosso-monstro
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    lol this guy

    I'm looking for a magicka sorc who has completed vet maelstrom but who isn't using force pulse, entropy, or inner light.
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    Can everybody stop feeding the troll?
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    CarbonHD wrote: »
    blabafat wrote: »
    Doesn't look like that DK is properly geared...

    13.5k CRITS on the first boss for wrecking blow won't cut it

    I agree with you, still, no "properly geared" stamina DKs have yet responded. So, properly or not properly geared, no completions so far.
    lol why wouldnt you use WW for DPS? It's insanely strong
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    CarbonHD wrote: »
    blabafat wrote: »
    Doesn't look like that DK is properly geared...

    13.5k CRITS on the first boss for wrecking blow won't cut it

    I agree with you, still, no "properly geared" stamina DKs have yet responded. So, properly or not properly geared, no completions so far.
    lol why wouldnt you use WW for DPS? It's insanely strong

    What a stupid response! So the 500k+ (maybe a lot more) dps players of this game MUST be WWs?

    "lol why wouldnt you be a NFL, NBA, MLB player if you are a human instead of being a gamer? They are insanely rich"

    What a stupid response!

    Besides, the point of this thread is demonstrating that the vetMA is unbalanced for classic DKs with a stamina build. But well, it seems you missed the reading comprehension classes back at school time, OR, you are 10 or less years old.
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    CarbonHD wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    CarbonHD wrote: »
    blabafat wrote: »
    Doesn't look like that DK is properly geared...

    13.5k CRITS on the first boss for wrecking blow won't cut it

    I agree with you, still, no "properly geared" stamina DKs have yet responded. So, properly or not properly geared, no completions so far.
    lol why wouldnt you use WW for DPS? It's insanely strong

    What a stupid response! So the 500k+ (maybe a lot more) dps players of this game MUST be WWs?

    "lol why wouldnt you be a NFL, NBA, MLB player if you are a human instead of being a gamer? They are insanely rich"

    What a stupid response!

    Besides, the point of this thread is demonstrating that the vetMA is unbalanced for classic DKs with a stamina build. But well, it seems you missed the reading comprehension classes back at school time, OR, you are 10 or less years old.
    Sounds like you're too stubborn to actually do good DPS, not sure whats up with your argument but if you're going to refuse to do something that does good damage in a game, remember this is a game, no need to throw real life scenarios that are completely unrelated in here.

    But if you refuse then you will never get better. The viable option is there, it's your choice if you want to use it and do good damage. Don't complain when you refuse against it though

    And also, this arena is "unbalanced" at certain points for every single class. Get over it.
    Edited by Nifty2g on November 11, 2015 12:05PM
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  • Dragonnord
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    CarbonHD wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    CarbonHD wrote: »
    blabafat wrote: »
    Doesn't look like that DK is properly geared...

    13.5k CRITS on the first boss for wrecking blow won't cut it

    I agree with you, still, no "properly geared" stamina DKs have yet responded. So, properly or not properly geared, no completions so far.
    lol why wouldnt you use WW for DPS? It's insanely strong

    What a stupid response! So the 500k+ (maybe a lot more) dps players of this game MUST be WWs?

    "lol why wouldnt you be a NFL, NBA, MLB player if you are a human instead of being a gamer? They are insanely rich"

    What a stupid response!

    Besides, the point of this thread is demonstrating that the vetMA is unbalanced for classic DKs with a stamina build. But well, it seems you missed the reading comprehension classes back at school time, OR, you are 10 or less years old.

    Sounds like you're too stubborn to actually do good DPS, not sure whats up with your argument but if you're going to refuse to do something that does good damage in a game, remember this is a game, no need to throw real life scenarios that are completely unrelated in here.

    But if you refuse then you will never get better. The viable option is there, it's your choice if you want to use it and do good damage. Don't complain when you refuse against it though

    And also, this arena is "unbalanced" at certain points for every single class. Get over it.

    Most stupid response I've ever seen on this forums. Now people MUST play the game the way you think they must play it! LOL! Why would you be a magicka dps if you can be a stamina WW dps that is "insanely strong"?

    So I'm forced to play the game as a WW if I'm a dps! LOL!!!

    And if you say that the arena is "unbalanced" to every class you know NOTHING about the vetMA arena. Simply as that. Every single class and builds have completed it with thousands of players, while classic stamina DKs, if around 10 players completed it, is too much.

    So, unbalanced for everyone to your opinion at some point? Maybe. But still 90%+ unbalanced against stamina DKs compared to other classes and builds that, again, THAT IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD, not being a WW or not. Open a thread if you like asking "Are you a DPS? Why you are not a WW then?

    Please, go do some jogging, painting, gaming and move away from this thread if you are not able to comprehend its point and objective.
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