Natch potes?

nimander99 · November 2015

I don't care about Natch Potes until they have a line that reads a little something like this...

"We've discovered the problem with the zone loading times and have implemented a fix that should considerably reduce load times when zoning!"

Edit: a bonus line could read like this too:

"We've also fixed the 27 'soft loading screens' you experience when walking from one end of Orsinium to the other"

TomSamuel · November 2015

or . ..

"We've discovered the problem with the lag in PVP and have implemented a fix that should considerably reduce load times when playing in the PVP zone !"

Belidos · November 2015

nimander99 wrote: »

I don't care about Natch Potes until they have a line that reads a little something like this...

"We've discovered the problem with the zone loading times and have implemented a fix that should considerably reduce load times when zoning!"

Edit: a bonus line could read like this too:

"We've also fixed the 27 'soft loading screens' you experience when walking from one end of Orsinium to the other"

It would be more like ...

"We have resolved the issue of unexpectedly long load times by implementing a 9 minute timer, now they won't be so unexpected"

LaerothKeykalyn · November 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

please tell me, when new reporting updates to crown store

Reverb · November 2015

WTB seagulls

kuscoe · November 2015

Asmael · November 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Well, the natch potes will be published before maintenance is over. Those will be soon, but maintenance completion still has some time.

Boom, fixed!

WitchyWarrior · November 2015

Is insightful the new lol? I hope so

ZOS_GinaBruno · November 2015

Here are the patch notes for your reading pleasure! http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/230084/

Elsonso · November 2015

WitchyWarrior wrote: »

Is insightful the new lol? I hope so

No, insightful means insightful. If people are using it for the negative form of lol, it means insightful.

HairyFairy · November 2015

LoreRiley wrote: »

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wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »

When I contacted support about the two rollbacks I had on Saturday (costing me a dwemer belts motif in the process) they said there was a fix coming for them on Monday. So hopefully that might be in the notes somewhere.

So it doesng affect me

If you play this game, everything in the patch notes affects you.

Cogo · November 2015

kuscoe wrote: »

This gif is fantastic. Already legendary among MMOs!

Only a gif of @ZOS_GinaBruno working on the 72 pages in 1.5, and smack the Macbook in the head when word crash, could beat it!

Enodoc · November 2015

WitchyWarrior wrote: »

Is insightful the new lol? I hope so

Not directly, as we don't want to degrade the meaning of "Insightful", but it is quite often used in a sarcastic measure.

Scyantific · November 2015

hahahaha and of course a nerf comes in under the guise of an "improvement"

GG ZoS thanks for nerfing those few skills you mentioned in 2.2.5

Arkadius · November 2015

Can't find a guild bank fix

ssewallb14_ESO · November 2015

Adjusted several abilities to improve overall game performance. Affected abilities will now tick less frequently, but deal more damage such that overall damage should remain constant. The affected abilities include:

Blazing Spear
Consuming Darkness and its morphs
Eruption
Lightning Splash and its morphs
Necrotic Orb and its morphs
Path of Darkness and its morphs
Radiant Destruction and its morphs

Valkyn Skoria's coffin was already sealed pretty tight, but hey another nail couldn't hurt.

HairyFairy · November 2015

Scyantific wrote: »

hahahaha and of course a nerf comes in under the guise of an "improvement"

GG ZoS thanks for nerfing those few skills you mentioned in 2.2.5

I am sure by making these abilities tick less, it will overall make them work better. they stated that they will do more damage per tick, so it's still balanced as before.

I guess some people will always feel the need to twist their words around.

Reverb · November 2015

HairyFairy wrote: »

Scyantific wrote: »

hahahaha and of course a nerf comes in under the guise of an "improvement"

GG ZoS thanks for nerfing those few skills you mentioned in 2.2.5

I am sure by making these abilities tick less, it will overall make them work better. they stated that they will do more damage per tick, so it's still balanced as before.

I guess some people will always feel the need to twist their words around.

Because if the intention was for the outcome to be the same, they would have left these skills alone. "as balanced as before" sounds as much a hand wave of the truth as "damage should remain constant".

Scyantific · November 2015

HairyFairy wrote: »

Scyantific wrote: »

hahahaha and of course a nerf comes in under the guise of an "improvement"

GG ZoS thanks for nerfing those few skills you mentioned in 2.2.5

I am sure by making these abilities tick less, it will overall make them work better. they stated that they will do more damage per tick, so it's still balanced as before.

I guess some people will always feel the need to twist their words around.

Path of Darkness and Veil of Blades.

TWO abilities vital to Sap Tanks because of their fast-ticking DoT properties which meant tons of chances to proc Siphoning Attacks and get resources back, have now been nerfed.

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

Adjusted several abilities to improve overall game performance. Affected abilities will now tick less frequently, but deal more damage such that overall damage should remain constant. The affected abilities include:

Blazing Spear
Consuming Darkness and its morphs
Eruption
Lightning Splash and its morphs
Necrotic Orb and its morphs
Path of Darkness and its morphs
Radiant Destruction and its morphs

Valkyn Skoria's coffin was already sealed pretty tight, but hey another nail couldn't hurt.

Actually, Skoria may or may not have gotten a ninja buff in last week's patch. Either the proc-rate went up or they removed the idiotic internal cooldown on it, because I've been proc-ing meteors like crazy these last few days.

EDS604 · November 2015

and... how often is less frequently? don't take away my 0.5 sec on twisted path

HairyFairy · November 2015

Reverb wrote: »

HairyFairy wrote: »

Scyantific wrote: »

hahahaha and of course a nerf comes in under the guise of an "improvement"

GG ZoS thanks for nerfing those few skills you mentioned in 2.2.5

I am sure by making these abilities tick less, it will overall make them work better. they stated that they will do more damage per tick, so it's still balanced as before.

I guess some people will always feel the need to twist their words around.

Because if the intention was for the outcome to be the same, they would have left these skills alone. "as balanced as before" sounds as much a hand wave of the truth as "damage should remain constant".

The intention, as stated, was to improve overall game performance.

If you don't understand that, perhaps the constant use and ticking of these abilities (likely more in PVP) was possibly creating more lag than intended. they then implemented an easy fix, that didn't nerf the abilities.

I mean people are on here directly after only reading it, screaming nerf, when they have no proof otherwise. go play, if the abilities damage output is lower, then come back and scream nerf.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · November 2015

Xiana wrote: »

Can't find a guild bank fix

Agree. Just read notes and no mention of fixing/replacing lost guild items. I know it was said in other threads, but, curious, is this still being addressed in this patch?

b92303008rwb17_ESO · November 2015

b92303008rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Can't see there is anything to be expected. I bet it is no more than 3 pages and no real bugs such as resources, loading screen, or blocking cost will be addressed.

It seems my guess was spot on. Three pages of patch notes addressing no major bugs. Typical ZOS.

G0ku · November 2015

"Fixed a number of frequently-occurring game crashes."

The way how this is written gets me think they even couldn´t identify the problem what causes the rollbacks in dungeons... It ain´t crashes, the dungeons just ports you out but you stay ingame...

ZOS_GinaBruno · November 2015

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Xiana wrote: »

Can't find a guild bank fix

Agree. Just read notes and no mention of fixing/replacing lost guild items. I know it was said in other threads, but, curious, is this still being addressed in this patch?

Yes, it is. Apologies for leaving it out, that was merely an oversight.

Scyantific · November 2015

HairyFairy wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

HairyFairy wrote: »

Scyantific wrote: »

hahahaha and of course a nerf comes in under the guise of an "improvement"

GG ZoS thanks for nerfing those few skills you mentioned in 2.2.5

I am sure by making these abilities tick less, it will overall make them work better. they stated that they will do more damage per tick, so it's still balanced as before.

I guess some people will always feel the need to twist their words around.

Because if the intention was for the outcome to be the same, they would have left these skills alone. "as balanced as before" sounds as much a hand wave of the truth as "damage should remain constant".

The intention, as stated, was to improve overall game performance.

If you don't understand that, perhaps the constant use and ticking of these abilities (likely more in PVP) was possibly creating more lag than intended. they then implemented an easy fix, that didn't nerf the abilities.

I mean people are on here directly after only reading it, screaming nerf, when they have no proof otherwise. go play, if the abilities damage output is lower, then come back and scream nerf.

Of course you're just looking at the skills themselves and not anything else that is affected.

1)Less DoT from Shards means less chances to proc Burning Light. Status: Nerfed
2)Less DoT from Lightning Splash means less chances to proc Disintegration. Status: Nerfed
3)Less DoT from Path and VoB means less chances to proc SA (AND YES PATH DOES PROC SA BEFORE ANYONE STARTS). Status: Nerfed
4)Less DoT from all of these abilities means even less chances to proc Skoria meteors. Status: Double Nerfed

If the only solution they had to fixing the performance issues in PvP was to nerf these abilities then clearly the issue is beyond their level of skill for fixing it.

Gojak · November 2015

WitchyWarrior wrote: »

What is with the whole "Natch Potes" thing? Every time I see it it makes my skin crawl. Like nails on a chalkboard.

Have you ever chewed on tin foil?

Aldmera · November 2015

Dear @ZOS_GinaBruno ,

Please add these and all previous patch notes to the patch notes section of the News> Patch Notes page. It has not been updated since 2.1.9.

Flaminir · November 2015

Scyantific wrote: »

HairyFairy wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

HairyFairy wrote: »

Scyantific wrote: »

hahahaha and of course a nerf comes in under the guise of an "improvement"

GG ZoS thanks for nerfing those few skills you mentioned in 2.2.5

I am sure by making these abilities tick less, it will overall make them work better. they stated that they will do more damage per tick, so it's still balanced as before.

I guess some people will always feel the need to twist their words around.

Because if the intention was for the outcome to be the same, they would have left these skills alone. "as balanced as before" sounds as much a hand wave of the truth as "damage should remain constant".

The intention, as stated, was to improve overall game performance.

If you don't understand that, perhaps the constant use and ticking of these abilities (likely more in PVP) was possibly creating more lag than intended. they then implemented an easy fix, that didn't nerf the abilities.

I mean people are on here directly after only reading it, screaming nerf, when they have no proof otherwise. go play, if the abilities damage output is lower, then come back and scream nerf.

Of course you're just looking at the skills themselves and not anything else that is affected.

1)Less DoT from Shards means less chances to proc Burning Light. Status: Nerfed
2)Less DoT from Lightning Splash means less chances to proc Disintegration. Status: Nerfed
3)Less DoT from Path and VoB means less chances to proc SA (AND YES PATH DOES PROC SA BEFORE ANYONE STARTS). Status: Nerfed
4)Less DoT from all of these abilities means even less chances to proc Skoria meteors. Status: Double Nerfed

If the only solution they had to fixing the performance issues in PvP was to nerf these abilities then clearly the issue is beyond their level of skill for fixing it.

I agree with you 100% @Scyantific Unfortunately it seems that ZoS also have had this very limited viewpoint as well & have neglected to think on the knock on effects of these 'changes'.

I guess it seems that all classes got a bit of a nerf in that there are skills across the board....

But I have to admit I do feel a bit sorry for DoT builds... Skoria got nerfed so often lately its really not very good anymore at all, and there aren't exactly a lot of alternatives for them.

WitchyWarrior · November 2015

Gojak wrote: »

WitchyWarrior wrote: »

What is with the whole "Natch Potes" thing? Every time I see it it makes my skin crawl. Like nails on a chalkboard.

Have you ever chewed on tin foil?

Oh dear god WHY?! Why would you remind me?! Eating something that had a small piece still stuck to it *Shutter*

That reminds me of a TV show from a long time ago(can't remember which one) but they were doing things that drove people nuts and one guy balled up a big piece of Aluminum foil, put it in his mouth and chomped away. I was young when I saw it and that sh!@t gave me nightmares man. Thanks for reminding me! hahaha