spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.
Nice way to pass the buck mate
It's not passing the buck if it's true.As Wheeler's explained before, he's in charge of the rules and systems for PvP. Actual abilities belong to Wrobel - doesn't matter where those abilities happen, whether it's in Cyrodiil or PvE spaces.
Both devs are equally to blame. Wheeler is clearly not communicating our needs effectively (If he is, Wrobel should be demoted for not mitigating damages to quality of gameplay), and the only change done with regards to rules and systems is that now we have different campaign rule sets for scoring.
WHIPPDI DOO THERE BUD, TOOK A YEAR TO MAKE ONE OF THE MOST USELESS TWEAKS IN THE GAME. NO ONE CARES ABOUT SCORING, WE WANT LAGLESS FIGHTS IN POPULATED SERVERS. How in gods name can an award winning AAA MMORPG get significantly worse since launch? AND PEOPLE ARE STILL SIDING WITH THE DEVS! The blind following the blind I swear.
/pickettingmode
Once again you're making a ton of assumptions that likely are not true. Fengrush I know met and talked to Wheeler during Twitchcon. I'm absolutely certain he gets the gist of our issues. The reality of the situation may be that Eric Wrobel either doesn't agree with our suggestions or he doesn't have the capability to allow for combat systems to function differently in both PvP and PvE so he has to make decisions that are in the best interest of their bread and butter which is PvE.
Lol Ill just say on this shortly - I did meet B Wheeler at Twitchcon but I met him as a friend, not as a customer of his game. It can be very hard to separate the two given how passionate I am about the games I play, but I didnt talk about AOE caps or anything in the game regarding these issues.
As nice as it would be, Id feel like Im imposing and being pretty weird. As much as you see my words on stream or in the forum, they are my reflections as a player/customer towards ZOS as a whole. They are intended to be constructive thoughts as well, despite how they may be interpreted at times. I met Gina at Twitchcon too, and Ive met them both before! I intend to stay friendly with them both so Im not going to bring up these issues which I also know they cant simply fix on their own.
Ahh, I figured you would have at least slipped him a $20 to pass a note to Wrobel. I get what you're saying though, I'd have no brought up the issues as well unless they asked me for them specifically.
ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »
Dev Tracker, for a while, didn't function with posts Rich or I made on the forums unless we tagged Gina/Jess/Jason/Kai to flag them each individually and they're already hammered with their jobs so we didn't bother them constantly. This was recently fixed and we Devs can now Dev Track our posts again. No conspiracy or anything, just gremlins.
Regarding my personal play time, I am leveling up another character in DC, just not streaming it.
Darnathian wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.
Nice way to pass the buck mate
It's not passing the buck if it's true.As Wheeler's explained before, he's in charge of the rules and systems for PvP. Actual abilities belong to Wrobel - doesn't matter where those abilities happen, whether it's in Cyrodiil or PvE spaces.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler
It would be awesome if he could give us some of his thoughts on the recent discussions that have taken place.
There has been some really constructive (if passionate) discussion recently with regard to balance, aoe caps, arena pvp etc and It would be fantastic to hear the relevant devs' points of view on these issues.
For example, the pvp Arena:
I have heard that the arena is not implemented on live because zos wants us to use Cyrodiil. Cyrodiil is bad at the moment for reasons discussed and so the result is that people want an arena.
Ultimately zos's goal is profit and repeatable Content (such as arena plus leagues and leaderboards) is a fantastic way to keep people interested and paying. Arguably this will generate more cash than continuing with the status quo.
This doesn't need rng loot and league tables would allow people to fight similarly - skilled players, thus providing a balanced experience for all. This would achieve the goal of catering to the many.
Cyrodiil performance
This tanked with the lighting patch. Whatever caused it, whatever was in that patch caused performance to be poor and the game has been frustrating ever since.
Please communicate with us. What caused this and what can be done to fix it?
How do Arena's generate cash?
There are many ways for Arenas to generate cash but the primary revenue generator would be through making it a DLC and offering seasonal rewards that are unique to the Arena for the achieving top ranks in the Arena. Hell, by just offering a new unique color for achieving a certain rank in the Arena you could end up with a large influx of players from the PvE side of the game interested in making a run for it.
Ara_Valleria wrote: »defilade__ESO wrote: »SleepyTroll wrote: »
They have fixed a couple things, sorcs no longer float thru the air for 50 meters and enter keeps and resource towers, so there's that. But the age old exploits for getting into a keep where you have not yet breached the walls, are still not being paid any attention to, dragonknights can still leap onto keep walls, getting onto the inner keep walls from the outer walls, nightblades still ambush thru doors.
Those are "Creative Use Of Game Mechanics" and is working as intended.
Perphection wrote: »
Arenas don't need to generate cash, it would be a feature that would actually keep people playing. If you want to monetize an arena, you allow for the custom creation an arena that is password protected if you so choose, available to a guild, or available to anyone if the owner chooses.
If they want to make money all they need to do is add something to the Crown Store that allows players to modify the looks and style of their gear, add new and unique skins for weapons. So many of their problems have simple fixes, they just have an incredible level of incompetence over there.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.
Nice way to pass the buck mate
It's not passing the buck if it's true.As Wheeler's explained before, he's in charge of the rules and systems for PvP. Actual abilities belong to Wrobel - doesn't matter where those abilities happen, whether it's in Cyrodiil or PvE spaces.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.
Nice way to pass the buck mate
It's not passing the buck if it's true.As Wheeler's explained before, he's in charge of the rules and systems for PvP. Actual abilities belong to Wrobel - doesn't matter where those abilities happen, whether it's in Cyrodiil or PvE spaces.
Sooo can you walk into his office slap him ask for dynamic ult gen and no AOE Caps? k thnx bai.
mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.
Nice way to pass the buck mate
It's not passing the buck if it's true.As Wheeler's explained before, he's in charge of the rules and systems for PvP. Actual abilities belong to Wrobel - doesn't matter where those abilities happen, whether it's in Cyrodiil or PvE spaces.
Sooo can you walk into his office slap him ask for dynamic ult gen and no AOE Caps? k thnx bai.
Publius_Scipio wrote: »mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.
Nice way to pass the buck mate
It's not passing the buck if it's true.As Wheeler's explained before, he's in charge of the rules and systems for PvP. Actual abilities belong to Wrobel - doesn't matter where those abilities happen, whether it's in Cyrodiil or PvE spaces.
Sooo can you walk into his office slap him ask for dynamic ult gen and no AOE Caps? k thnx bai.
I agree with her reaction. Thinking you could get her...... The nerve.
Hahahahaha got you !
mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.
Nice way to pass the buck mate
It's not passing the buck if it's true.As Wheeler's explained before, he's in charge of the rules and systems for PvP. Actual abilities belong to Wrobel - doesn't matter where those abilities happen, whether it's in Cyrodiil or PvE spaces.
Sooo can you walk into his office slap him ask for dynamic ult gen and no AOE Caps? k thnx bai.
I agree with her reaction. Thinking you could get her...... The nerve.
Hahahahaha got you !
Yeah, you got me
Publius_Scipio wrote: »mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.
Nice way to pass the buck mate
It's not passing the buck if it's true.As Wheeler's explained before, he's in charge of the rules and systems for PvP. Actual abilities belong to Wrobel - doesn't matter where those abilities happen, whether it's in Cyrodiil or PvE spaces.
Sooo can you walk into his office slap him ask for dynamic ult gen and no AOE Caps? k thnx bai.
I agree with her reaction. Thinking you could get her...... The nerve.
Hahahahaha got you !
Yeah, you got me
I agree. He can get her.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler
I may be talking above my head here but with all due respect, I don't think that ZOS have enough ingame testers. Maybe it's time to hire new game testers such as the casters present during the unofficial TESO Podcasts. *cough cough*
Those guys know what's going on and how to improve this game for the best. I think it's time that you consider hiring some of your most active and devoted players for the community. Give them mod access, ingame tester or any position in the marketing department.
They have been playing this game non stop since beta, they are the best representation of our players pool. Give them a chance to tell you what they feel right there in the battlefield, for a better future, for a better game, for what should have been The Elder Scrolls Online right from the start.
Publius_Scipio wrote: »@ZOS_BrianWheeler
I may be talking above my head here but with all due respect, I don't think that ZOS have enough ingame testers. Maybe it's time to hire new game testers such as the casters present during the unofficial TESO Podcasts. *cough cough*
Those guys know what's going on and how to improve this game for the best. I think it's time that you consider hiring some of your most active and devoted players for the community. Give them mod access, ingame tester or any position in the marketing department.
They have been playing this game non stop since beta, they are the best representation of our players pool. Give them a chance to tell you what they feel right there in the battlefield, for a better future, for a better game, for what should have been The Elder Scrolls Online right from the start.
This complication of this whole matter is a bunch of BS. No one needs to be hired, the 657th thread on the matter doesn't need to be posted, more podcasts don't need scheduled.
All that needs to happen is the devs contact Fengrush through Skype or whatever else and have pen and paper in hand. Simple done.
If you watched the podcast you know that Fengrush has a maturity and quality about him that came through above the others. Not knocking them but they come off as passionate gamers. BICEPSrush comes off as someone who can really explain to the devs distilling everything and clearly making his point, understand what the devs have to say, and work with them on a whole different level. No offense, but lefty Lucy would sit in front of the devs, disagree with them, and take constant sips of drinks every 2.5 seconds.
Publius_Scipio wrote: »@ZOS_BrianWheeler
I may be talking above my head here but with all due respect, I don't think that ZOS have enough ingame testers. Maybe it's time to hire new game testers such as the casters present during the unofficial TESO Podcasts. *cough cough*
Those guys know what's going on and how to improve this game for the best. I think it's time that you consider hiring some of your most active and devoted players for the community. Give them mod access, ingame tester or any position in the marketing department.
They have been playing this game non stop since beta, they are the best representation of our players pool. Give them a chance to tell you what they feel right there in the battlefield, for a better future, for a better game, for what should have been The Elder Scrolls Online right from the start.
This complication of this whole matter is a bunch of BS. No one needs to be hired, the 657th thread on the matter doesn't need to be posted, more podcasts don't need scheduled.
All that needs to happen is the devs contact Fengrush through Skype or whatever else and have pen and paper in hand. Simple done.
If you watched the podcast you know that Fengrush has a maturity and quality about him that came through above the others. Not knocking them but they come off as passionate gamers. BICEPSrush comes off as someone who can really explain to the devs distilling everything and clearly making his point, understand what the devs have to say, and work with them on a whole different level. No offense, but lefty Lucy would sit in front of the devs, disagree with them, and take constant sips of drinks every 2.5 seconds.
Fengrush for president
mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.
Nice way to pass the buck mate
It's not passing the buck if it's true.As Wheeler's explained before, he's in charge of the rules and systems for PvP. Actual abilities belong to Wrobel - doesn't matter where those abilities happen, whether it's in Cyrodiil or PvE spaces.
Sooo can you walk into his office slap him ask for dynamic ult gen and no AOE Caps? k thnx bai.
Publius_Scipio wrote: »All that needs to happen is the devs contact Fengrush through Skype or whatever else and have pen and paper in hand. Simple done.
If you watched the podcast you know that Fengrush has a maturity and quality about him that came through above the others. Not knocking them but they come off as passionate gamers. BICEPSrush comes off as someone who can really explain to the devs distilling everything and clearly making his point, understand what the devs have to say, and work with them on a whole different level. No offense, but lefty Lucy would sit in front of the devs, disagree with them, and take constant sips of drinks every 2.5 seconds.
ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »There are a few things in the patch/update after Orisneum to address some quality of life issues for Campaigns/Cyrodiil as well as including some changes to ability logic and how abilities interact with physics processes.
For Orsinium Imperial City got a few fixes for "ladder gankers" as well as making the daily quests concurrent. Your requests for a capturable district as well as gated access to IC across the board has not fallen on def ears, however there are no plans to change that at this time. Several things currently getting worked on for Campaign population/number of Campaigns offered needs to get finished before changing IC rules across the board. Other discussions are still on going regarding Town Capture in Cyrodiil, more objectives/flags for Cyrodiil, and improvements to what you can spend your AP on.
Dev Tracker, for a while, didn't function with posts Rich or I made on the forums unless we tagged Gina/Jess/Jason/Kai to flag them each individually and they're already hammered with their jobs so we didn't bother them constantly. This was recently fixed and we Devs can now Dev Track our posts again. No conspiracy or anything, just gremlins.
Regarding my personal play time, I am leveling up another character in DC, just not streaming it.
OtarTheMad wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »There are a few things in the patch/update after Orisneum to address some quality of life issues for Campaigns/Cyrodiil as well as including some changes to ability logic and how abilities interact with physics processes.
For Orsinium Imperial City got a few fixes for "ladder gankers" as well as making the daily quests concurrent. Your requests for a capturable district as well as gated access to IC across the board has not fallen on def ears, however there are no plans to change that at this time. Several things currently getting worked on for Campaign population/number of Campaigns offered needs to get finished before changing IC rules across the board. Other discussions are still on going regarding Town Capture in Cyrodiil, more objectives/flags for Cyrodiil, and improvements to what you can spend your AP on.
Dev Tracker, for a while, didn't function with posts Rich or I made on the forums unless we tagged Gina/Jess/Jason/Kai to flag them each individually and they're already hammered with their jobs so we didn't bother them constantly. This was recently fixed and we Devs can now Dev Track our posts again. No conspiracy or anything, just gremlins.
Regarding my personal play time, I am leveling up another character in DC, just not streaming it.
Thanks for the update. Good to know what you guys are working on for PvP.
Darnathian wrote: »OtarTheMad wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »There are a few things in the patch/update after Orisneum to address some quality of life issues for Campaigns/Cyrodiil as well as including some changes to ability logic and how abilities interact with physics processes.
For Orsinium Imperial City got a few fixes for "ladder gankers" as well as making the daily quests concurrent. Your requests for a capturable district as well as gated access to IC across the board has not fallen on def ears, however there are no plans to change that at this time. Several things currently getting worked on for Campaign population/number of Campaigns offered needs to get finished before changing IC rules across the board. Other discussions are still on going regarding Town Capture in Cyrodiil, more objectives/flags for Cyrodiil, and improvements to what you can spend your AP on.
Dev Tracker, for a while, didn't function with posts Rich or I made on the forums unless we tagged Gina/Jess/Jason/Kai to flag them each individually and they're already hammered with their jobs so we didn't bother them constantly. This was recently fixed and we Devs can now Dev Track our posts again. No conspiracy or anything, just gremlins.
Regarding my personal play time, I am leveling up another character in DC, just not streaming it.
Thanks for the update. Good to know what you guys are working on for PvP.
Huh? He didn't say anything. It's always the same stuff. "We are still hVing discussions ... ". Blah blah. Don't be fooled. They have zero interest in pvp.
They found out long ago that it is not repairable. They put all resources towards PVE. Their money maker. They know pvp is doomed for any decent pvp game that comes out. Halo and BF are going to hurt this game bad.
Other discussions are still on going regarding Town Capture in Cyrodiil, more objectives/flags for Cyrodiil, and improvements to what you can spend your AP on.
If Wrobel is in charge of PvP, then he needs to make a forum account and come talk with us. some people will insult him, true, but those people need to be ignored. I still have hope for this game; and communication is key to its survival, something that has been lacking for the past year and a half in regards to PvP issues
LegendaryChef wrote: »Going from pvps current condition I'd be surprised if he managed to figure out how to make a forum account.
The best part about it all is he is the one in charge of it all and yet sits back and let's all the other devs take the heat for the mess that he is in charge of. I'm pretty tired of watching this game run itself further into the ground with each "big" patch and to be honest I'm just patiently waiting until something else comes out now because I have simply lost all hope that this is going to get much better.
I spent 3000 crowns on the dlc yesterday and was already bored after a couple of hours because it's just simply not enough content IMO.
Edit: The only thing that left me slightly happy was the fact that I now own a goat that goes by the name of Miruku.
The current state of PvP is no individuals fault. ZOS simply does not have the financial resources required to develop, balance, and fix the game properly. If they did, they would have.
The real question is..... who is responsible for putting the stair scaffolding at the gates right in the middle of the pathway?