Zeni.. You NEED to un-nerf grinding mobs.

Islyn · November 2015

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Don't nerf the mobs.

Nerf grinding itself!

Seriously, I get sooo vexed by those grinding quest-dodgers coming to some cadwells zone and killing all the mobs, over and over, so I can hardly find those I need for my quest completions...

Really wish the game would keep track of mob types killed, and reduce expees by 1% per kill until they are no longer gaining anything because killing the hundreth mudcrab is no longer an experience to learn from, but mere routine...

That'd show them. Show them all!

Sigh. No one is killing so many mobs you cannot get yours. Good lord. If you really think that just send a tell saying: hey, I need x amount of these - can you let me play through, thanks!

I always do this when I need to and never had an issue.

Sithisvoid · November 2015

Grinding is still fine either just do it or QQ

Scyantific · November 2015

Frawr wrote: »

Teiji wrote: »

They've done enough already; DLC offers vastly superior experience to everywhere else, if you want to grind, either subscribe or buy the DLC, the base game shouldn't give as much XP as DLC zones, DLC has to be designed in a way that is going to move more units.

I agree with DLC being higher.

I disagree with base game being nerfed in the same way as I disagree with nerfing base game armour stats.

Cheap tactics.

This just goes to prove that Zeni has no faith in their DLC being able to attract people to it. That's why there was a ton of nerfs to Cyrodiil and base game item sets. So people would have to go into IC to get the new and shiny.

TequilaFire · November 2015

The real question is, why is it anyone's business how we level quest or grind?
All the same just a different journey.
Unless you are MMO police wanna be. lol

MudcrabsRus · November 2015

Can anyone post evidence to mobs being nerfed ?
Or nahh....

winterbornb14_ESO · November 2015

I haven't played in a few days because this game has me and my wife bored!

What and when did they Nerf? Overland Zombies or Sewers?

Seriously Zo$ needs to have an adult take away their Nerf bat and put them in the corner for a time out.

People don't want to do the same quests over and over, how freeking hard is that to understand?

I think once you finish gold you should have the option of a Vr11? character at creation so you can by pass all the same crap you have already done multiple times. Grind a few levels to flesh out you skills and then play how you want, not how Zo$ forces you to play.

Wollust · November 2015

I do not see any reason why I should do all the quests I already did once again if I want to have a new char. It's everyones own choice how to level up. Some people don't like the mindless grind, some don't like the boring questing. No reason to have a fight about it.

sadownik · November 2015

@Wollust - eXile - nice i remember good runs with you guys on thornblade few months ago. Where are you now based?

Wollust · November 2015

sadownik wrote: »

@Wollust - eXile - nice i remember good runs with you guys on thornblade few months ago. Where are you now based?

Hey @sadownik. We are most of the time on Azura, as it is the only campaign with more or less consistent PvP. But we do like to jump campaigns when it gets too laggy.

Eleusian · November 2015

They need to up the vr level of the NPCs on the back end of our Gold zones to VR14. This would give our VR16 characters a viable Grind area without competing with low levels & low VR players.

Anorak · November 2015

I hate to say it, but maybe vet dungeons or normal dungeons should yield more exp for grinding you know so people can have a multiplyer experience in an MMO

PsychoKRATOS1 · November 2015

MudcrabsRus wrote: »

Can anyone post evidence to mobs being nerfed ?
Or nahh....

PTS patch notes or some post by devs with... upcoming changes... killing multiple NPCs over a period of time will eventually yield little to no xp. Idk where I read this, but it was in Dev notes.

PsychoKRATOS1 · November 2015

Wollust wrote: »

I do not see any reason why I should do all the quests I already did once again if I want to have a new char. It's everyones own choice how to level up. Some people don't like the mindless grind, some don't like the boring questing. No reason to have a fight about it.

Agreed.

All personal preference. Grinding mobs shouldn't be nerfed for the simple reason that it's game play choice, it would be like nerfing quest rewards/xp

The way I see it is:

ALL MMO's have a grind mechanic.
-If they wanted you to focus on quests, they should have improved rewards and given you an incentive to complete quests, like armour and weapons that *grow* with you as you level, more xp and more of a monetary reward.
Knowing full well in a game where killing monsters nets xp, that people would "abuse" this by "grinding" is only going to annoy your players if you take it away.
-If they want you to focus on quests. Have another incentive. It's up to you whether or not you quest, so those who do, get rewarded... challenges offering extra attributes... or skill points. Etc.

PsychoKRATOS1 · November 2015

Aeula wrote: »

Agree. The only way to level on my VR14 is to grind, there's nothing left for me to do in the world. Making the grind take longer is infuriating.

Vr16 NB. no grinding in vr except for the initial lv 10. Haven't even done stonefalls.
I just quest in cyrodiil and PvP ik it's not for everyone. But if you have a good bunch of friends and xp boosts... 1 or even 2 vr lvls a day is feasible. AND once you're done. Rinse the alliance and main quest line for extra sp and scour the land and subsequent lands for skyshards

MudcrabsRus · November 2015

PsychoKRATOS1 wrote: »

MudcrabsRus wrote: »

Can anyone post evidence to mobs being nerfed ?
Or nahh....

PTS patch notes or some post by devs with... upcoming changes... killing multiple NPCs over a period of time will eventually yield little to no xp. Idk where I read this, but it was in Dev notes.

I just read over the patch notes their... It sais nothing about nerfing xp that i can see...

Can anyone post evidence ?

I think you guys are talking nonsense.

Scyantific · November 2015

TequilaFire wrote: »

The real question is, why is it anyone's business how we level quest or grind?
All the same just a different journey.
Unless you are MMO police wanna be. lol

Except the people who want to grind aren't getting into anyone's business? It's the quest-loving folks that are telling us to shut up and do the same crap over and over.

Anorak wrote: »

I hate to say it, but maybe vet dungeons or normal dungeons should yield more exp for grinding you know so people can have a multiplyer experience in an MMO

Technically you *can* grind vet dungeons, for the slayer achievements which give a one-time xp reward.

And they did yield more exp, until Zeni nerfed the exp rates to hell because no one was experiencing "their vision" for the game.

Sithisvoid · November 2015

PsychoKRATOS1 wrote: »

MudcrabsRus wrote: »

Can anyone post evidence to mobs being nerfed ?
Or nahh....

PTS patch notes or some post by devs with... upcoming changes... killing multiple NPCs over a period of time will eventually yield little to no xp. Idk where I read this, but it was in Dev notes.

I'm not 100% but i'm pretty sure that comment was pertaining to AP and killing players in cyrodiil.

MikeB · November 2015

Bring back grinding. Doing all the quest over and over is enough to make me quit playing. The RNG is bad enough don't make every aspect of this game torture.

Anorak · November 2015

Scyantific wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

The real question is, why is it anyone's business how we level quest or grind?
All the same just a different journey.
Unless you are MMO police wanna be. lol

Except the people who want to grind aren't getting into anyone's business? It's the quest-loving folks that are telling us to shut up and do the same crap over and over.

Anorak wrote: »

I hate to say it, but maybe vet dungeons or normal dungeons should yield more exp for grinding you know so people can have a multiplyer experience in an MMO

Technically you *can* grind vet dungeons, for the slayer achievements which give a one-time xp reward.

And they did yield more exp, until Zeni nerfed the exp rates to hell because no one was experiencing "their vision" for the game.

Well "their vision" of people never touching one another and just being in it for themselves is a stupid one.

PsychoKRATOS1 · November 2015

Sithisvoid wrote: »

PsychoKRATOS1 wrote: »

MudcrabsRus wrote: »

Can anyone post evidence to mobs being nerfed ?
Or nahh....

PTS patch notes or some post by devs with... upcoming changes... killing multiple NPCs over a period of time will eventually yield little to no xp. Idk where I read this, but it was in Dev notes.

I'm not 100% but i'm pretty sure that comment was pertaining to AP and killing players in cyrodiil.

That's already in place and has been since the September patch with IC.
I'm now 90% sure I read a Dev notes saying something like... killing the same mobs in an area/killing same mobs will yield less and less xp the more you kill.

Of course if I'm wrong. Yay. Lol

demustacio · November 2015

winterbornb14_ESO wrote: »

I haven't played in a few days because this game has me and my wife bored!

What and when did they Nerf? Overland Zombies or Sewers?

Seriously Zo$ needs to have an adult take away their Nerf bat and put them in the corner for a time out.

People don't want to do the same quests over and over, how freeking hard is that to understand?

I think once you finish gold you should have the option of a Vr11? character at creation so you can by pass all the same crap you have already done multiple times. Grind a few levels to flesh out you skills and then play how you want, not how Zo$ forces you to play.

Oh how i agree with your post. after hitting VR16 and having to do it all over again with another toon is just too tedious and boring

Zorrashi · November 2015

Wollust wrote: »

I do not see any reason why I should do all the quests I already did once again if I want to have a new char. It's everyones own choice how to level up. Some people don't like the mindless grind, some don't like the boring questing. No reason to have a fight about it.

You don't HAVE to quest. You can still grind. It's just closer to being at the same level of XP reward as quests (but still faster). All that is left is to choose which one you genuinely more fun doing.