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Which Class do YOU feel is Overpowered?

  • Tryxus
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    Cody wrote: »
    LOL
    69% nightblades
    Nerf that class before its too late ZOS
    (I noticed half the none of tha above voters are the same people that goes around telling people to l2p and counter their so weak nbs hahaha)

    Have you played the NB class yet?

    If he did, he wouldn't be calling for nerfs
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  • Levo18
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    Nightblade
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Yup, ppl call the NB "OP" simply cuz it's the only well balanced class out there (tried 3/4, haven't played Temp yet)

    And it's not just that the other classes need boosts, a lot of things need to change

    Well balanced class? You must be kidding cloak and surprise attack are the top op skills in this game. And yes i have a v16 nb but retired
  • Savos_Saren
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    None of the Above
    I don't know about a certain class... but those Argonians... pssssh.... they're OP in everything. ;) /s
    Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.

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  • stewart.leslie76b16_ESO
    None of the Above
    Sorcs should be able to nuke you from a distance, but get close and they get torn apart. They should have high protection against magic because hey, it's their JOB but run like hell when that sword wielding maniac is charging towards them.

    DK should be able to take a beating before you drop them to their knees. Their armour should take the punishment from any physical weapon, but the second magic is in play, they need back up.

    NBs need to get up close and personal to rip you a new one. Yet if they don't deal with you quickly, then they have to hope someone is around to rez them.

    Temps should be frustrating as hell, you get them to the line only for them to turn around and say "Surprise!".

    Each class should have a chance to escape, just so happens that the NBs chance to escape is also their main weapon in dealing damage. You're not supposed to see them coming, you are meant to be kept on your toes!

    And before you cry "But he's a NB!!!", I have one of every class. My NB is my crafter.

    Pity the fool who thinks NBs are overpowered now, because when The Dark Brotherhood comes you will feel the wrath of the Nightblades.

    But hey, let's scream for nerf and get the watered down version of WAR! When an opposing army get's it's backside handed to them on a silver plate, they don't scream for nerf, they go back to the drawing board and come back with something bigger and more powerful. That is EVOLUTION, advance or die!

    There should be 4 more general skill lines available, built specifically to take out each of the 4 classes. Then you have a choice, rely on your class skills and other bits and pieces that we currently use now to deal with other classes (seriously, cloak is so easy to counter), or take skills from the class hunter lines and hope you don't leave holes open for the other classes to exploit.
    Edited by stewart.leslie76b16_ESO on October 30, 2015 4:35AM
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  • Aquanova
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    None of the Above
    Actually I feel that every other class that I don't play is OP......but hey.....that's just me!
    Edited by Aquanova on October 30, 2015 9:36AM
    NA/PC
  • Reeko
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    None of the Above
    As a Magicka Nightblade, DK's are op. Stam or mag. Reflective scales are real!

    Magicka Templars are op. (Turns into a "can i outlast his heals")

    Magicka sorc are Balanced. (Turns into a "who can catch whom slipping and burst him down before he recovers from his mistake.)

    Other magicka nb are just annoying. "Lets both cloak and see who has more patience!"

    Stamina NB just eat me alive if i'm not all up on my toes.

    Stamina Sorc i just laugh at.

    Stamina Temp i laugh at till they kill me in 2-3 stab stab moves.

    All in all i say that is pretty balanced. I am op against certain class builds and get wrecked by others.
  • Tryxus
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    Reeko wrote: »
    As a Magicka Nightblade, DK's are op. Stam or mag. Reflective scales are real!

    Magicka Templars are op. (Turns into a "can i outlast his heals")

    Magicka sorc are Balanced. (Turns into a "who can catch whom slipping and burst him down before he recovers from his mistake.)

    Other magicka nb are just annoying. "Lets both cloak and see who has more patience!"

    Stamina NB just eat me alive if i'm not all up on my toes.

    Stamina Sorc i just laugh at.

    Stamina Temp i laugh at till they kill me in 2-3 stab stab moves.

    All in all i say that is pretty balanced. I am op against certain class builds and get wrecked by others.

    For the DK, I feel your pain
    And everything you just said is absolutely true: I'm in a dueling guild and those things are exactly what happens to me during those duels

    "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
    Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU
  • AfkNinja
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    None of the Above
    Reeko wrote: »
    Stamina Temp i laugh at till they kill me in 2-3 stab stab moves.

    It hurts my heart that Stamina Templar has no identity and is reduced to spamming Biting Jabs or being laughed at.
  • Artis
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    LOL
    69% nightblades
    Nerf that class before its too late ZOS
    (I noticed half the none of tha above voters are the same people that goes around telling people to l2p and counter their so weak nbs hahaha)

    So? a few players with tons of CP who play NBs are OP. But there are others. For example, I suck. Most of us are not that great. So why would you nerf me? To make it even more frustrating? There are always outliers, but you can't balance the game around top 5% of the players.

    p.s. Cloak can be countered in so many ways, I can escape in maybe 40% of the cases tops. Mostly I get caught by any aoe or detect pots or magelight or I don't know what but they see me.
  • pjwb16_ESO
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    Artemis wrote: »
    LOL
    69% nightblades
    Nerf that class before its too late ZOS
    (I noticed half the none of tha above voters are the same people that goes around telling people to l2p and counter their so weak nbs hahaha)

    So? a few players with tons of CP who play NBs are OP. But there are others. For example, I suck. Most of us are not that great. So why would you nerf me? To make it even more frustrating? There are always outliers, but you can't balance the game around top 5% of the players.

    p.s. Cloak can be countered in so many ways, I can escape in maybe 40% of the cases tops. Mostly I get caught by any aoe or detect pots or magelight or I don't know what but they see me.

    maybe its your own fault that you are bad? aways searching excuses for being bad wont makes you better, but will result in forum qq which results in nerfs which results in eso decaying even more, we had a good game in 1.5 getting destroy by *** that refused to l2p


    (and the DK vote is satire!)
    Edited by pjwb16_ESO on October 30, 2015 11:00PM
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  • Prabooo
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    None of the Above
    STOP NERFING CLASSES !!!
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    None of the Above
    I think the only real problem people have with Nightblades is that PvPer care very little about health and armor most people drop all 64 points in magic or stamina then get mad cause they take so much Physical damage.

    You can't just pop a shield and get stamina back while eating physical damage like you can do with magic.
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  • Speely
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    None of the Above
    Yep. Give people freedom to build without softcaps and they will complain about being squishy when they min/max.
  • Aunatar
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    Nightblade
    Artemis wrote: »
    LOL
    69% nightblades
    Nerf that class before its too late ZOS
    (I noticed half the none of tha above voters are the same people that goes around telling people to l2p and counter their so weak nbs hahaha)

    So? a few players with tons of CP who play NBs are OP. But there are others. For example, I suck. Most of us are not that great. So why would you nerf me? To make it even more frustrating? There are always outliers, but you can't balance the game around top 5% of the players.

    p.s. Cloak can be countered in so many ways, I can escape in maybe 40% of the cases tops. Mostly I get caught by any aoe or detect pots or magelight or I don't know what but they see me.

    You suck? Ok, take all your NB's gear and put it in the bank, then pick some random (but still decent) gear and put it on.
    Now go on PvP and improve your skills with lower damage, lower healing, worse regen. Use different, weak or more expensive skills (go for puncture/low slash instead of surprise attack, go for invasion instead of ambush, force pulse instead of swallow soul/funnel health, avoid the use of cloak/fear to escape and CC, don't even slot them) and play like this for a week or two. You will learn the mechanics and forget about the OP skills (with higher tooltips, lower costs). Then go back to your bank and take the gear you had put away and wear it. Travel to Cyrodill and you'll see that you don't suck anymore, you'll kick arses instead.

    Having a OP class/skill can make you a bad, low skilled player, because you don't have to think, to know the mechanics, to time your rotation, to make the best of what you have; instead, you just "abuse" the fotm class/skill.

    This is something most of the players don't understand and they complain on the forum about their class because of it.
    My 2 cents.
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  • Cody
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    None of the Above
    Reeko wrote: »
    As a Magicka Nightblade, DK's are op. Stam or mag. Reflective scales are real!

    Magicka Templars are op. (Turns into a "can i outlast his heals")

    Magicka sorc are Balanced. (Turns into a "who can catch whom slipping and burst him down before he recovers from his mistake.)

    Other magicka nb are just annoying. "Lets both cloak and see who has more patience!"

    Stamina NB just eat me alive if i'm not all up on my toes.

    Stamina Sorc i just laugh at.

    Stamina Temp i laugh at till they kill me in 2-3 stab stab moves.

    All in all i say that is pretty balanced. I am op against certain class builds and get wrecked by others.
    Aunatar wrote: »
    Artemis wrote: »
    LOL
    69% nightblades
    Nerf that class before its too late ZOS
    (I noticed half the none of tha above voters are the same people that goes around telling people to l2p and counter their so weak nbs hahaha)

    So? a few players with tons of CP who play NBs are OP. But there are others. For example, I suck. Most of us are not that great. So why would you nerf me? To make it even more frustrating? There are always outliers, but you can't balance the game around top 5% of the players.

    p.s. Cloak can be countered in so many ways, I can escape in maybe 40% of the cases tops. Mostly I get caught by any aoe or detect pots or magelight or I don't know what but they see me.

    You suck? Ok, take all your NB's gear and put it in the bank, then pick some random (but still decent) gear and put it on.
    Now go on PvP and improve your skills with lower damage, lower healing, worse regen. Use different, weak or more expensive skills (go for puncture/low slash instead of surprise attack, go for invasion instead of ambush, force pulse instead of swallow soul/funnel health, avoid the use of cloak/fear to escape and CC, don't even slot them) and play like this for a week or two. You will learn the mechanics and forget about the OP skills (with higher tooltips, lower costs). Then go back to your bank and take the gear you had put away and wear it. Travel to Cyrodill and you'll see that you don't suck anymore, you'll kick arses instead.

    Having a OP class/skill can make you a bad, low skilled player, because you don't have to think, to know the mechanics, to time your rotation, to make the best of what you have; instead, you just "abuse" the fotm class/skill.

    This is something most of the players don't understand and they complain on the forum about their class because of it.
    My 2 cents.

    Have you even done the very thing you just told this person to do? Go ahead and try to play a NB without using cloak or fear. Return with your results
    Edited by Cody on October 31, 2015 2:56PM
  • usmcjdking
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    Nightblade
    Dear ZOS.

    Read literally every Call To Nerf thread for the past 8 weeks.

    Count how many people say "NERF TANKLARS" or "NERF DRAGON TANKS
    Cody wrote: »
    Reeko wrote: »
    As a Magicka Nightblade, DK's are op. Stam or mag. Reflective scales are real!

    Magicka Templars are op. (Turns into a "can i outlast his heals")

    Magicka sorc are Balanced. (Turns into a "who can catch whom slipping and burst him down before he recovers from his mistake.)

    Other magicka nb are just annoying. "Lets both cloak and see who has more patience!"

    Stamina NB just eat me alive if i'm not all up on my toes.

    Stamina Sorc i just laugh at.

    Stamina Temp i laugh at till they kill me in 2-3 stab stab moves.

    All in all i say that is pretty balanced. I am op against certain class builds and get wrecked by others.

    I cannot fight mana sorcs with my stamblade if said man
    Aunatar wrote: »
    Artemis wrote: »
    LOL
    69% nightblades
    Nerf that class before its too late ZOS
    (I noticed half the none of tha above voters are the same people that goes around telling people to l2p and counter their so weak nbs hahaha)

    So? a few players with tons of CP who play NBs are OP. But there are others. For example, I suck. Most of us are not that great. So why would you nerf me? To make it even more frustrating? There are always outliers, but you can't balance the game around top 5% of the players.

    p.s. Cloak can be countered in so many ways, I can escape in maybe 40% of the cases tops. Mostly I get caught by any aoe or detect pots or magelight or I don't know what but they see me.

    You suck? Ok, take all your NB's gear and put it in the bank, then pick some random (but still decent) gear and put it on.
    Now go on PvP and improve your skills with lower damage, lower healing, worse regen. Use different, weak or more expensive skills (go for puncture/low slash instead of surprise attack, go for invasion instead of ambush, force pulse instead of swallow soul/funnel health, avoid the use of cloak/fear to escape and CC, don't even slot them) and play like this for a week or two. You will learn the mechanics and forget about the OP skills (with higher tooltips, lower costs). Then go back to your bank and take the gear you had put away and wear it. Travel to Cyrodill and you'll see that you don't suck anymore, you'll kick arses instead.

    Having a OP class/skill can make you a bad, low skilled player, because you don't have to think, to know the mechanics, to time your rotation, to make the best of what you have; instead, you just "abuse" the fotm class/skill.

    This is something most of the players don't understand and they complain on the forum about their class because of it.
    My 2 cents.

    Have you even done the very thing you just told this person to do? Go ahead and try to play a NB without using cloak or fear. Return with your results

    I use neither.

    I do just fine. NBs have great skill synergies.
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  • Jura23
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    I wouldn't dare to say they are OP, but from 4 possibilities, the quest that takes me the longest time to complete is always: Kill 20 enemy sorcerers.
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  • pjwb16_ESO
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    Dragon Knight
    Jura23 wrote: »
    I wouldn't dare to say they are OP, but from 4 possibilities, the quest that takes me the longest time to complete is always: Kill 20 enemy sorcerers.

    the quest that takes longest to complete for me is DKs, because they got rare in cyro, would clearly say they are op

    lol
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  • Cody
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    None of the Above
    usmcjdking wrote: »
    Dear ZOS.

    Read literally every Call To Nerf thread for the past 8 weeks.

    Count how many people say "NERF TANKLARS" or "NERF DRAGON TANKS
    Cody wrote: »
    Reeko wrote: »
    As a Magicka Nightblade, DK's are op. Stam or mag. Reflective scales are real!

    Magicka Templars are op. (Turns into a "can i outlast his heals")

    Magicka sorc are Balanced. (Turns into a "who can catch whom slipping and burst him down before he recovers from his mistake.)

    Other magicka nb are just annoying. "Lets both cloak and see who has more patience!"

    Stamina NB just eat me alive if i'm not all up on my toes.

    Stamina Sorc i just laugh at.

    Stamina Temp i laugh at till they kill me in 2-3 stab stab moves.

    All in all i say that is pretty balanced. I am op against certain class builds and get wrecked by others.
    Aunatar wrote: »
    Artemis wrote: »
    LOL
    69% nightblades
    Nerf that class before its too late ZOS
    (I noticed half the none of tha above voters are the same people that goes around telling people to l2p and counter their so weak nbs hahaha)

    So? a few players with tons of CP who play NBs are OP. But there are others. For example, I suck. Most of us are not that great. So why would you nerf me? To make it even more frustrating? There are always outliers, but you can't balance the game around top 5% of the players.

    p.s. Cloak can be countered in so many ways, I can escape in maybe 40% of the cases tops. Mostly I get caught by any aoe or detect pots or magelight or I don't know what but they see me.

    You suck? Ok, take all your NB's gear and put it in the bank, then pick some random (but still decent) gear and put it on.
    Now go on PvP and improve your skills with lower damage, lower healing, worse regen. Use different, weak or more expensive skills (go for puncture/low slash instead of surprise attack, go for invasion instead of ambush, force pulse instead of swallow soul/funnel health, avoid the use of cloak/fear to escape and CC, don't even slot them) and play like this for a week or two. You will learn the mechanics and forget about the OP skills (with higher tooltips, lower costs). Then go back to your bank and take the gear you had put away and wear it. Travel to Cyrodill and you'll see that you don't suck anymore, you'll kick arses instead.

    Having a OP class/skill can make you a bad, low skilled player, because you don't have to think, to know the mechanics, to time your rotation, to make the best of what you have; instead, you just "abuse" the fotm class/skill.

    This is something most of the players don't understand and they complain on the forum about their class because of it.
    My 2 cents.

    Have you even done the very thing you just told this person to do? Go ahead and try to play a NB without using cloak or fear. Return with your results

    I use neither.

    I do just fine. NBs have great skill synergies.

    You must be using a mana blade with a resto staff. I highly doubt you can play a stamblade without cloak or fear.

    and i have been keeping up with the forums the past 8 weeks, not every single "call to nerf thread" was asking for Templar nerfs and DK nerfs. They're mostly calling for Sorcerer and NB nerfs
    Edited by Cody on October 31, 2015 2:57PM
  • Sezetcik
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    None of the Above
    Many people are mad that they are powned by some kind of class? But guess what! Every build has a counter build that can kill you easy, this isn't skyrim where you can become a demi-god. You're here just as strong as the rest and you should accept it. You can't counter everything.
  • DUTCH_REAPER
    DUTCH_REAPER
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    None of the Above
    Wow..check out the results. Who woulda thunk it?
  • Aunatar
    Aunatar
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    Nightblade
    Cody wrote: »
    Reeko wrote: »
    As a Magicka Nightblade, DK's are op. Stam or mag. Reflective scales are real!

    Magicka Templars are op. (Turns into a "can i outlast his heals")

    Magicka sorc are Balanced. (Turns into a "who can catch whom slipping and burst him down before he recovers from his mistake.)

    Other magicka nb are just annoying. "Lets both cloak and see who has more patience!"

    Stamina NB just eat me alive if i'm not all up on my toes.

    Stamina Sorc i just laugh at.

    Stamina Temp i laugh at till they kill me in 2-3 stab stab moves.

    All in all i say that is pretty balanced. I am op against certain class builds and get wrecked by others.
    Aunatar wrote: »
    Artemis wrote: »
    LOL
    69% nightblades
    Nerf that class before its too late ZOS
    (I noticed half the none of tha above voters are the same people that goes around telling people to l2p and counter their so weak nbs hahaha)

    So? a few players with tons of CP who play NBs are OP. But there are others. For example, I suck. Most of us are not that great. So why would you nerf me? To make it even more frustrating? There are always outliers, but you can't balance the game around top 5% of the players.

    p.s. Cloak can be countered in so many ways, I can escape in maybe 40% of the cases tops. Mostly I get caught by any aoe or detect pots or magelight or I don't know what but they see me.

    You suck? Ok, take all your NB's gear and put it in the bank, then pick some random (but still decent) gear and put it on.
    Now go on PvP and improve your skills with lower damage, lower healing, worse regen. Use different, weak or more expensive skills (go for puncture/low slash instead of surprise attack, go for invasion instead of ambush, force pulse instead of swallow soul/funnel health, avoid the use of cloak/fear to escape and CC, don't even slot them) and play like this for a week or two. You will learn the mechanics and forget about the OP skills (with higher tooltips, lower costs). Then go back to your bank and take the gear you had put away and wear it. Travel to Cyrodill and you'll see that you don't suck anymore, you'll kick arses instead.

    Having a OP class/skill can make you a bad, low skilled player, because you don't have to think, to know the mechanics, to time your rotation, to make the best of what you have; instead, you just "abuse" the fotm class/skill.

    This is something most of the players don't understand and they complain on the forum about their class because of it.
    My 2 cents.

    Have you even done the very thing you just told this person to do? Go ahead and try to play a NB without using cloak or fear. Return with your results

    I have 4 veteran characters (Sorcerer, stamina and magicka DK, stamina NB) and I frequently play on all of them, but I spend most of my time on a stamina DK using sword and shield, Heroic slash as main dps. The only skills i use from the DK skill tree are Igneous Shield and Take Flight. Stamina NB have a wonderful ultimate that costs 50 and has all the buffs/debuffs you need, plus many other utility skills that he could use like rentless focus, passives are impressive too.
    When I first approached to stamina in 1.7 I geared with green quality gear with bad traits, V14, because I wanted to learn the mechanics, how to manage my resources with the increased cost, how to manage my healing with low weapon dmg and max stamina. I have a very good 1vX build ready for when Orsinium comes, but I am still playing with my awful gear (34k stamina, 2k weapon damage when BUFFED) and I'm pretty decent with it. But even if I was bad the first days, I LEARNT it and now I win most of my fights, even outnumbered.
    And since NB's have much better passives and I'm not even using scales at the moment, I can say I tried it and this is a sincere advice.
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  • usmcjdking
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    Nightblade
    Cody wrote: »
    usmcjdking wrote: »
    Dear ZOS.

    Read literally every Call To Nerf thread for the past 8 weeks.

    Count how many people say "NERF TANKLARS" or "NERF DRAGON TANKS
    Cody wrote: »
    Reeko wrote: »
    As a Magicka Nightblade, DK's are op. Stam or mag. Reflective scales are real!

    Magicka Templars are op. (Turns into a "can i outlast his heals")

    Magicka sorc are Balanced. (Turns into a "who can catch whom slipping and burst him down before he recovers from his mistake.)

    Other magicka nb are just annoying. "Lets both cloak and see who has more patience!"

    Stamina NB just eat me alive if i'm not all up on my toes.

    Stamina Sorc i just laugh at.

    Stamina Temp i laugh at till they kill me in 2-3 stab stab moves.

    All in all i say that is pretty balanced. I am op against certain class builds and get wrecked by others.
    Aunatar wrote: »
    Artemis wrote: »
    LOL
    69% nightblades
    Nerf that class before its too late ZOS
    (I noticed half the none of tha above voters are the same people that goes around telling people to l2p and counter their so weak nbs hahaha)

    So? a few players with tons of CP who play NBs are OP. But there are others. For example, I suck. Most of us are not that great. So why would you nerf me? To make it even more frustrating? There are always outliers, but you can't balance the game around top 5% of the players.

    p.s. Cloak can be countered in so many ways, I can escape in maybe 40% of the cases tops. Mostly I get caught by any aoe or detect pots or magelight or I don't know what but they see me.

    You suck? Ok, take all your NB's gear and put it in the bank, then pick some random (but still decent) gear and put it on.
    Now go on PvP and improve your skills with lower damage, lower healing, worse regen. Use different, weak or more expensive skills (go for puncture/low slash instead of surprise attack, go for invasion instead of ambush, force pulse instead of swallow soul/funnel health, avoid the use of cloak/fear to escape and CC, don't even slot them) and play like this for a week or two. You will learn the mechanics and forget about the OP skills (with higher tooltips, lower costs). Then go back to your bank and take the gear you had put away and wear it. Travel to Cyrodill and you'll see that you don't suck anymore, you'll kick arses instead.

    Having a OP class/skill can make you a bad, low skilled player, because you don't have to think, to know the mechanics, to time your rotation, to make the best of what you have; instead, you just "abuse" the fotm class/skill.

    This is something most of the players don't understand and they complain on the forum about their class because of it.
    My 2 cents.

    Have you even done the very thing you just told this person to do? Go ahead and try to play a NB without using cloak or fear. Return with your results

    I use neither.

    I do just fine. NBs have great skill synergies.

    You must be using a mana blade with a resto staff. I highly doubt you can play a stamblade without cloak or fear.

    and i have been keeping up with the forums the past 8 weeks, not every single "call to nerf thread" was asking for Templar nerfs and DK nerfs. They're mostly calling for Sorcerer and NB nerfs

    No.

    Tank. Utilizing the good ol' regenerate 7k HP every 2 seconds with skills that cost almost no resources strategy.
    Edited by usmcjdking on October 31, 2015 8:00PM
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  • Cody
    Cody
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    None of the Above
    usmcjdking wrote: »
    Cody wrote: »
    usmcjdking wrote: »
    Dear ZOS.

    Read literally every Call To Nerf thread for the past 8 weeks.

    Count how many people say "NERF TANKLARS" or "NERF DRAGON TANKS
    Cody wrote: »
    Reeko wrote: »
    As a Magicka Nightblade, DK's are op. Stam or mag. Reflective scales are real!

    Magicka Templars are op. (Turns into a "can i outlast his heals")

    Magicka sorc are Balanced. (Turns into a "who can catch whom slipping and burst him down before he recovers from his mistake.)

    Other magicka nb are just annoying. "Lets both cloak and see who has more patience!"

    Stamina NB just eat me alive if i'm not all up on my toes.

    Stamina Sorc i just laugh at.

    Stamina Temp i laugh at till they kill me in 2-3 stab stab moves.

    All in all i say that is pretty balanced. I am op against certain class builds and get wrecked by others.
    Aunatar wrote: »
    Artemis wrote: »
    LOL
    69% nightblades
    Nerf that class before its too late ZOS
    (I noticed half the none of tha above voters are the same people that goes around telling people to l2p and counter their so weak nbs hahaha)

    So? a few players with tons of CP who play NBs are OP. But there are others. For example, I suck. Most of us are not that great. So why would you nerf me? To make it even more frustrating? There are always outliers, but you can't balance the game around top 5% of the players.

    p.s. Cloak can be countered in so many ways, I can escape in maybe 40% of the cases tops. Mostly I get caught by any aoe or detect pots or magelight or I don't know what but they see me.

    You suck? Ok, take all your NB's gear and put it in the bank, then pick some random (but still decent) gear and put it on.
    Now go on PvP and improve your skills with lower damage, lower healing, worse regen. Use different, weak or more expensive skills (go for puncture/low slash instead of surprise attack, go for invasion instead of ambush, force pulse instead of swallow soul/funnel health, avoid the use of cloak/fear to escape and CC, don't even slot them) and play like this for a week or two. You will learn the mechanics and forget about the OP skills (with higher tooltips, lower costs). Then go back to your bank and take the gear you had put away and wear it. Travel to Cyrodill and you'll see that you don't suck anymore, you'll kick arses instead.

    Having a OP class/skill can make you a bad, low skilled player, because you don't have to think, to know the mechanics, to time your rotation, to make the best of what you have; instead, you just "abuse" the fotm class/skill.

    This is something most of the players don't understand and they complain on the forum about their class because of it.
    My 2 cents.

    Have you even done the very thing you just told this person to do? Go ahead and try to play a NB without using cloak or fear. Return with your results

    I use neither.

    I do just fine. NBs have great skill synergies.

    You must be using a mana blade with a resto staff. I highly doubt you can play a stamblade without cloak or fear.

    and i have been keeping up with the forums the past 8 weeks, not every single "call to nerf thread" was asking for Templar nerfs and DK nerfs. They're mostly calling for Sorcerer and NB nerfs

    No.

    Tank. Utilizing the good ol' regenerate 7k HP every 2 seconds with skills that cost almost no resources strategy.

    Well good for you. 7K Hp every 2 seconds almost makes you invincible if used right. I wonder how long it will be until someone accuses you of hacking
    Edited by Cody on October 31, 2015 9:28PM
  • Artis
    Artis
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    Sorcerer
    pjwb16_ESO wrote: »
    Artemis wrote: »
    LOL
    69% nightblades
    Nerf that class before its too late ZOS
    (I noticed half the none of tha above voters are the same people that goes around telling people to l2p and counter their so weak nbs hahaha)

    So? a few players with tons of CP who play NBs are OP. But there are others. For example, I suck. Most of us are not that great. So why would you nerf me? To make it even more frustrating? There are always outliers, but you can't balance the game around top 5% of the players.

    p.s. Cloak can be countered in so many ways, I can escape in maybe 40% of the cases tops. Mostly I get caught by any aoe or detect pots or magelight or I don't know what but they see me.

    maybe its your own fault that you are bad? aways searching excuses for being bad wont makes you better, but will result in forum qq which results in nerfs which results in eso decaying even more, we had a good game in 1.5 getting destroy by *** that refused to l2p


    (and the DK vote is satire!)

    I never said it was someone else's fault that I'm bad. Did you even *** read the post?
    And no matter how good one is, any aoe, detect pots, magelight will still reveal him from stealth.There is nothing to nerf, cloak can be countered in so many ways already.
  • temjiu
    temjiu
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    None of the Above
    Rogue is overpowered. Cause they do it from behind.
  • pjwb16_ESO
    pjwb16_ESO
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    Dragon Knight
    Artemis wrote: »
    pjwb16_ESO wrote: »
    Artemis wrote: »
    LOL
    69% nightblades
    Nerf that class before its too late ZOS
    (I noticed half the none of tha above voters are the same people that goes around telling people to l2p and counter their so weak nbs hahaha)

    So? a few players with tons of CP who play NBs are OP. But there are others. For example, I suck. Most of us are not that great. So why would you nerf me? To make it even more frustrating? There are always outliers, but you can't balance the game around top 5% of the players.

    p.s. Cloak can be countered in so many ways, I can escape in maybe 40% of the cases tops. Mostly I get caught by any aoe or detect pots or magelight or I don't know what but they see me.

    maybe its your own fault that you are bad? aways searching excuses for being bad wont makes you better, but will result in forum qq which results in nerfs which results in eso decaying even more, we had a good game in 1.5 getting destroy by *** that refused to l2p


    (and the DK vote is satire!)

    I never said it was someone else's fault that I'm bad. Did you even *** read the post?
    And no matter how good one is, any aoe, detect pots, magelight will still reveal him from stealth.There is nothing to nerf, cloak can be countered in so many ways already.

    I never said to nerf sth lol, Did you even *** read the post?
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  • jebuspowers
    jebuspowers
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    Sooooo can we nerf the nerfs?
  • usmcjdking
    usmcjdking
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    Nightblade
    Cody wrote: »
    usmcjdking wrote: »
    Cody wrote: »
    usmcjdking wrote: »
    Dear ZOS.

    Read literally every Call To Nerf thread for the past 8 weeks.

    Count how many people say "NERF TANKLARS" or "NERF DRAGON TANKS
    Cody wrote: »
    Reeko wrote: »
    As a Magicka Nightblade, DK's are op. Stam or mag. Reflective scales are real!

    Magicka Templars are op. (Turns into a "can i outlast his heals")

    Magicka sorc are Balanced. (Turns into a "who can catch whom slipping and burst him down before he recovers from his mistake.)

    Other magicka nb are just annoying. "Lets both cloak and see who has more patience!"

    Stamina NB just eat me alive if i'm not all up on my toes.

    Stamina Sorc i just laugh at.

    Stamina Temp i laugh at till they kill me in 2-3 stab stab moves.

    All in all i say that is pretty balanced. I am op against certain class builds and get wrecked by others.
    Aunatar wrote: »
    Artemis wrote: »
    LOL
    69% nightblades
    Nerf that class before its too late ZOS
    (I noticed half the none of tha above voters are the same people that goes around telling people to l2p and counter their so weak nbs hahaha)

    So? a few players with tons of CP who play NBs are OP. But there are others. For example, I suck. Most of us are not that great. So why would you nerf me? To make it even more frustrating? There are always outliers, but you can't balance the game around top 5% of the players.

    p.s. Cloak can be countered in so many ways, I can escape in maybe 40% of the cases tops. Mostly I get caught by any aoe or detect pots or magelight or I don't know what but they see me.

    You suck? Ok, take all your NB's gear and put it in the bank, then pick some random (but still decent) gear and put it on.
    Now go on PvP and improve your skills with lower damage, lower healing, worse regen. Use different, weak or more expensive skills (go for puncture/low slash instead of surprise attack, go for invasion instead of ambush, force pulse instead of swallow soul/funnel health, avoid the use of cloak/fear to escape and CC, don't even slot them) and play like this for a week or two. You will learn the mechanics and forget about the OP skills (with higher tooltips, lower costs). Then go back to your bank and take the gear you had put away and wear it. Travel to Cyrodill and you'll see that you don't suck anymore, you'll kick arses instead.

    Having a OP class/skill can make you a bad, low skilled player, because you don't have to think, to know the mechanics, to time your rotation, to make the best of what you have; instead, you just "abuse" the fotm class/skill.

    This is something most of the players don't understand and they complain on the forum about their class because of it.
    My 2 cents.

    Have you even done the very thing you just told this person to do? Go ahead and try to play a NB without using cloak or fear. Return with your results

    I use neither.

    I do just fine. NBs have great skill synergies.

    You must be using a mana blade with a resto staff. I highly doubt you can play a stamblade without cloak or fear.

    and i have been keeping up with the forums the past 8 weeks, not every single "call to nerf thread" was asking for Templar nerfs and DK nerfs. They're mostly calling for Sorcerer and NB nerfs

    No.

    Tank. Utilizing the good ol' regenerate 7k HP every 2 seconds with skills that cost almost no resources strategy.

    Well good for you. 7K Hp every 2 seconds almost makes you invincible if used right. I wonder how long it will be until someone accuses you of hacking
    Cody wrote: »
    usmcjdking wrote: »
    Cody wrote: »
    usmcjdking wrote: »
    Dear ZOS.

    Read literally every Call To Nerf thread for the past 8 weeks.

    Count how many people say "NERF TANKLARS" or "NERF DRAGON TANKS
    Cody wrote: »
    Reeko wrote: »
    As a Magicka Nightblade, DK's are op. Stam or mag. Reflective scales are real!

    Magicka Templars are op. (Turns into a "can i outlast his heals")

    Magicka sorc are Balanced. (Turns into a "who can catch whom slipping and burst him down before he recovers from his mistake.)

    Other magicka nb are just annoying. "Lets both cloak and see who has more patience!"

    Stamina NB just eat me alive if i'm not all up on my toes.

    Stamina Sorc i just laugh at.

    Stamina Temp i laugh at till they kill me in 2-3 stab stab moves.

    All in all i say that is pretty balanced. I am op against certain class builds and get wrecked by others.
    Aunatar wrote: »
    Artemis wrote: »
    LOL
    69% nightblades
    Nerf that class before its too late ZOS
    (I noticed half the none of tha above voters are the same people that goes around telling people to l2p and counter their so weak nbs hahaha)

    So? a few players with tons of CP who play NBs are OP. But there are others. For example, I suck. Most of us are not that great. So why would you nerf me? To make it even more frustrating? There are always outliers, but you can't balance the game around top 5% of the players.

    p.s. Cloak can be countered in so many ways, I can escape in maybe 40% of the cases tops. Mostly I get caught by any aoe or detect pots or magelight or I don't know what but they see me.

    You suck? Ok, take all your NB's gear and put it in the bank, then pick some random (but still decent) gear and put it on.
    Now go on PvP and improve your skills with lower damage, lower healing, worse regen. Use different, weak or more expensive skills (go for puncture/low slash instead of surprise attack, go for invasion instead of ambush, force pulse instead of swallow soul/funnel health, avoid the use of cloak/fear to escape and CC, don't even slot them) and play like this for a week or two. You will learn the mechanics and forget about the OP skills (with higher tooltips, lower costs). Then go back to your bank and take the gear you had put away and wear it. Travel to Cyrodill and you'll see that you don't suck anymore, you'll kick arses instead.

    Having a OP class/skill can make you a bad, low skilled player, because you don't have to think, to know the mechanics, to time your rotation, to make the best of what you have; instead, you just "abuse" the fotm class/skill.

    This is something most of the players don't understand and they complain on the forum about their class because of it.
    My 2 cents.

    Have you even done the very thing you just told this person to do? Go ahead and try to play a NB without using cloak or fear. Return with your results

    I use neither.

    I do just fine. NBs have great skill synergies.

    You must be using a mana blade with a resto staff. I highly doubt you can play a stamblade without cloak or fear.

    and i have been keeping up with the forums the past 8 weeks, not every single "call to nerf thread" was asking for Templar nerfs and DK nerfs. They're mostly calling for Sorcerer and NB nerfs

    No.

    Tank. Utilizing the good ol' regenerate 7k HP every 2 seconds with skills that cost almost no resources strategy.

    Well good for you. 7K Hp every 2 seconds almost makes you invincible if used right. I wonder how long it will be until someone accuses you of hacking

    LOL, trust me, I've heard it all. Being a V1 that can just waltz into a giant mob of players and survive (ty spectre set) can net me funny tells.

    I have put fear on my bar as I was struggling a LOT with magicka Templars.

    Fear seems to have solved the issue.

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    0602
  • Michal65
    Michal65
    Soul Shriven
    Sorcerer

    ZOS will never weaken a Sorc or Nb. ZOS would *** on 80% of all players. That is also the reason why I play no nb or sorc. I prefer to learn to adapt my game ..and it is easy if you know 8/10 players are Sorcs or Nb. (sets skills weapons) and all play the same *** build from youtube its funny ..more nerf is not possible:D.. i love my hate messages: D
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