HighT3chR3dn3ck wrote: »
Mate, i was there and i know everyone wanted to be jedi. FFS who dont want to be one when playing star wars game? But how can you say that players demanded NGO kind of changes is beyond me.
FYI i dont agree with punishing people for going in groups but AOE cap is absurd and must go.
Uhm... I was a bounty hunter and I LOVED KILLING JEDI. I only unlocked my force sensitivity so I could add to my skills as a BH. Death to the Jedi.
Anyway, sorry my Imperial side took over there. That's just it though, ANYONE COULD BE JEDI IF THEY PUT IN THE WORK. It was a lot of work not just to get a Jedi, but to level a Jedi as well BC if you died you lost a TON of XP. It was a fabulous Cost vs. Reward system that was somewhat buggy when it was implemented, but I was always on those bounty boards looking to take someone down. I never at any point during playing that game had a desire to be a Jedi.
Jedi = NGE because it was the pinnacle decision to completely over simplify and completely change fundamental gameplay mechanics. Again people wanted thing easy and simple and they got it in spades. It's not a "slippery-slope" in gaming is a mother-F@#!-ing log flume.
HighT3chR3dn3ck wrote: »The cause of this? Every person wanted to be a Jedi. However, according to lore, Jedi were to be SUPER rare, and beyond that they were to be hunted by Bounty Hunters. I loved hunting Jedi. Essentially, everyone wants to be a badass without any work. Everyone believes THEY DESERVE to be a badass. Well, just remember, they don't.
It should never be about listen to the players, or don't listen to the players. It should be about always listening to the players, and making informed decisions based on the best of professional experience/intuition, player feedback, and reality.
I'm really glad this was brought up. ZOS, I would like a Jedi class in ESO please.
HighT3chR3dn3ck wrote: »Eventually a huge update was released in which it completely changed the game into something unrecognizable and almost less than a year later the game went offline.
Knootewoot wrote: »
HighT3chR3dn3ck wrote: »I love the assumptions made thus far.
Firstly, the VAST majority of the community (which is not restricted to your guild, and the elite players) wanted their Jedi character, and wanted it now. On top of that, so many people were frustrated by the complexity of the combat and class system (sound familiar) they cried out for a major overhaul; So we got the NGE.
I was there too bra. Very active on the forums, and I remember. Then NGE hit, and of course it's easy to say you were on the right side of history after the fact, but the truth is most weren't. They wanted it, and once they got it they realized their sins.
I must say, it's no wonder the devs probably stay out these forums as much as possible. How many stories and assumptions were made up about me (being a dev) in the last several posts about my PvP play style (almost no AoE and actually about 50/50 on group and solo bc I love to do both). I have about 140 champion points and I feel like an effective member that part of the team. Not running the show. I hate to group lead. However, I use my skills effectively, understand my class and how it plays. My job is to harass, confuse, and support those around me; not to be a badass swinging an axe in a group of 5 enemies. This is all you want, admit it.
I mean these developers put out an EXCEPTIONAL game, that as far as I can tell has been well supported and tweaked nicely up to this point. The hate and anger derived to them is REDICULOUS. All I can say, is that the game has been getting better since I've been playing it; with the exception of the IC. This messed with the alliance war numbers to much in my opinion and should be a completely separate zone/server. However, I do have every confidence that this will be remedied and some point over the next year.
Next, AoE zerg? Then maybe you should get some healers bra. If you're getting wrecked over, then guess what bra? Your team blows. 99% of the time lag is not an issue for me, and I'm on satellite so you might wanna get off your dial-up son.
DPS, Tanking, AoE, Healing, etc... there's a reason this game has classes. So people have to work together to be an effective team and steamroll anyone that's not in a group or working together. If you can't handle that then go play with yourself.timidobserver wrote: »I don't really understand comparing the colossal, sweeping, full game altering changes that came with NGE in SWG to making zergs less effective in ESO.
Then you have no understanding of gaming fundamentals. Teamwork is a fundamental of gameplay, to change this would fundamentally change how people play the game as much as NGE. Furthermore, people didn't fully understand how NGE would change the game either. They only focused on what they would gain, not what they would lose.
P.S. If I was a dev, you can believe I would've shut down at least half the threads out there right now because they are moronic, hateful, and/or toxic. You want me to clean up the forum ZoS? You just let me know.
dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »