I dont have any set - edit: pls recommend me some, I use my own magicka/stamina build

altemriel · October 2015

I dont have any set, I use my own magicka/stamina build, yesterday one player told me it is best to have a set crafted, according to your build.

Is there any set, that increases magica and stamina?

TiberX · October 2015

http://tamrieljournal.com/crafted-item-sets-eso/

Yes, craft a set pls

and choose between magica and stamina, dont go for both, trust me.

altemriel · October 2015

why is it better to choose one of them an not go for both?

TiberX · October 2015

its a looong story, but check this site :

http://tamrielfoundry.com/

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

altemriel wrote: »

why is it better to choose one of them an not go for both?

If you choose to use both that is your choice, and if it doesn't work for you you can choose 1 or the other. If it does work for you then more power to ya!

As for a set that increases both Magicka and Stamina the 2-4 piece bonuses of the craftable sets Way of the Arena and Twice-Born Star each increase Health, Magicka, and Stamina collectively and the dropped set Stygian increases both Magicka and Stamina as well as Spell Damage. Beyond that I know of no set that increases both Magicka and Stamina.

MrDerrikk · October 2015

altemriel wrote: »

I dont have any set, I use my own magicka/stamina build, yesterday one player told me it is best to have a set crafted, according to your build.

Is there any set, that increases magica and stamina?

Hybrid builds are quite difficult to make worth it, so you're much better off focusing on one of the resources and getting armor that matches that. What weight of armor do you use most importantly? This is important to determine if you go with the passives that relate to each resource.

altemriel · October 2015

edit: I play altmer DK, I mostly play dps style, but sometimes also tanky

and yes, I am a combinator

I did not do any google research about builds nor sets, but I play as it goes and I use skills that seem to have the greatest impact for me, I have only armor and weapons that I got from drops. I have high alchemy and provisioning, also enchanting. I am maxing up my blacksmithing and leatherworking recently.

MrDerrikk wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

I dont have any set, I use my own magicka/stamina build, yesterday one player told me it is best to have a set crafted, according to your build.

Is there any set, that increases magica and stamina?

Hybrid builds are quite difficult to make worth it, so you're much better off focusing on one of the resources and getting armor that matches that. What weight of armor do you use most importantly? This is important to determine if you go with the passives that relate to each resource.

all my armor is heavy armor, I have all pieces of it and also the jevelery enchanted to increase health and health recovery. I have one part of the build for two handed and one part of the build for destro staff.
I mostly use these skills:
two handed:
wrecking blow, edit: soul trap, hardened armor, edit: inhale, green dragon blood, dragonleap ultimate,

destro staff:
degeneration, destructive clench, stone shield, rapid maneuver, green dragon blood, ultimate dragon leap

two handed greatsword - I have a greatsword 900 + 300 magic dmg on daedras or undead
two handed axe 920 + 200 fire (edit: now higher dmg)
destro staff 920 +200 fire (edit: now higher dmg)

Marrtha · October 2015

Hybrid builds got their love with the introduction of tri-stat glyphs. As the boons are getting buffed I would recommended going for the twice-born star crafted set. There is way to make it work out. Just mix and match. It's not that hard

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

altemriel wrote: »

I did not do any google research about builds nor sets, but I play as it goes and I use skills that seem to have the greatest impact for me, I have only armor and weapons that I got from drops. I have high alchemy and provisioning, also enchanting. I am maxing up my blacksmithing and leatherworking recently.

MrDerrikk wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

I dont have any set, I use my own magicka/stamina build, yesterday one player told me it is best to have a set crafted, according to your build.

Is there any set, that increases magica and stamina?

Hybrid builds are quite difficult to make worth it, so you're much better off focusing on one of the resources and getting armor that matches that. What weight of armor do you use most importantly? This is important to determine if you go with the passives that relate to each resource.

all my armor is heavy armor, I have all pieces of it and also the jevelery enchanted to increase health and health recovery. I have one part of the build for two handed and one part of the build for destro staff.
I mostly use these skills:
two handed:
wrecking blow, fill soulgem, hardened armor, rally, green dragon blood, dragonleap ultimate,

destro staff:
degeneration, destructive clench, stone shield, rapid maneuver, green dragon blood, ultimate dragon leap

two handed greatsword - I have a greatsword 900 + 300 magic dmg on daedras or undead
two handed axe 920 + 200 fire
destro staff 920 +200 fire

You mean Soul Trap lol

Also that is a relatively interesting build I must say (also your Sword is called the Prismatic Weapon from the Fighter's Guild questline) but you know, buffs can be activated on one skill bar and remain even if you weapon swap provided they are not a toggle like Magelight. Also it sounds like you wish to be a Tank based on your build's design and theme. Also if I may inquire why the same Ultimate on both bars?

teladoy · October 2015

This question is is is is really noob. Did you ever played a mmo in your life? Sets are not just important because they can boost your stamina or magicka, they give you special thing when you complete one, that are very very useful depending what you do.

Also the bonifications make you very very more stronger.

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

teladoy wrote: »

This question is is is is really noob. Did you ever played a mmo in your life? Sets are not just important because they can boost your stamina or magicka, they give you special thing when you complete one, that are very very useful depending what you do.

Also the bonifications make you very very more stronger.

Don't judge the guy for just looking at the 2-4 piece bonuses. Maybe he prefers those over the 5-piece bonuses and that's perfectly fine and his choice.

altemriel · October 2015

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

I did not do any google research about builds nor sets, but I play as it goes and I use skills that seem to have the greatest impact for me, I have only armor and weapons that I got from drops. I have high alchemy and provisioning, also enchanting. I am maxing up my blacksmithing and leatherworking recently.

MrDerrikk wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

I dont have any set, I use my own magicka/stamina build, yesterday one player told me it is best to have a set crafted, according to your build.

Is there any set, that increases magica and stamina?

Hybrid builds are quite difficult to make worth it, so you're much better off focusing on one of the resources and getting armor that matches that. What weight of armor do you use most importantly? This is important to determine if you go with the passives that relate to each resource.

all my armor is heavy armor, I have all pieces of it and also the jevelery enchanted to increase health and health recovery. I have one part of the build for two handed and one part of the build for destro staff.
I mostly use these skills:
two handed:
wrecking blow, fill soulgem, hardened armor, rally, green dragon blood, dragonleap ultimate,

destro staff:
degeneration, destructive clench, stone shield, rapid maneuver, green dragon blood, ultimate dragon leap

two handed greatsword - I have a greatsword 900 + 300 magic dmg on daedras or undead
two handed axe 920 + 200 fire
destro staff 920 +200 fire

You mean Soul Trap lol

Also that is a relatively interesting build I must say (also your Sword is called the Prismatic Weapon from the Fighter's Guild questline) but you know, buffs can be activated on one skill bar and remain even if you weapon swap provided they are not a toggle like Magelight. Also it sounds like you wish to be a Tank based on your build's design and theme. Also if I may inquire why the same Ultimate on both bars?

yes, sould trap

,

prismatic blade, yes, but not from the guild, I have found it in one burned house in cyrodiil, with 3 vampires around it

, ...but now I am not sure, I had two swords like that, I am not sure if this second one is from that cyrodiil house, or if it was the first one, I am not sure where I got the second one, might be from fighters guild, earth forge

yes, I usually, swap weapons and use hardened armor, stone shield, rapid maneuver (I have actually charging maneuver), I heal myself if needed with rally, green dragon blood, when too much dmg taken, then potion (I have alchemy around 30, I can craft 5000 + health + 5000 stamina + 5000 magica + weapon crit potions)

I did not do any analysis if tank or dps, I am usually in the front of the battlefield, I usually do PVE, PVP only sometimes. I use two handed axe, when with daeadras or undead, prismatic blade. sometimes I switch to destro staff

altemriel · October 2015

teladoy wrote: »

This question is is is is really noob. Did you ever played a mmo in your life? Sets are not just important because they can boost your stamina or magicka, they give you special thing when you complete one, that are very very useful depending what you do.

Also the bonifications make you very very more stronger.

well, I admit that this is my first mmo that I play. that is why I am writting it, maybe people can recommend me some set for hybrid build

Brrrofski · October 2015

Thing is, the higher your magics, the more damage those skills do. Same with stamina.

Bu mixing and matching you're gimping yourself.

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

altemriel wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

I did not do any google research about builds nor sets, but I play as it goes and I use skills that seem to have the greatest impact for me, I have only armor and weapons that I got from drops. I have high alchemy and provisioning, also enchanting. I am maxing up my blacksmithing and leatherworking recently.

MrDerrikk wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

I dont have any set, I use my own magicka/stamina build, yesterday one player told me it is best to have a set crafted, according to your build.

Is there any set, that increases magica and stamina?

Hybrid builds are quite difficult to make worth it, so you're much better off focusing on one of the resources and getting armor that matches that. What weight of armor do you use most importantly? This is important to determine if you go with the passives that relate to each resource.

all my armor is heavy armor, I have all pieces of it and also the jevelery enchanted to increase health and health recovery. I have one part of the build for two handed and one part of the build for destro staff.
I mostly use these skills:
two handed:
wrecking blow, fill soulgem, hardened armor, rally, green dragon blood, dragonleap ultimate,

destro staff:
degeneration, destructive clench, stone shield, rapid maneuver, green dragon blood, ultimate dragon leap

two handed greatsword - I have a greatsword 900 + 300 magic dmg on daedras or undead
two handed axe 920 + 200 fire
destro staff 920 +200 fire

You mean Soul Trap lol

Also that is a relatively interesting build I must say (also your Sword is called the Prismatic Weapon from the Fighter's Guild questline) but you know, buffs can be activated on one skill bar and remain even if you weapon swap provided they are not a toggle like Magelight. Also it sounds like you wish to be a Tank based on your build's design and theme. Also if I may inquire why the same Ultimate on both bars?

yes, sould trap ,

prismatic blade, yes, but not from the guild, I have found it in one burned house in cyrodiil, with 3 vampires around it , ...but now I am not sure, I had two swords like that, I am not sure if this second one is from that cyrodiil house, or if it was the first one, I am not sure where I got the second one, might be from fighters guild, earth forge

yes, I usually, swap weapons and use hardened armor, stone shield, rapid maneuver (I have actually charging maneuver), I heal myself if needed with rally, green dragon blood, when too much dmg taken, then potion (I have alchemy around 30, I can craft 5000 + health + 5000 stamina + 5000 magica + weapon crit potions)

I did not do any analysis if tank or dps, I am usually in the front of the battlefield, I usually do PVE, PVP only sometimes. I use two handed axe, when with daeadras or undead, prismatic blade. sometimes I switch to destro staff

So you've been looting in IC and such then I see lol but anyway what I was getting at with the same buffs and ultimate on each bar is you could improve your versitility by putting them on just 1 and weapon swapping as need be to use them. It may take a moment to do so and you could be unable due to crowd control and the like but it also has its pros for doing so.

altemriel · October 2015

ok, question:

what hybrid set would you recommend for my build/weapons combination?

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

altemriel wrote: »

ok, question:

what hybrid set would you recommend for my build/weapons combination?

It honestly depends on if you feel something is lacking. If not, try something new and experiment. For example, how about a multi-target Stamina attack in place of GDB on your 2h? Brawler, a morph of Cleave, is decent, gives you a damage shield and strengthens it for each enemy hit. You could also try Critical Rush, a morph of Critical Charge, which is a charging attack that does increased damage the further you travel while charging. Just some examples, but basically browse around and see how you can expand your horizon.

altemriel · October 2015

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. Also if I may inquire why the same Ultimate on both bars?[/quote]

well simply because I only can use one ultimate at a time and standard is not so good, this one is better, I am waiting for dawn breaker

Brrrofski · October 2015

Magma armor is an awesome ultimate.

When things are going sour, you get 8 seconds where you are pretty much invincible.

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

altemriel wrote: »

well simply because I only can use one ultimate at a time and standard is not so good, this one is better, I am waiting for dawn breaker

Understandable, but as Brrrofski said Magma Armor is an amazing Ultimate for a Tank. It even has a morph, Corrosive Armor, that while active allows you to ignore all of your target's Physical and Spell Resistance! Sure it only lasts several seconds or so but that alone offers you plenty of time. Between that, damaging enemies near you, and capping all damage you take to a very small portion it easily rivals Dragon Leap. As for Dragonknight Standard I share your opinion that it does not really compare to the other 2 from the Dragonknight Skill Lines but it isn't a bad skill and there are some who use it so to those people please do not think I am putting it down lol

altemriel · October 2015

Brrrofski wrote: »

Magma armor is an awesome ultimate.

When things are going sour, you get 8 seconds where you are pretty much invincible.

thank you for info, I will check that out.

Brrrofski · October 2015

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

well simply because I only can use one ultimate at a time and standard is not so good, this one is better, I am waiting for dawn breaker

Understandable, but as Brrrofski said Magma Armor is an amazing Ultimate for a Tank. It even has a morph, Corrosive Armor, that while active allows you to ignore all of your target's Physical and Spell Resistance! Sure it only lasts several seconds or so but that alone offers you plenty of time. Between that, damaging enemies near you, and capping all damage you take to a very small portion it easily rivals Dragon Leap. As for Dragonknight Standard I share your opinion that it does not really compare to the other 2 from the Dragonknight Skill Lines but it isn't a bad skill and there are some who use it so to those people please do not think I am putting it down lol

I've lost count how many times when doing dungeons going through the bet ranks how many times it stopped a wipe.

Stick it on and get a res or two

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

Brrrofski wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

well simply because I only can use one ultimate at a time and standard is not so good, this one is better, I am waiting for dawn breaker

Understandable, but as Brrrofski said Magma Armor is an amazing Ultimate for a Tank. It even has a morph, Corrosive Armor, that while active allows you to ignore all of your target's Physical and Spell Resistance! Sure it only lasts several seconds or so but that alone offers you plenty of time. Between that, damaging enemies near you, and capping all damage you take to a very small portion it easily rivals Dragon Leap. As for Dragonknight Standard I share your opinion that it does not really compare to the other 2 from the Dragonknight Skill Lines but it isn't a bad skill and there are some who use it so to those people please do not think I am putting it down lol

I've lost count how many times when doing dungeons going through the bet ranks how many times it stopped a wipe.

Stick it on and get a res or two

Indeed and I recognize its prowess on my Dragonknight as well.

willymchilybily · October 2015

it seems your set up is fairly tanky, using heavy armor, and hardened armor, and it appears you must have dabbled at PvP to get retreating manuevers? do you prefer PvE? or PvP?

id suggest this website for checking out sets, (you can click a set and see how it is obtained also) i prefer it to the other one mentioned.
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Sets

as you can see most heavy armor sets (other than affliction) tend to lean to health and other stats, and a few may lean to stamina or magicka even fewer do both as hybrids are not popular. But to be honest a lot of the choice on getting both stamina and magicka within the set should not be your focus, you can just enchant any set as you want. so you can always make up for it if one is missing using enchants.

hybrids do suffer from lower damage. so id keep your focus on tanky survival and recommend Craftable sets (easier to get hold of):

Whitestrake's Retribution [4 traits]

(2 items) Adds Max Health
(3 items) Adds Spell Resistance
(4 items) Adds Health Recovery
(5 items) Whitestrake's Retribution: If wearers Health is below 30%, gain a [x] Damage Shield for 8 seconds. This effect can occur no more than once per 15 seconds.

Willow's Path [6 traits]

(2 items) Adds Magicka Recovery
(3 items) Adds Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Adds Health Recovery
(5 items) Willow's Path: Increase all recovery in combat by 15%.

If you like using soul trap maybe even look at oblivion foe (hard to craft)

(2 items) Adds Health Recovery
(3 items) Adds Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Adds Magicka Recovery
(5 items) Oblivion's Foe: Increase the damage of your Soul Trap abilities by 100%

im not sure if this set would increase to damage of soul assault or just soul trap, it states increase damage of abilities implying more than one, if it does it could be very worth while considering using a soul strike morph soul assault. in your ranged ultimate slot.

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

willymchilybily wrote: »

it seems your set up is fairly tanky, using heavy armor, and hardened armor, and it appears you must have dabbled at PvP to get retreating manuevers? do you prefer PvE? or PvP?

id suggest this website for checking out sets, (you can click a set and see how it is obtained also) i prefer it to the other one mentioned.
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Sets

as you can see most heavy armor sets (other than affliction) tend to lean to health and other stats, and a few may lean to stamina or magicka even fewer do both as hybrids are not popular. But to be honest a lot of the choice on getting both stamina and magicka within the set should not be your focus, you can just enchant any set as you want. so you can always make up for it if one is missing using enchants.

hybrids do suffer from lower damage. so id keep your focus on tanky survival and recommend Craftable sets (easier to get hold of):

Whitestrake's Retribution [4 traits]
(2 items) Adds Max Health
(3 items) Adds Spell Resistance
(4 items) Adds Health Recovery
(5 items) Whitestrake's Retribution: If wearers Health is below 30%, gain a [x] Damage Shield for 8 seconds. This effect can occur no more than once per 15 seconds.

Willow's Path [6 traits]
(2 items) Adds Magicka Recovery
(3 items) Adds Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Adds Health Recovery
(5 items) Willow's Path: Increase all recovery in combat by 15%.

If you like using soul trap maybe even look at oblivion foe (hard to craft)
(2 items) Adds Health Recovery
(3 items) Adds Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Adds Magicka Recovery
(5 items) Oblivion's Foe: Increase the damage of your Soul Trap abilities by 100%
im not sure if this set would increase to damage of soul assault or just soul trap, it states increase damage of abilities implying more than one, if it does it could be very worth while considering using a soul strike morph soul assault. in your ranged ultimate slot.

@ The bit I bolded and italicized: In time it will be less difficult (on console) to find someone able to craft the set. I myself am capable of crafting any 8-trait set on a Bow, Staff (all of them), Shield, and Girdle and currently working on Jack and Boots (I do not have ESO Plus). I do concur though that the set, for console players, will be difficult to have crafted as he may have to go through quite a few crafters lest he finds a PC transfer that can do it.

Dubhliam · October 2015

The Red Mountain.
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Coat+of+the+Red+Mountain+Set

But I would recommend you listen to all the guys saying you should focus on one resource.
Unless you are a dedicated tank, and do not wish to play as a damage dealer. Then hybrid builds are viable for sustain and resource management.

Marrtha · October 2015

Dubhliam wrote: »

The Red Mountain.
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Coat+of+the+Red+Mountain+Set

But I would recommend you listen to all the guys saying you should focus on one resource.
Unless you are a dedicated tank, and do not wish to play as a damage dealer. Then hybrid builds are viable for sustain and resource management.

Eh I don't think you should actually listen to anyone, just try to take the best out of the advices given . If you like to play as a hybrid, go ahead. The most important thing is that you are having fun. But on the other hand, it is good to make yourself a viable DD, or whatever your roll is, just to achieve some goals, like clearing a veteran dungeons etc.