Considering the game targets the North American and EU demographics, they should always have their time best suited for those audiences. Just because you can buy the game and connect to the servers from the oceanic location, doesnt mean that
- you should expect them to alter the maintenance in any way that helps you since it would potentially harm their main audience
- that any company should go out of their way for an audience which isnt their key demographic
- or that anyone in those main areas would care if you cannot play
If it means that those not in the continent for the server have awkward or upsetting time frames for maintenance, then so be it. They have to schedule based on the audience for where they are marketing.
I would also expect that any game produced and targeting an Oceanic audience to have their maintenance during the best time for that audience. Unfortunately though, i cannot think of any game that specifically targets that audience. perhaps if a game was made from an oceanic company targeting an oceanic player base, we wouldn't have so much angst over this?
SienneYviete wrote: »
SienneYviete wrote: »
You should probably look the word up in a dictionary before posting.

SienneYviete wrote: »SienneYviete wrote: »
You should probably look the word up in a dictionary before posting.
You have zero input of relevance to the thread, and your claim makes zero sense please just stop.
SienneYviete wrote: »SienneYviete wrote: »
You should probably look the word up in a dictionary before posting.
You have zero input of relevance to the thread, and your claim makes zero sense please just stop.
Sorry but if you think you deserve something then that is entitlement. You think you are entitled to different downtimes.
I've literally described your position so it makes perfect sense and is completely relevant. The fact you are denial about your attitude is your problem.
SienneYviete wrote: »SienneYviete wrote: »SienneYviete wrote: »
You should probably look the word up in a dictionary before posting.
You have zero input of relevance to the thread, and your claim makes zero sense please just stop.
Sorry but if you think you deserve something then that is entitlement. You think you are entitled to different downtimes.
I've literally described your position so it makes perfect sense and is completely relevant. The fact you are denial about your attitude is your problem.
Can you explain how entitlement has anything to do with wanting to know why the scheduled maintenance times for which have been around since launch on PC have suddenly changed in the last two weeks....... like seriously there is absolutely no correlation between the two subjects.
@Umad_BrO speak for yourself.....I'm a plus member for over a year and a half and I don't care lol never have. What I do care about is that they never fix anything and every day I remember why my subscription is utterly useless.....
SienneYviete wrote: »daswahnsinn wrote: »They just made it a thing
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/227015/na-and-eu-megaserver-maintenance
Negative, this maintenance tonight is because something happened during last nights maintenance that affected the eu login system which basically shut down the work they were doing on the NA backend to focus on that issue. (which imo should have never been allowed to happen in the first place as these should be two separate entities.) Tonight is for completing what was not finished last night.
The issue is still the changed Tuesday maintenance times which are now smack bang in the middle of Oceanic prime time hours which have been changed with zero explanation from ZOS as to why.
The question is, and has been from the outset: "WHY CHANGE THE TIME? WHY NO NOTICE OR WARNING TO PLAYERS"
I would love it for a mod to come in here and say something like: "Woah, don't worry guys, this is just temporary leading up to Orsinium." I can live with that.
SienneYviete wrote: »
lordrichter wrote: »@Umad_BrO speak for yourself.....I'm a plus member for over a year and a half and I don't care lol never have. What I do care about is that they never fix anything and every day I remember why my subscription is utterly useless.....
I am an ESO subscriber for the last 14 months and I can say that they do fix things. I can say, without hesitation, that I experience fewer bugs and crashes today than I did in April 2014. I am not saying that everything is puppies and kittens today, but I would not trade the game today for the game just before Update 2, even if that fixed the Cyrodiil lag.SienneYviete wrote: »daswahnsinn wrote: »They just made it a thing
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/227015/na-and-eu-megaserver-maintenance
Negative, this maintenance tonight is because something happened during last nights maintenance that affected the eu login system which basically shut down the work they were doing on the NA backend to focus on that issue. (which imo should have never been allowed to happen in the first place as these should be two separate entities.) Tonight is for completing what was not finished last night.
The issue is still the changed Tuesday maintenance times which are now smack bang in the middle of Oceanic prime time hours which have been changed with zero explanation from ZOS as to why.
It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out why. It is done entirely for the convenience of the staff in the United States that is doing the work. This is normal for ZOS and they have frequently scheduled maintenance events, particularly special maintenance events like these, according to their own work schedules. They pick 5 A.M. because they envision that it could take a very long time to complete the work. I think they would rather work between 5 A.M. and 5 P.M. than 9 A.M. and 9 P.M.
To think that this is a new weekly event and that maintenance is going to be like this from today forward is incorrect. Normal maintenance times are unchanged: https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7658The question is, and has been from the outset: "WHY CHANGE THE TIME? WHY NO NOTICE OR WARNING TO PLAYERS"
Just to be clear, they were making announcements on the launcher more than 12 hours before the maintenance today. Some people in the game actually thought that the maintenance was going to be yesterday, due to the fact that they did not correctly read the "A.M." part of the time. It was posted on the forums more than 12 hours before the maintenance, in both a forum posting and a banner. The announcement was well ahead of the event, even for ZOS.I would love it for a mod to come in here and say something like: "Woah, don't worry guys, this is just temporary leading up to Orsinium." I can live with that.
They already did this. Yesterday.
Lot of people in this thread seem to be missing the point. Maintainance needs to happen and it needs to impact the least people but with the Europeans having their own mega server I think its fair to assume that the NA server's top demographics are NA, SE Asia and Oceania.
Lot of people in this thread seem to be missing the point. Maintainance needs to happen and it needs to impact the least people but with the Europeans having their own mega server I think its fair to assume that the NA server's top demographics are NA, SE Asia and Oceania.
seems like everyone can complain here.
well...I'm playing NA server. I'm from Europe.
i am NOT alone.
So i demand Maintenance at....wait a second.... There is no time it would be good actually.
Live with it.
You are not the only one suffering from this downtimes.
lordrichter wrote: »
I'm reading two types of responses in this thread:
1) "Could we find a compromise that's better for more people, without hurting anyone?"
2) "I don't have a problem with the current maintenance times, therefore there is no problem."
SienneYviete wrote: »AtriasNaradan wrote: »SienneYviete wrote: »AtriasNaradan wrote: »I'm playing from South East Asia. I will say this...do you ever realized that the game, even the US server alone is actually played world wide? know that 10 pm on your place might just be 7pm on others. what's prime time on some other places is actually what you consider as a good time for maintenance.
What's the point here? you keep talking about the issue with the timing of the maintenance for you there, but you seemed to failed on realizing that no matter what time they're doing maintenance on, there will be those who unable to play within their prime time, which in this case happen to be you and your fellow Australian. The best they can do is actually doing maintenance on time frame where majority of their players are not playing, which again happen to be your prime time there.
My point is, be more mindful about what you're making an issue of. To me, this thread sounds like you're having an issue that your prime time is not being prioritized over other, making you sound pretty self-important. There's really nothing they can do, because your even if they move it to 10pm on your place, then on other place there will still be those who are experiencing what you're experiencing right now. So again, be mindful.
Anyway, that said, i know how you felt though...been there, can't play at all on my prime time because of maintenance. But the difference is i completely realized that even if it's not happen on my prime time, it happens on other time zone prime time, no point of being self-important with fellow TESO gamer.
Are you kidding me!! why do so many people post without actually reading the thread MAINTENANCE WAS FINE THE WAY IT WAS IT HAS NOW CHANGED FOR NO APPARENT REASON WITH NO EXPLANATION AS TO WHY. I really don't understand why it's so hard for people to actually read before they make a post that has absolutely nothing to do with the real issue presented in the OP.
I do read, i wasn't implying you have problem with the maintenance itself. My understanding is that you have problem with the timing itself, which is why i said, if it's done on time where you have no issue at, some other on different time zone will be the one experiencing what you're experiencing.
You really need to read and understand other people comment first yourself, before paint everyone who're replying at you on the opposite saide of the argument as not getting what you meant.
You still don't understand, there was never an issue up until now The time it has always been was fine and has been accepted since launch why change now? This is the core problem at hand, the change in timing which was never an issue but has now become a major issue for Oceanic players.
Malnutrition wrote: »I would like to know from those complaining: when should ZoS schedule these maintenance windows?
Keep in mind: this is a US-base server, whose vast majority of users are in US-based time zones, where the peak hours are from 5PM EST to around 2AM EST (give or take).
Also, keep in mind any answer you give that isn't "the hours they're using now seem impact the least amount of people" will make you look like an ass.
So, when?
How about they just stuck to the way it was scheduled? I don't recall seeing the forums swamped with petitions for the times to have been changed.
SienneYviete wrote: »Actually you are incorrect the maintenance message for today was only posted after the server came back up after the issues they had with the maintenance yesterday as explained here forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/227015/na-and-eu-megaserver-maintenance
This however is irrelevant to my OP as I understand there was an issue and must be fixed hence I have no problem with tonight's maintenance, what is relevant is that you state in the first part of your post that it is a convenience thing but why was it okay for over a year from launch to have maintenance start at a specific time (which you would assume is during their standard working hours) and now suddenly it's inconvenient and had to change, that does not make sense at all.
lordrichter wrote: »
I was actually talking about the time of these maintenances in general. If the time is temporarily moved to be earlier due to Orsinium, then I'm fine with that. If not, then that's the problem the thread was started for. If you have a link stating (from a mod) that the changed time is temporary, due to Orsinium, then please provide it. If you can, hooray, this thread actually becomes void (but we're left to wonder why no one else has said so earlier in the thread).
lordrichter wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »
I was actually talking about the time of these maintenances in general. If the time is temporarily moved to be earlier due to Orsinium, then I'm fine with that. If not, then that's the problem the thread was started for. If you have a link stating (from a mod) that the changed time is temporary, due to Orsinium, then please provide it. If you can, hooray, this thread actually becomes void (but we're left to wonder why no one else has said so earlier in the thread).
Other way around, dear Sir or Madam. Only people in the forum have suggested that they are changing the maintenance time long term. Please don't make up rumors and then demand that ZOS refute them.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »SienneYviete wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Hey guy they do it early in the morning due to MAJORITY being offline so it is ready for peak hours. Also they are cracking on it first thing in the morning these guys have barely had coffee. Go play other games in the meantime or go get some sun.
There will never be a time period where no one is online so there will never be a time period when maintenance will hinder someone's playtime. As nordsavage said they cater to the benefit of the majority, and for maintenance the dead hours do that best. Sorry if you lose a couple hours of in-game time over it but there is nothing that can be done, unless you want the servers to crash at any given time for who knows how long.
Just to clarify for the third time as people seem to have reading comprehension issues, nobody is complaining as to the Maintenance itself we are complaining because the maintenance times which were previously fine have been changed with no explanation as to why.
Well rude comments aside they post in advance maintenance schedules so you know it's coming. Not their fault if you don't check into it. They do maintenance when needed and post the schedule, so that alone should suffice.
lordrichter wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »
I was actually talking about the time of these maintenances in general. If the time is temporarily moved to be earlier due to Orsinium, then I'm fine with that. If not, then that's the problem the thread was started for. If you have a link stating (from a mod) that the changed time is temporary, due to Orsinium, then please provide it. If you can, hooray, this thread actually becomes void (but we're left to wonder why no one else has said so earlier in the thread).
Other way around, dear Sir or Madam. Only people in the forum have suggested that they are changing the maintenance time long term. Please don't make up rumors and then demand that ZOS refute them.
Umm, the first quote wasn't me, I think you deleted the wrong thing in your reply.
As for the actual reply, I'm not making any rumour. Many people, including myself, are just asking for clarification on a matter before it gets out of hand. If nothing is said, then ZOS may think this new time is fine, when it's not. Never said anything like "Oh, this is now the new time for maintenance. Shame!"
As a side note: I would say I'm a sir in regards to your comment on what gender I am, but I'm afraid I haven't received my knighthood yet