We are currently investigating issues some players are having logging into the European PC/Mac megaserver. We will update as new information becomes available.

Please don't make this a thing ZOS...

  • me_ming
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    Dev wrote: »
    Considering the game targets the North American and EU demographics, they should always have their time best suited for those audiences. Just because you can buy the game and connect to the servers from the oceanic location, doesnt mean that
    1. you should expect them to alter the maintenance in any way that helps you since it would potentially harm their main audience
    2. that any company should go out of their way for an audience which isnt their key demographic
    3. or that anyone in those main areas would care if you cannot play

    If it means that those not in the continent for the server have awkward or upsetting time frames for maintenance, then so be it. They have to schedule based on the audience for where they are marketing.

    I would also expect that any game produced and targeting an Oceanic audience to have their maintenance during the best time for that audience. Unfortunately though, i cannot think of any game that specifically targets that audience. perhaps if a game was made from an oceanic company targeting an oceanic player base, we wouldn't have so much angst over this?


    I almost sort of agree to the first point, but the thing is, the "usual" maint time was never an issue for people who are demographically located in NA, was it? I mean, that's what has been the "usual" maint time for so long. So why change something if it's not broken, yes?

    Your two other points? Well, I suppose that you can think ZoS thinks that way, but I doubt. People from other regions are just as important as those of the so-called "target" markets you are referring too. Quite frankly, I doubt that NA and EU are the ONLY target market of ZoS. I am going to expect that ZoS will care to my needs, not just because I am located somewhere else in the world, but because I paid for the game. And I am a customer.

    Personally, I don't mind if they have the schedules change, I do hope this is temporary, what I am not happy about is that it takes too long for the maint to complete. I get it, though, they have to do what they have to do. I just hope 6+ hours of maint isn't going to be a norm in this game. Moreso, 6+ hours for 2 consecutive days.
    Edited by me_ming on October 28, 2015 11:44AM
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  • mystercee
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    Either most people on this thread lack the most basic of reading comprehension skills, or ESO withdrawal is having a serious impact on their intellect.

    THERE IS NO ONE ASKING "WHY?" MAINTENANCE. We all get it, maintenance is a necessary evil. The question is, and has been from the outset: "WHY CHANGE THE TIME? WHY NO NOTICE OR WARNING TO PLAYERS"

    As has been so obviously pointed out numerous times, whenever maintenance is done it will effect some part of the player base. YES - WE IN OCEANIA UNDERSTAND THAT. WE ARE NOT MINDLESS CRACK ADDICTS

    What, we the players of Oceania want, is what the majority of ESO players want. Some communication from the company taking our money to play their game. As was evident in yesterday's forum outcry.

    The only reason we got this post relating to 28 October Maintenance: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/227015/na-and-eu-megaserver-maintenance

    Is because of the number of threads started yesterday asking "WTF?" To which Zos had no response except to close threads and tell us all to play like nice little mushrooms and stop complaining.

    Zos has internationally released a multi-platform game in multiple currencies, to argue anything outside of USA or EU is not a target market is nonsense.

    @Nolphi proved easily it is not hard to find a time that will suit a larger a majority, with very little effort required on the part of Zos. However, I gravely doubt Zos has enough respect for their player base to consider something quite so practical.

    In the meantime, all we want is better communication from our service provider. If after this you still don't understand the Oceanic player issue, then I think it's best for everyone you stay silent.

    Mum always said: "If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all."
  • loonyboyx
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    The only thing worse than down time is gamers with major entitlement issues
  • SienneYviete
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    loonyboyx wrote: »
    The only thing worse than down time is gamers with major entitlement issues

    Entitlement has absolutely nothing to do with the concern stressed in the OP, you should probably think before posting next time.
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  • IV1IVJA
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    Thank you @SienneYviete, @Nolphi, @mystercee, and everyone else that can actually see what the issue is, and doesn't have selective sight in this thread. It's extraordinary the amount of people in this thread that only see what they want to see, and only argue what they can argue against, yet ignore things they don't have a chance in refuting. There has been two different scenarios that will help the issue, either: a) put the maintenance times back to the way they were, or; b) change them to 9 or 10am EDT as suggested by @Nolphi.

    Yes, as many have said, it'll be prime time somewhere around the world, no one here is denying that. But ignoring Oceania and thinking it's not a major part of a player base, is just downright ignorant. Having said all that, I would love it for a mod to come in here and say something like: "Woah, don't worry guys, this is just temporary leading up to Orsinium." I can live with that.

    Talking of mods though, why would one come in here just to rouse on people and not address the issue? If the issue was addressed, it would in turn, stop (or at least hinder) any further arguments between players :|
    Edited by IV1IVJA on October 28, 2015 12:11PM
  • loonyboyx
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    loonyboyx wrote: »
    The only thing worse than down time is gamers with major entitlement issues

    Entitlement has absolutely nothing to do with the concern stressed in the OP, you should probably think before posting next time.

    You should probably look the word up in a dictionary before posting.
  • SienneYviete
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    loonyboyx wrote: »
    loonyboyx wrote: »
    The only thing worse than down time is gamers with major entitlement issues

    Entitlement has absolutely nothing to do with the concern stressed in the OP, you should probably think before posting next time.

    You should probably look the word up in a dictionary before posting.

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    You have zero input of relevance to the thread, and your claim makes zero sense please just stop.
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  • loonyboyx
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    loonyboyx wrote: »
    loonyboyx wrote: »
    The only thing worse than down time is gamers with major entitlement issues

    Entitlement has absolutely nothing to do with the concern stressed in the OP, you should probably think before posting next time.

    You should probably look the word up in a dictionary before posting.

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    You have zero input of relevance to the thread, and your claim makes zero sense please just stop.


    Sorry but if you think you deserve something then that is entitlement. You think you are entitled to different downtimes.

    I've literally described your position so it makes perfect sense and is completely relevant. The fact you are denial about your attitude is your problem.
  • SienneYviete
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    loonyboyx wrote: »
    loonyboyx wrote: »
    loonyboyx wrote: »
    The only thing worse than down time is gamers with major entitlement issues

    Entitlement has absolutely nothing to do with the concern stressed in the OP, you should probably think before posting next time.

    You should probably look the word up in a dictionary before posting.

    nick-young-confused-face-300x256.png

    You have zero input of relevance to the thread, and your claim makes zero sense please just stop.


    Sorry but if you think you deserve something then that is entitlement. You think you are entitled to different downtimes.

    I've literally described your position so it makes perfect sense and is completely relevant. The fact you are denial about your attitude is your problem.

    Can you explain how entitlement has anything to do with wanting to know why the scheduled maintenance times for which have been around since launch on PC have suddenly changed in the last two weeks....... like seriously there is absolutely no correlation between the two subjects.
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  • loonyboyx
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    loonyboyx wrote: »
    loonyboyx wrote: »
    loonyboyx wrote: »
    The only thing worse than down time is gamers with major entitlement issues

    Entitlement has absolutely nothing to do with the concern stressed in the OP, you should probably think before posting next time.

    You should probably look the word up in a dictionary before posting.

    nick-young-confused-face-300x256.png

    You have zero input of relevance to the thread, and your claim makes zero sense please just stop.


    Sorry but if you think you deserve something then that is entitlement. You think you are entitled to different downtimes.

    I've literally described your position so it makes perfect sense and is completely relevant. The fact you are denial about your attitude is your problem.

    Can you explain how entitlement has anything to do with wanting to know why the scheduled maintenance times for which have been around since launch on PC have suddenly changed in the last two weeks....... like seriously there is absolutely no correlation between the two subjects.

    I suspect whatever I post you won't accept so I'll just walk away from this one.
  • Bugbear
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    Not sure how many people can actually read. the OP was nothing about our entitlements or about why they do Maintenance. the Original Post was about why the changed the time of said maintenance.

    And asking if this was going to be the new time for maintenance from now on. AND if this was the new time it was moving to. and if so why weren't we told. Then they asked nicely not to make this the new maintenance time.

    Nothing was every said about why they do maintenance, no one complained about them doing maintenance.

    So before you post, please read the OP.

    Would save all the *** people post.


  • Elsonso
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    @Umad_BrO speak for yourself.....I'm a plus member for over a year and a half and I don't care lol never have. What I do care about is that they never fix anything and every day I remember why my subscription is utterly useless.....

    I am an ESO subscriber for the last 14 months and I can say that they do fix things. I can say, without hesitation, that I experience fewer bugs and crashes today than I did in April 2014. I am not saying that everything is puppies and kittens today, but I would not trade the game today for the game just before Update 2, even if that fixed the Cyrodiil lag.

    Negative, this maintenance tonight is because something happened during last nights maintenance that affected the eu login system which basically shut down the work they were doing on the NA backend to focus on that issue. (which imo should have never been allowed to happen in the first place as these should be two separate entities.) Tonight is for completing what was not finished last night.

    The issue is still the changed Tuesday maintenance times which are now smack bang in the middle of Oceanic prime time hours which have been changed with zero explanation from ZOS as to why.

    It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out why. It is done entirely for the convenience of the staff in the United States that is doing the work. This is normal for ZOS and they have frequently scheduled maintenance events, particularly special maintenance events like these, according to their own work schedules. They pick 5 A.M. because they envision that it could take a very long time to complete the work. I think they would rather work between 5 A.M. and 5 P.M. than 9 A.M. and 9 P.M.

    To think that this is a new weekly event and that maintenance is going to be like this from today forward is incorrect. Normal maintenance times are unchanged: https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7658
    mystercee wrote: »
    The question is, and has been from the outset: "WHY CHANGE THE TIME? WHY NO NOTICE OR WARNING TO PLAYERS"

    Just to be clear, they were making announcements on the launcher more than 12 hours before the maintenance today. Some people in the game actually thought that the maintenance was going to be yesterday, due to the fact that they did not correctly read the "A.M." part of the time. It was posted on the forums more than 12 hours before the maintenance, in both a forum posting and a banner. The announcement was well ahead of the event, even for ZOS.
    IV1IVJA wrote: »
    I would love it for a mod to come in here and say something like: "Woah, don't worry guys, this is just temporary leading up to Orsinium." I can live with that.

    They already did this. Yesterday.
    Edited by Elsonso on October 28, 2015 1:02PM
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  • Islyn
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    loonyboyx wrote: »
    The only thing worse than down time is gamers with major entitlement issues

    Entitlement has absolutely nothing to do with the concern stressed in the OP, you should probably think before posting next time.

    Doesn't make the statement invalid, though.
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  • SienneYviete
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    @Umad_BrO speak for yourself.....I'm a plus member for over a year and a half and I don't care lol never have. What I do care about is that they never fix anything and every day I remember why my subscription is utterly useless.....

    I am an ESO subscriber for the last 14 months and I can say that they do fix things. I can say, without hesitation, that I experience fewer bugs and crashes today than I did in April 2014. I am not saying that everything is puppies and kittens today, but I would not trade the game today for the game just before Update 2, even if that fixed the Cyrodiil lag.

    Negative, this maintenance tonight is because something happened during last nights maintenance that affected the eu login system which basically shut down the work they were doing on the NA backend to focus on that issue. (which imo should have never been allowed to happen in the first place as these should be two separate entities.) Tonight is for completing what was not finished last night.

    The issue is still the changed Tuesday maintenance times which are now smack bang in the middle of Oceanic prime time hours which have been changed with zero explanation from ZOS as to why.

    It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out why. It is done entirely for the convenience of the staff in the United States that is doing the work. This is normal for ZOS and they have frequently scheduled maintenance events, particularly special maintenance events like these, according to their own work schedules. They pick 5 A.M. because they envision that it could take a very long time to complete the work. I think they would rather work between 5 A.M. and 5 P.M. than 9 A.M. and 9 P.M.

    To think that this is a new weekly event and that maintenance is going to be like this from today forward is incorrect. Normal maintenance times are unchanged: https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7658
    mystercee wrote: »
    The question is, and has been from the outset: "WHY CHANGE THE TIME? WHY NO NOTICE OR WARNING TO PLAYERS"

    Just to be clear, they were making announcements on the launcher more than 12 hours before the maintenance today. Some people in the game actually thought that the maintenance was going to be yesterday, due to the fact that they did not correctly read the "A.M." part of the time. It was posted on the forums more than 12 hours before the maintenance, in both a forum posting and a banner. The announcement was well ahead of the event, even for ZOS.
    IV1IVJA wrote: »
    I would love it for a mod to come in here and say something like: "Woah, don't worry guys, this is just temporary leading up to Orsinium." I can live with that.

    They already did this. Yesterday.

    Actually you are incorrect the maintenance message for today was only posted after the server came back up after the issues they had with the maintenance yesterday as explained here forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/227015/na-and-eu-megaserver-maintenance

    This however is irrelevant to my OP as I understand there was an issue and must be fixed hence I have no problem with tonight's maintenance, what is relevant is that you state in the first part of your post that it is a convenience thing but why was it okay for over a year from launch to have maintenance start at a specific time (which you would assume is during their standard working hours) and now suddenly it's inconvenient and had to change, that does not make sense at all.
    Edited by SienneYviete on October 28, 2015 1:18PM
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  • Dharke82
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    Just gotta add my support to the OP.. I live in western Australia and with the servers going down from 5pm it just sucks.. now I can play anytime, but I'd imagine anyone else with an actual life would have to give up playing for a day (or 2 in this case)..

    Now i understand maintenance is a nessessary evil. But unreasonble denial of service is against the law here and enforced by the ACCC. If ZOS wants to continue its position in the Australian market it needs to accommodate for its consumers here.

    Saying that I do want to mention I love this game and want to continue playing it.. so please devs do something about this!
  • jhharvest
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    I'm reading two types of responses in this thread:

    1) "Could we find a compromise that's better for more people, without hurting anyone?"

    2) "I don't have a problem with the current maintenance times, therefore there is no problem."
  • SienneYviete
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    It would be really great if a mod could step in here and put this one to rest @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_ShannonM

    And just to be clear the only reason a mod commented on this yesterday was to warn of bordering code of conduct violations and remove troll posts.
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  • Lyrander
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    Nolphi wrote: »

    Lot of people in this thread seem to be missing the point. Maintainance needs to happen and it needs to impact the least people but with the Europeans having their own mega server I think its fair to assume that the NA server's top demographics are NA, SE Asia and Oceania.

    seems like everyone can complain here.
    well...I'm playing NA server. I'm from Europe.
    i am NOT alone.

    So i demand Maintenance at....wait a second.... There is no time it would be good actually.
    Live with it.
    You are not the only one suffering from this downtimes.
  • SienneYviete
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    Lyrander wrote: »
    Nolphi wrote: »

    Lot of people in this thread seem to be missing the point. Maintainance needs to happen and it needs to impact the least people but with the Europeans having their own mega server I think its fair to assume that the NA server's top demographics are NA, SE Asia and Oceania.

    seems like everyone can complain here.
    well...I'm playing NA server. I'm from Europe.
    i am NOT alone.

    So i demand Maintenance at....wait a second.... There is no time it would be good actually.
    Live with it.
    You are not the only one suffering from this downtimes.

    Actually nobody has demanded anything, and if once again you bothered to read the OP you would realise a question was asked as to why and never answered.
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  • IV1IVJA
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    IV1IVJA wrote: »
    I would love it for a mod to come in here and say something like: "Woah, don't worry guys, this is just temporary leading up to Orsinium." I can live with that.

    They already did this. Yesterday.

    I was actually talking about the time of these maintenances in general. If the time is temporarily moved to be earlier due to Orsinium, then I'm fine with that. If not, then that's the problem the thread was started for. If you have a link stating (from a mod) that the changed time is temporary, due to Orsinium, then please provide it. If you can, hooray, this thread actually becomes void (but we're left to wonder why no one else has said so earlier in the thread).
    jhharvest wrote: »
    I'm reading two types of responses in this thread:

    1) "Could we find a compromise that's better for more people, without hurting anyone?"

    2) "I don't have a problem with the current maintenance times, therefore there is no problem."

    Pretty accurate summary right there... *sigh*
    Edited by IV1IVJA on October 28, 2015 1:34PM
  • Nolphi
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    Please read my thread where I give very detailed times for different time zones where the overall impact would be minimal regardless of where you live. My conclusion: 9am or 10 EST will be optimal in making sure that everyone gets to play a reasonable amount of time at reasonable hours of the day. For people in Europe my suggestion means you will experience down time from 3pm onwards meaning you will still have the entire evening to play.

    My golly people seriously... the only thing OP is pointing out is that the shift of downtime to this new schedule is effectively killing off the entire evening for people in Oceania. Its a fair observation and as my detailed time zone suggestion shows there are better ways of minimizing the impact worldwide. Thread closed, no further argument possible on this topic. The only constructive response would be ZOS actually explaining why they shifted the schedule. It could be something completely unrelated to anything we discussed here...
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  • Nolphi
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    Lyrander, in case you missed it:

    New York (U.S.A. - New York) Wednesday, 28 October 2015, 09:00:00 EDT UTC-4 hours
    San Francisco (U.S.A. - California) Wednesday, 28 October 2015, 06:00:00 PDT UTC-7 hours
    Honolulu (U.S.A. - Hawaii) Wednesday, 28 October 2015, 03:00:00 HAST UTC-10 hours
    Auckland (New Zealand) Thursday, 29 October 2015, 02:00:00 NZDT UTC+13 hours
    Sydney (Australia - New South Wales) Thursday, 29 October 2015, 00:00:00 AEDT UTC+11 hours
    Hong Kong (Hong Kong) Wednesday, 28 October 2015, 21:00:00 HKT UTC+8 hours
    Paris (France) Wednesday, 28 October 2015, 14:00:00 CET UTC+1 hour

    See, you will be absolutely fine if you are in Europe but playing the NA server...
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  • Adryssa_Joneley
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    I'm playing from South East Asia. I will say this...do you ever realized that the game, even the US server alone is actually played world wide? know that 10 pm on your place might just be 7pm on others. what's prime time on some other places is actually what you consider as a good time for maintenance.

    What's the point here? you keep talking about the issue with the timing of the maintenance for you there, but you seemed to failed on realizing that no matter what time they're doing maintenance on, there will be those who unable to play within their prime time, which in this case happen to be you and your fellow Australian. The best they can do is actually doing maintenance on time frame where majority of their players are not playing, which again happen to be your prime time there.

    My point is, be more mindful about what you're making an issue of. To me, this thread sounds like you're having an issue that your prime time is not being prioritized over other, making you sound pretty self-important. There's really nothing they can do, because your even if they move it to 10pm on your place, then on other place there will still be those who are experiencing what you're experiencing right now. So again, be mindful.

    Anyway, that said, i know how you felt though...been there, can't play at all on my prime time because of maintenance. But the difference is i completely realized that even if it's not happen on my prime time, it happens on other time zone prime time, no point of being self-important with fellow TESO gamer.

    Are you kidding me!! why do so many people post without actually reading the thread MAINTENANCE WAS FINE THE WAY IT WAS IT HAS NOW CHANGED FOR NO APPARENT REASON WITH NO EXPLANATION AS TO WHY. I really don't understand why it's so hard for people to actually read before they make a post that has absolutely nothing to do with the real issue presented in the OP.

    I do read, i wasn't implying you have problem with the maintenance itself. My understanding is that you have problem with the timing itself, which is why i said, if it's done on time where you have no issue at, some other on different time zone will be the one experiencing what you're experiencing.

    You really need to read and understand other people comment first yourself, before paint everyone who're replying at you on the opposite saide of the argument as not getting what you meant.

    You still don't understand, there was never an issue up until now The time it has always been was fine and has been accepted since launch why change now? This is the core problem at hand, the change in timing which was never an issue but has now become a major issue for Oceanic players.

    Im thinking that due to the DLC coming next week, they changed times to make sure they have everything set up ready for it to go live. Well, that's what i'm thinking, though it would be nice for ZoS to confirm this and whether the usual time will go back after the DLC goes live.
  • Ashtaris
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    I think many people don't realize that some of the maintenance days might not be in ZOS's control. For example, I'm sure they are probably using a remote server farm and most likely under the control of a seperate company and associated technicians. For certain projects such as hardware upgrades, they may do it only on certain days, or times dependent on when they have people available. There are lots of variables as to why ZOS may have had to choose these days and times, and I'm sure it wasn't to inconvenience some of the player base :)
  • nine9six
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    nine9six wrote: »
    I would like to know from those complaining: when should ZoS schedule these maintenance windows?

    Keep in mind: this is a US-base server, whose vast majority of users are in US-based time zones, where the peak hours are from 5PM EST to around 2AM EST (give or take).

    Also, keep in mind any answer you give that isn't "the hours they're using now seem impact the least amount of people" will make you look like an ass.

    So, when?

    How about they just stuck to the way it was scheduled? I don't recall seeing the forums swamped with petitions for the times to have been changed.

    They had an issue of some sort that caused the maintanance window to run longer than normal. My post was made in response to the 100s of posts of "waaaahhh you're messing up my non-NA game time!".

    And if they did make a change in their maintanance hours I'm sure they had a reason for doing so. Contrary to the popular beliefe on these forums ZOS doesn't intentionally schedule these sort of things with the hope that hundreds of entitled people take to the Forums and cry about their 1st-world problems.

    I'm not "taking aim" at you, so please don't respond to this in a pissy way. I'm just saying...
    Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...
  • Elsonso
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    Actually you are incorrect the maintenance message for today was only posted after the server came back up after the issues they had with the maintenance yesterday as explained here forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/227015/na-and-eu-megaserver-maintenance

    This however is irrelevant to my OP as I understand there was an issue and must be fixed hence I have no problem with tonight's maintenance, what is relevant is that you state in the first part of your post that it is a convenience thing but why was it okay for over a year from launch to have maintenance start at a specific time (which you would assume is during their standard working hours) and now suddenly it's inconvenient and had to change, that does not make sense at all.

    Actually, that was the posting I was referring to. :smile: The one for today's maintenance that was posted after yesterday's maintenance. They did not say anything before the Tuesday maintenance, unlike the one last week, were chastised for it, and corrected that for today's maintenance.

    Again, this is not normal maintenance today, or yesterday. They are not just taking down the servers and installing a patch. They are doing physical updates in the data center, which is not something that they normally do. This is could require coordination of various outside help, electricians, delivery companies, etc. People are behaving like this is a normal routine maintenance like they do every week and they just randomly decided to change the time. This is not the case, and that was pretty clear in the notice posted yesterday.
    IV1IVJA wrote: »
    IV1IVJA wrote: »
    I would love it for a mod to come in here and say something like: "Woah, don't worry guys, this is just temporary leading up to Orsinium." I can live with that.

    They already did this. Yesterday.

    I was actually talking about the time of these maintenances in general. If the time is temporarily moved to be earlier due to Orsinium, then I'm fine with that. If not, then that's the problem the thread was started for. If you have a link stating (from a mod) that the changed time is temporary, due to Orsinium, then please provide it. If you can, hooray, this thread actually becomes void (but we're left to wonder why no one else has said so earlier in the thread).

    Other way around, dear Sir or Madam. Only people in the forum have suggested that they are changing the maintenance time long term. Please don't make up rumors and then demand that ZOS refute them.
    Edited by Elsonso on October 28, 2015 4:32PM
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  • IV1IVJA
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    IV1IVJA wrote: »
    IV1IVJA wrote: »
    I would love it for a mod to come in here and say something like: "Woah, don't worry guys, this is just temporary leading up to Orsinium." I can live with that.

    They already did this. Yesterday.

    I was actually talking about the time of these maintenances in general. If the time is temporarily moved to be earlier due to Orsinium, then I'm fine with that. If not, then that's the problem the thread was started for. If you have a link stating (from a mod) that the changed time is temporary, due to Orsinium, then please provide it. If you can, hooray, this thread actually becomes void (but we're left to wonder why no one else has said so earlier in the thread).

    Other way around, dear Sir or Madam. Only people in the forum have suggested that they are changing the maintenance time long term. Please don't make up rumors and then demand that ZOS refute them.

    Umm, the first quote wasn't me, I think you deleted the wrong thing in your reply.

    As for the actual reply, I'm not making any rumour. Many people, including myself, are just asking for clarification on a matter before it gets out of hand. If nothing is said, then ZOS may think this new time is fine, when it's not. Never said anything like "Oh, this is now the new time for maintenance. Shame!"

    As a side note: I would say I'm a sir in regards to your comment on what gender I am, but I'm afraid I haven't received my knighthood yet :/
  • zZzleepyhead
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    Y'all need to calm down.

    There are two servers: US and EU. There will be inconvenient downtime for someone.. that's just how time zones work. I haven't aligned player population to maintenance times, but I'm assuming they put some effort into it.

    :p

    Edited by zZzleepyhead on October 28, 2015 3:57PM
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    nordsavage wrote: »
    Hey guy they do it early in the morning due to MAJORITY being offline so it is ready for peak hours. Also they are cracking on it first thing in the morning these guys have barely had coffee. Go play other games in the meantime or go get some sun.

    There will never be a time period where no one is online so there will never be a time period when maintenance will hinder someone's playtime. As nordsavage said they cater to the benefit of the majority, and for maintenance the dead hours do that best. Sorry if you lose a couple hours of in-game time over it but there is nothing that can be done, unless you want the servers to crash at any given time for who knows how long.

    Just to clarify for the third time as people seem to have reading comprehension issues, nobody is complaining as to the Maintenance itself we are complaining because the maintenance times which were previously fine have been changed with no explanation as to why.

    Well rude comments aside they post in advance maintenance schedules so you know it's coming. Not their fault if you don't check into it. They do maintenance when needed and post the schedule, so that alone should suffice.

    You're missing the OP's point...he is fine with maintanence but not fine with its time. This game DOES INDEED have a large audience in Australia. I personally live in US, but can understand their frustration...valid complaint on OP's part..
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    IV1IVJA wrote: »
    IV1IVJA wrote: »
    IV1IVJA wrote: »
    I would love it for a mod to come in here and say something like: "Woah, don't worry guys, this is just temporary leading up to Orsinium." I can live with that.

    They already did this. Yesterday.

    I was actually talking about the time of these maintenances in general. If the time is temporarily moved to be earlier due to Orsinium, then I'm fine with that. If not, then that's the problem the thread was started for. If you have a link stating (from a mod) that the changed time is temporary, due to Orsinium, then please provide it. If you can, hooray, this thread actually becomes void (but we're left to wonder why no one else has said so earlier in the thread).

    Other way around, dear Sir or Madam. Only people in the forum have suggested that they are changing the maintenance time long term. Please don't make up rumors and then demand that ZOS refute them.

    Umm, the first quote wasn't me, I think you deleted the wrong thing in your reply.

    As for the actual reply, I'm not making any rumour. Many people, including myself, are just asking for clarification on a matter before it gets out of hand. If nothing is said, then ZOS may think this new time is fine, when it's not. Never said anything like "Oh, this is now the new time for maintenance. Shame!"

    As a side note: I would say I'm a sir in regards to your comment on what gender I am, but I'm afraid I haven't received my knighthood yet :/

    Huh, I went back to look at the comment that I was replying to and it was formatted such that you were writing it. The first quote goes back to the last part of the second paragraph in this comment: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2387137/#Comment_2387137 I don't see what the misquote is, but if I find it, I will fix it.

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