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Please don't make this a thing ZOS...

  • Lyrander
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    Umad_BrO wrote: »
    Maintenance is necessary to keep the servers running. A couple of hours to keep us away from not being able to play at all is not something I'd choose to complain about...

    I agree, but an alternative offline mode needs to be introduced fast, everybody is getting tired of weekly downtime, especially eso plus paid members.

    uhm...im a plus member.

    i dunno what that has to do with anything? im just tired of the downtimes when im home early and cant play or the maint is going on way longer than announced x)


    other then that, i understand that they are needed and try to get other stuff done.
    or...search the forums :D
  • UrQuan
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    Umad_BrO wrote: »
    Maintenance is necessary to keep the servers running. A couple of hours to keep us away from not being able to play at all is not something I'd choose to complain about...

    I agree, but an alternative offline mode needs to be introduced fast, everybody is getting tired of weekly downtime, especially eso plus paid members.
    An offline mode. In an MMO. Yeah, OK, if you want to see people who have hacked their characters to be absolute god mode.
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  • Egonieser
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    If this maintenance is going to fix some of the lags we've been getting lately I'm all for it. Last week's maintenance didn't do jack [snip], it was alright for the first 2 hours, then the lag came back as per usual.

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    Edited by ZOS_Brett on October 28, 2015 6:13AM
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  • nine9six
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    ZoS, do what you need to do.
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  • AzraelKrieg
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    Egonieser wrote: »
    If this maintenance is going to fix some of the lags we've been getting lately I'm all for it. Last week's maintenance didn't do jack [snip], it was alright for the first 2 hours, then the lag came back as per usual.

    Neither this week nor last week's maintenances were for game related issues.

    [Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]
    Edited by ZOS_Brett on October 28, 2015 6:14AM
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  • Brrrofski
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    You have to realise that you're the smaller playerbase by far.

    They do maintenance at times that inconveniences the least amount of people.

    Will some get inconvenienced? Yes, they will. But only the minority.
  • FortheloveofKrist
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    nordsavage wrote: »
    Umm, the point is that is our night-time here, our prime time (so no sun for us even at this time of day). It was fine when it was Monday night, but moving it Tuesday night and with a start time of 7pm (5am EDT) means that for all of us, that is one whole night gone.

    Could you imagine the screams if they had maintenance on a US evening?

    Then go play on the Australian servers . . . oh that's right this game was made and is maintained by us Americans. Sorry dude go play with a kangaroo.
    And then Americans wonder why people have a bad opinion of them...

    Wow, I've had fairly benign comments *edited* and this person can spew anti-Australian BS like this? Americans like this make it difficult to proudly claim I'm an American.
  • mystercee
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    In response to the OP....

    The past couple of weeks of the changed time for scheduled maintenance has definitely thrown a spanner in the works. Here in Vic we already started DST and so scheduled maintenance would start at 11pm Monday night. That worked well.

    But, as the OP pointed out, the last couple of weeks it has shifted to Tuesday night our time which is around 8pm AEDST. Additionally, the maintenance, while usually only being an hour or so seems to going 5-6hrs or longer. I dunno, can't stay awake that bloody long.

    It has been implied on other threads in the forum that this change in schedule and the time involved is as a result of preparation for Orsinium. Well, considering that Orsinium is only available on the PTS I fail to see how that impacts maintenance on either of the PC megaservers.

    Like the OP, I pay for sub and I am now effectively losing 1 night's gameplay each week because of change to server maintenance schedule. Where is the kickback to compensate for the loss or at the very least an explanation of why we are getting royally screwed on game time.

    To those that think Australia/NZ/Oceania only represent a small proportion of players, I would argue strenuously that ZOS would soon notice if we were all to cancel our subs.

    Frankly I am getting sick of tired of getting the rough end of the stick. Entire game was sent into FUBAR mode after IC was released and nothing ZOS has done since seems to have addressed lag and loading issues. If not for the fact that I love Elder Scrolls so much I would have ditched this stress-inducing, frustration-fest of a MMO months ago.
  • Brrrofski
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    mystercee wrote: »
    In response to the OP....

    The past couple of weeks of the changed time for scheduled maintenance has definitely thrown a spanner in the works. Here in Vic we already started DST and so scheduled maintenance would start at 11pm Monday night. That worked well.

    But, as the OP pointed out, the last couple of weeks it has shifted to Tuesday night our time which is around 8pm AEDST. Additionally, the maintenance, while usually only being an hour or so seems to going 5-6hrs or longer. I dunno, can't stay awake that bloody long.

    It has been implied on other threads in the forum that this change in schedule and the time involved is as a result of preparation for Orsinium. Well, considering that Orsinium is only available on the PTS I fail to see how that impacts maintenance on either of the PC megaservers.

    Like the OP, I pay for sub and I am now effectively losing 1 night's gameplay each week because of change to server maintenance schedule. Where is the kickback to compensate for the loss or at the very least an explanation of why we are getting royally screwed on game time.

    To those that think Australia/NZ/Oceania only represent a small proportion of players, I would argue strenuously that ZOS would soon notice if we were all to cancel our subs.

    Frankly I am getting sick of tired of getting the rough end of the stick. Entire game was sent into FUBAR mode after IC was released and nothing ZOS has done since seems to have addressed lag and loading issues. If not for the fact that I love Elder Scrolls so much I would have ditched this stress-inducing, frustration-fest of a MMO months ago.

    I can guarantee the EU or US playerbase is a lot bigger than the Aus one.

    It sucks for you, but it's how it is.

    There's not much more to say
  • OGLezard
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    Umad_BrO wrote: »
    Maintenance is necessary to keep the servers running. A couple of hours to keep us away from not being able to play at all is not something I'd choose to complain about...

    I agree, but an alternative offline mode needs to be introduced fast, everybody is getting tired of weekly downtime, especially eso plus paid members.

    @Umad_BrO speak for yourself.....I'm a plus member for over a year and a half and I don't care lol never have. What I do care about is that they never fix anything and every day I remember why my subscription is utterly useless.....
  • SienneYviete
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    mystercee wrote: »
    In response to the OP....

    The past couple of weeks of the changed time for scheduled maintenance has definitely thrown a spanner in the works. Here in Vic we already started DST and so scheduled maintenance would start at 11pm Monday night. That worked well.

    But, as the OP pointed out, the last couple of weeks it has shifted to Tuesday night our time which is around 8pm AEDST. Additionally, the maintenance, while usually only being an hour or so seems to going 5-6hrs or longer. I dunno, can't stay awake that bloody long.

    It has been implied on other threads in the forum that this change in schedule and the time involved is as a result of preparation for Orsinium. Well, considering that Orsinium is only available on the PTS I fail to see how that impacts maintenance on either of the PC megaservers.

    Like the OP, I pay for sub and I am now effectively losing 1 night's gameplay each week because of change to server maintenance schedule. Where is the kickback to compensate for the loss or at the very least an explanation of why we are getting royally screwed on game time.

    To those that think Australia/NZ/Oceania only represent a small proportion of players, I would argue strenuously that ZOS would soon notice if we were all to cancel our subs.

    Frankly I am getting sick of tired of getting the rough end of the stick. Entire game was sent into FUBAR mode after IC was released and nothing ZOS has done since seems to have addressed lag and loading issues. If not for the fact that I love Elder Scrolls so much I would have ditched this stress-inducing, frustration-fest of a MMO months ago.

    I can guarantee the EU or US playerbase is a lot bigger than the Aus one.

    It sucks for you, but it's how it is.

    There's not much more to say

    Once again the previous schedule for maintenance was fine, it allowed a couple of hours in our prime time period before down time, it's not about that it's about the sudden change to the scheduled maintenance which could now not be any worse for us.
    Edited by SienneYviete on October 27, 2015 2:55PM
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  • CapnPhoton
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    It is an inconvenience, however, it is only once per week for a few hours. As you mention, you have families. Surely this is an opportunity here for added family time with some real activities.
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  • Umad_BrO
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    Umad_BrO wrote: »
    Maintenance is necessary to keep the servers running. A couple of hours to keep us away from not being able to play at all is not something I'd choose to complain about...

    I agree, but an alternative offline mode needs to be introduced fast, everybody is getting tired of weekly downtime, especially eso plus paid members.

    @Umad_BrO speak for yourself.....I'm a plus member for over a year and a half and I don't care lol never have. What I do care about is that they never fix anything and every day I remember why my subscription is utterly useless.....

    I believe I do speak for myself, never intended anything else.....
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  • jhharvest
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    I can guarantee the EU or US playerbase is a lot bigger than the Aus one.
    I can guarantee that the Oceanic player base is bigger than the US player base at 5am. IF the maintenance was pushed back by two hours, we could have two hours more of time to play in the evenings and hardly any US players would be impacted. Some common sense, mate.
  • mystercee
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    @SienneYviete Forget it mate, might as well be flogging dead horse. ZOS don't give a damn about their customers in general, so no reason to think they will care that what they're doing is affecting "that small minority".

    And I think it's clear the US education is lacking, since most of the replies on this thread imply a total lack of basic comprehension.

  • Umad_BrO
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    Umad_BrO wrote: »
    Maintenance is necessary to keep the servers running. A couple of hours to keep us away from not being able to play at all is not something I'd choose to complain about...

    I agree, but an alternative offline mode needs to be introduced fast, everybody is getting tired of weekly downtime, especially eso plus paid members.
    An offline mode. In an MMO. Yeah, OK, if you want to see people who have hacked their characters to be absolute god mode.

    Woa, I never thought of that man.
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  • mystercee
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    Edited by mystercee on October 27, 2015 3:14PM
  • PinoZino
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    Umad_BrO wrote: »

    I agree, but an alternative offline mode needs to be introduced fast, everybody is getting tired of weekly downtime, especially eso plus paid members.

    Why? Are they superior? The new nobility?

    You don't pay for having no weekly downtimes.
    You pay for the free access to the DLC's, the XP bonus, the Crowns and maybe some other stuff.


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  • nine9six
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    I would like to know from those complaining: when should ZoS schedule these maintenance windows?

    Keep in mind: this is a US-base server, whose vast majority of users are in US-based time zones, where the peak hours are from 5PM EST to around 2AM EST (give or take).

    Also, keep in mind any answer you give that isn't "the hours they're using now seem impact the least amount of people" will make you look like an ass.

    So, when?
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  • mystercee
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    nine9six wrote: »
    I would like to know from those complaining: when should ZoS schedule these maintenance windows?

    Keep in mind: this is a US-base server, whose vast majority of users are in US-based time zones, where the peak hours are from 5PM EST to around 2AM EST (give or take).

    Also, keep in mind any answer you give that isn't "the hours they're using now seem impact the least amount of people" will make you look like an ass.

    So, when?

    So why not have an Oceania megaserver?
  • mr_pyro87
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    if anything they should make it 1 to 2 hours earlier so it fits with my work scheduled
    plus i think the rest of the EU happier with that
  • nine9six
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    mystercee wrote: »
    nine9six wrote: »
    I would like to know from those complaining: when should ZoS schedule these maintenance windows?

    Keep in mind: this is a US-base server, whose vast majority of users are in US-based time zones, where the peak hours are from 5PM EST to around 2AM EST (give or take).

    Also, keep in mind any answer you give that isn't "the hours they're using now seem impact the least amount of people" will make you look like an ass.

    So, when?

    So why not have an Oceania megaserver?

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  • Lynnessa
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    Treaborne wrote: »
    nordsavage wrote: »
    Hey guy they do it early in the morning due to MAJORITY being offline so it is ready for peak hours. Also they are cracking on it first thing in the morning these guys have barely had coffee. Go play other games in the meantime or go get some sun.

    Good point!

    Also I like to play in the mornings, but this patch/maintenance prevents me...

    Wait a minute... ... ... I have an excellent solution! Let us all get a life and find something else to-do.

    To do list
    • Clean your room!
    • Clean your dirty clothes!
    • Clean your body take a shower!
    • Clean your bathroom/restroom!
    • Clean your dirty dishes!
    • Clean up around the house!
    • Clean up around the yard!
    • Clean up your neighborhood!
    • Clean up your ...uh wait can I goto sleep now?
    • No go do your Homework!
    • No homework? Go find a job!

    Just being silly.... B)


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    Edited by Lynnessa on October 27, 2015 4:40PM
  • Dev
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    Considering the game targets the North American and EU demographics, they should always have their time best suited for those audiences. Just because you can buy the game and connect to the servers from the oceanic location, doesnt mean that
    1. you should expect them to alter the maintenance in any way that helps you since it would potentially harm their main audience
    2. that any company should go out of their way for an audience which isnt their key demographic
    3. or that anyone in those main areas would care if you cannot play

    If it means that those not in the continent for the server have awkward or upsetting time frames for maintenance, then so be it. They have to schedule based on the audience for where they are marketing.

    I would also expect that any game produced and targeting an Oceanic audience to have their maintenance during the best time for that audience. Unfortunately though, i cannot think of any game that specifically targets that audience. perhaps if a game was made from an oceanic company targeting an oceanic player base, we wouldn't have so much angst over this?


  • Suicidal_Godot
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    Wish I had a Roo!
    I would pet it, and feed it, and call it George.

    Lol, did you also know they have huge sharp claws, smell to high heaven and drown your dogs in dams? (They jump into the middle of dams, which are water catchments on farms, lure your dog in and hold it under the water).
    Trust me... you don't want a Kangaroo :tongue:

    ...weren't there smaller species, too?

    Like, 40cm height sitting up? Or even down to rat size?

    OK, Zoology lectures date way back, but...

    ...a biggish Red or Gray brute, yay, I'd agree, would be quite some trouble. But the smaller ones (OK, might be classified as wallabies, stuff coming back to my aging brain...)?
  • SienneYviete
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    nine9six wrote: »
    I would like to know from those complaining: when should ZoS schedule these maintenance windows?

    Keep in mind: this is a US-base server, whose vast majority of users are in US-based time zones, where the peak hours are from 5PM EST to around 2AM EST (give or take).

    Also, keep in mind any answer you give that isn't "the hours they're using now seem impact the least amount of people" will make you look like an ass.

    So, when?

    As has been stated numerous times in this thread the time that maintenance has always been was fine for us as it allowed a few hours of prime time play before the server goes down... now it has been reduced to zero.

    Also it seems as though alot of people here drastically underestimate the size of the Oceanic /pacific player base in this game.
    Edited by SienneYviete on October 28, 2015 2:25AM
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  • Xendyn
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    mystercee wrote: »

    So why not have an Oceania megaserver?

    Because these...

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    Costs a whole lotta dough :p
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  • Dettne
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    The ultimate turd is always good for a turd response...he's the worst fan boy out there.
  • Mirelurk
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    So has ZOS explained anywhere why it changed from times that worked OK to times that screw Oceanic players?
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  • SienneYviete
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    Mirelurk wrote: »
    So has ZOS explained anywhere why it changed from times that worked OK to times that screw Oceanic players?

    Unfortunately no, it would be nice however to get a mod to at least confirm for us that this is not a permanent change as if this continues I suspect Oceanic subs will fall.

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