How come so few people roll(ed) DC?

Prof_Bawbag · October 2015

Asherons_Call wrote: »

IKilled007 wrote: »

I am just curious as to why most players roll(ed) EP, followed by AD, with a small minority rolling DC. Is it something in the lore? Something to do with the previous games in the Elder Scrolls series? Is it the races (and maybe their passives)? Is the geography (are the zones better in EP, are the quests more fun)? It seems that in Cyrodiil, on every campaign or almost every campaign, DC is vastly outnumbered most of the time, with maybe to to three hours where they're pop-locked with the other two factions also pop-locked.

Any theories?

Because Angier Stower's voice saying "WELCOME TO THE BANK OF DAGGERFALL" over and over in your brain wears at you after a while

The worst npc is the Bosmer merchant in Mournhold. The one in the metal/cloth crafting area. I hate, hate and hate using her. something inane like "What, never seen a woodelf ... ", every time you go to sell something.

IKilled007 · October 2015

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

DC have rolled over the last Azuras Star, by a long shot, however they did ditch Haderus and all packed into Azuras and ran the place for almost 2 weeks solid, I'm AD, put in an all nighter to take all the keeps and scrolls back, on the next morning and they had it all back again, crazy huge zergs all over the game at anytime now.

DC is getting killed on Azura. Look at the score.

Kwivur · October 2015

DC FOR LIFE!!!!!!

IKilled007 · October 2015

Kwivur wrote: »

DC FOR LIFE!!!!!!

OK OK, I hereby officially acknowledge your quest for attention.

Rust_in_Peace · October 2015

EP = Skyrim fanbabies
AD = the default faction in the character creator
DC = not enough data

Etaniel · October 2015

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

EP = Skyrim fanbabies
AD = the default faction in the character creator omg I can play a pointy eared elf with a bow and name him Legolas
DC = the majority of decent players

F7sus4 · October 2015

Because of the attitude around the so-called "top" players.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2015

F7sus4 wrote: »

Because of the attitude around the so-called "top" players.

?? care to elaborate ?

You mean EU people tend to choose EP because Hodor is EP, or something like that ?

In my understanding most players don't pursue the objective to enter an elite guild when they start the game, and as far as I know, there are elite guild in every faction... but maybe I'm mistaken.

ladyonthemoon · October 2015

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

EP = Skyrim fanbabies
AD = the default faction in the character creator
DC = not enough data

Sorry, what kind of elitism is that? "Skyrim fanbabies"?

As many have pointed out here, EP is the obvious choice for the veteran ES players: Morrowind players mostly. I personally chose EP first, not because of Morrowind or Skyrim but because of it's description:

The Ebonheart Pact is the most unlikely of the three alliances. The Nords and Dark Elves have a long history of conflict, and the Argonians were enslaved by the Dark Elves for thousands of years. ...

and also:

Jorunn, of Eastern Skyrim, is acting High King of the Great Moot, but he does not rule absolutely. His decisions must be ratified by all three races in a unique form of governance called The Great Moot. ...

I created other characters in the other factions because I wanted to see the places and play the game as widely as possible.

Daraugh · October 2015

This one started AD, but much prefers DC now. Ayrenn is so annoying, "all that royal we nonsense" etc. If you want to be queen, be queen, if you want to run off and be an adventurer then do so. It's the ingratiating manner she assumes, as if she needs to talk down to a Khajiit on our level. The idea that the Khajiit and Bosmer need raising up, sounds just like the Dunmer helping out the Argonians.

King Jorunn is fine, this one admits she really wanted to see Skyrim! But Dunmer... she just cannot stand dark elves. Bosmer are tolerable, what with their tree obsession and all, rather amusing to this one. Altmer, also amusing. Their loftiness is a parody of themselves, which this one finds amusing in a more ironic way.

Emeric is the most tolerable. He is king, but can admit weakness and ask for help without fawning. That is a strength.

F7sus4 · October 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

F7sus4 wrote: »

Because of the attitude around the so-called "top" players.

You mean EU people tend to choose EP because Hodor is EP, or something like that ?

We're talking about DC and they're commonly accused on being elitist.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2015

ladyonthemoon wrote: »

Elektrakosh wrote: »

ladyonthemoon wrote: »

My question would be: why do people chose only one faction? Instead of playing the three. I have three characters, one for each faction.

Because you get to play all three factions anyway after the main quests. Cadwell's Silver and Gold.

I don't understand this but I don't want to know more.

We cannot explain without spoiling you (however, if you don't want to be spoilt, you'd better avoid these forums altogether, we're not too careful with it).

However, in order to NOT GET frustrated at SOME POINT, you might consider leveling one of your characters to level VR1 first, instead of leveling all 3 in parallel. Then you'll have options you'll understand and can choose from in full knowledge.

Rioht · October 2015

DC has the nicest beaches

ladyonthemoon · October 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

However, in order to NOT GET frustrated at SOME POINT, you might consider leveling one of your characters to level VR1 first, instead of leveling all 3 in parallel. Then you'll have options you'll understand and can choose from in full knowledge.

So far I haven't read much things that spoilt the game for me yet (a lot less actually that I could read about Skyrim on the Bethsoft forums). There are also lots of vocabulary I don't even understand. My current characters are level 7 and 5. I don't really play them one after another in order to have them levelling in parallel; I just pick up one that I feel like playing.

So, what is this "VR1" you're talking about?

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2015

ladyonthemoon wrote: »

So, what is this "VR1" you're talking about?

VR = Veteran Rank.
ESO has 66 levels : 50 standard levels and 16 veteran ranks.
(well technically level 50 IS VR1 so it's 65 levels but let's forget that ;-).

Once you've reached level 50 you become "VR1" or "Veteran Rank 1" and you have access to Veteran dungeons and Craglorn. But still you have 15 more "levels" to "progress" before reaching max level.

By then you'll have discovered and played probably 95% of the game's content and will not need another character from another alliance to discover it.

For many people that's where the game ends (they've discovered it all) but for for many other people this is where the game begins, with competitive endgame content and competitive PvP.

ladyonthemoon wrote: »

So far I haven't read much things that spoilt the game for me yet (a lot less actually that I could read about Skyrim on the Bethsoft forums)

That's because people on this forum are generally more inclined to discuss game's mechanics and evolution, and the community, rather than the story, the environment and the lore. But you'll still find posts about that.

ladyonthemoon · October 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

VR = Veteran Rank.
ESO has 66 levels : 50 standard levels and 16 veteran ranks. ... Once you've reached level 50 you become "VR1" or "Veteran Rank 1" and you have access to Veteran dungeons and Craglorn. But still you have 15 more "levels" to "progress" before reaching max level.

Ah, thank you. Oh, by the way, didn't I read somewhere that veterans ranks are due to be removed?

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

For many people that's where the game ends ...

Funny, I've never considered any ES game as "finished". Replaying the same quests with different characters has never been a problem for me. There's always something new to see, unless ESO is very different...

Marrtha · October 2015

I have played only DC so I can't comment the population of other factions, but so far DC hasn't seemed 'outnumbered' in any way.

zornyan · October 2015

Rodvic wrote: »

zornyan wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

IKilled007 wrote: »

I am just curious as to why most players roll(ed) EP, followed by AD, with a small minority rolling DC. Is it something in the lore? Something to do with the previous games in the Elder Scrolls series? Is it the races (and maybe their passives)? Is the geography (are the zones better in EP, are the quests more fun)? It seems that in Cyrodiil, on every campaign or almost every campaign, DC is vastly outnumbered most of the time, with maybe to to three hours where they're pop-locked with the other two factions also pop-locked.

Any theories?

Because Angier Stower's voice saying "WELCOME TO THE BANK OF DAGGERFALL" over and over in your brain wears at you after a while

Lol

Paazhahdrimaak wrote: »

I see most people who have never played another elder scrolls game like the DC, it's more fimillar to them, while the real fans want to see morrowind again or explore the Summerset Isles. Sees like the kids and newbies like daggerfall. Just my opinion.

Or maybe we wanted to see daggerfall again, since most of the kids wanted skyrim online and are more recent to the series, unlike myself and many of my guild mates that actually remember the original tes games....

Considering daggerfall is quite a bit older than both skyrim and morrowind , it seems more likely that kids play EP

Yes, it couldn't possibly have anything to do with people just liking the EP races.

Well since redguard are one of the best stamina race choice, and breton are one of the best magicka races I wouldn't put it down to that entirely.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2015

ladyonthemoon wrote: »

Ah, thank you. Oh, by the way, didn't I read somewhere that veterans ranks are due to be removed?

Let's say... there's or there's been a plan to remove them (because people thought the road to "endgame" - where it all begins according to them - was too long). That was like at the beginning of 2015.
But since then it's been delayed and postponed and contradicted and discussed... and for now all we can say is that we don't know whether the Veteran Ranks will be removed or not.

In my humble opinion it doesn't matter much, there will always be a progression system and whatever it's called doesn't make any real difference. The tiering of gear might be heavily impacted, though.

Kwivur · October 2015

IKilled007 wrote: »

Kwivur wrote: »

DC FOR LIFE!!!!!!

OK OK, I hereby officially acknowledge your quest for attention.

Was I supposed to say something else?

RDMyers65b14_ESO · October 2015

Gern_Verkheart wrote: »

So few?! Have you been in Cyrodiil on Azura? DC always has 3 full zergs minimum. They have so many players in there that they lag out the server.

Nope, not even close. You must be color blind as the only ones who have that kind of population to run that many is the EP. Occasionally the AD can run that many, but the DC is usually outnumbered four to one minimum.

Kwivur · October 2015

RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »

Gern_Verkheart wrote: »

So few?! Have you been in Cyrodiil on Azura? DC always has 3 full zergs minimum. They have so many players in there that they lag out the server.

Nope, not even close. You must be color blind as the only ones who have that kind of population to run that many is the EP. Occasionally the AD can run that many, but the DC is usually outnumbered four to one minimum.

I never see DC in huge groups, maybe a few separate groups of 10 to 15, but hardly ever a zerg.

Shadesofkin · October 2015

I rolled EP because the guild that we formed voted on EP. Now I'm just too stubborn to roll anything else. *If* there was a faction switch I'd almost certainly go to DC.

UrQuan · October 2015

Jura23 wrote: »

Winterpsy wrote: »

We have no dwarves here.
We have Nords instead. Pretty much the same, just tall instead of short.
Icons of the rough macho-macho man!

They should at least give us dwarf polymorph. Fantasy game with no dwarves... that's just wrong.

I take it this is your first Elder Scrolls game? There are no living dwarves, because they all vanished mysteriously long ago, during the same event that resulted in the dark elves looking so distinctly different from other elves.

In a nutshell, the the dwarves (dwemer) were trying to harness the power of the Heart of Lorkhan (Lorkhan was the creator god who convinced the Aedra to help him create Nirn) during the Battle of Red Mountain (they were engaged in a massive war with the dunmer - who were then known as the chimer). It didn't go as planned, and all of the dwemer disappeared, leaving behind only their ruins, constructs, and artifacts.

Dwarven ruins and artifacts play a large role in ESO, as well as other Elder Scrolls games. Just because there aren't any living dwarves (OK, OK, there is one, but he hasn't made an appearance in ESO, and he's unlikely to do so) doesn't mean that this is a game with no dwarves.

UrQuan · October 2015

ladyonthemoon wrote: »

As many have pointed out here, EP is the obvious choice for the veteran ES players: Morrowind players mostly.

Wouldn't truly veteran ES players be more likely to play DC? After all, Daggerfall came out long before Morrowind, and I'd think that the true vets who played it would be more interested to see the setting of that game updated, rather than going back to lands that have been explored in more recent TES games. Plus, DC has Stros M'kai for anyone nostalgic for Redguard (which I never played myself, but I recently picked up on the cheap and am going to play to see how Stros M'kai was portrayed in that game).

Taz · October 2015

I initially picked DC because it was the faction most suited to pirates, but now play a mix of DC and EP. I can't bring myself to go AD because Ayrenn is too much of a Mary Sue for me and I remember before the game came out how many high profile players repeatedly screamed "FOR THE QUEEN" and talked about how hot she was so eh. I like EP's environment a bit over DC, though I like characters we meet in DC better- DC's environment just feels a little bit more of the same sometimes, though I still enjoy and play the faction.

DC has never seemed empty to me in the world, though, only in PvP, but I play NA/PC.

Gyudan · October 2015

Come join us. Reroll DC.

Kwivur · October 2015

Gyudan wrote: »

Come join us. Reroll DC.

DC FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!

Marcusito · October 2015

I started as EP and was steadfast against going AD. There were two podcasters I think that were brothers that printed up and sold "for the queen" tshirts. If that was not bad enough they had no idea what they were talking about in terms of a actual gameplay and contributed to the ESO hatewagon. My motivation for rolling EP was finding them and destroying them in Cyrodil. They were great Elder Scrolls lore masters but horrible MMO players. Anyway, I was in this high end community we'll call "Chokenwhine" that was EP. Not more than 3 weeks after launch the GM quit ESO after writing a 5 page vampire nightblade QQ manifesto and I quote, "I'm going to go play a real MMO" (ArcheAge). Lulz, this GM has been a "developer" and was miffed Zen didn't let him I their inner circle. Dude, wasted the time and effort of about 60 people who had to attend hours of meetings before the game even launched. Long story short they tried to undermine the guy they promoted to GM, took about 30 good players to ArcheAge. Then 3 months later their ArcheAge and Wildstar guilds folded and I guess their EP guild is still going. I'd avoid those guys like the plague, solid players and good people but their GM was one of the worst examples of the human condition I'd ever come across in gaming.

Anyway, rerolled DC, have 8 DC characters and never looked back. There are lots of average casual guilds out there and there is really no motivation in this game to be loyal to any one guild. That said there are some good guilds out there that get content done but it was a long road for me to find them. Took me almost a year to find guilds that fit my playstyle and schedule, but I've had the most fun is this game I've had the past week in PvP.

Go DC.

LBxFinalDeath · October 2015

The funniest posts I've seen here are the people saying "EP is the go to for older players and true fans because Morrowind and Skyrim."

Are you kidding me?

Do you even know theres a game named Daggerfall and it came out ages before Skyrim and Morrowind?

If anything old school ES fans will ditch EP/AD and go DC unless they are too young to even know about Daggerfall if we're gonna talk about nostalgia.

I still want wereboars.