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When will the double and triple load screens stop?

Ashaerien
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Every time I zone in to any place, or log in, I get the initial loading screen with the picture of the area and the quote for about 1 minute. Then I get another reload screen for about a few seconds, then again for a split second, and again for a split second.

Is this being patched in Orsinium? Does this even happen to anybody else?
  • Artemisshrikes
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    iv never had that my load screen last only bout 15-20 seconds
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  • Ashaerien
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    iv never had that my load screen last only bout 15-20 seconds

    My goodness it happens to me all the time. The screens are only split seconds, but there's a 50/50 chance they teleport me underground and I take ~50k in fall damage.
  • ontheleftcoast
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    Yeah it gets... <loading, please wait> really annoying when.. <loading, please wait> the text for the.. <loading, please wait> you're about to enter <loading, please wait> flashes by in an inst.. <loading, please wait> ant.
  • Ashaerien
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    Elder_III wrote: »
    I get it daily, sometimes many times a day. It's very much a huge problem, but it doesn't seem to affect everyone. Loading screens are between 1-3 minutes for me most of the time as well. It was 5-10 seconds prior to IC DLC, 5-10+ minutes for a couple weeks after that update. It's gradually improved after that point to where it is now and has been for about 3 weeks. :( I know I've changed my game time significantly because of it... no more bouncing between characters without careful thought ahead of time due to the loading screens everywhere....

    Yeah... I'm not quite sure why the loading screen time changed. It's so annoying, I hate having to bounce toons as well to move mats for writs around, lol...
  • mtwiggz
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    The mighty Load Screen boss is totally out of hand. ZoS definitely needs to focus on nerfing this before people unsub. What's next? Nerfing Bolt Escape? Nerfing roll dodge? Stamina regen while blocking? Cloak nerf? I blame the Load Screen for all of this nonsense.
  • Keepercraft
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    I analyse why is another loading screen.
    #1 solution is to install your ESO game at SSD partition. (that can make faster access and load date from ROM to RAM, only)
    #2 solution is that Zenimax need to do x64bit game client for allocate more memory commit at RAM.

    But if you change zone location, that 60-90% of loading time is game waiting for access to new zone server. So that is a Zenimax server problem. :/
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    Edited by Keepercraft on October 21, 2015 1:42AM
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  • Sausage
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    They need to add more servers. A few days ago I played with one German dude and his loading screens were almost instant. ESO servers are located in German. I get always unusually long loading screens when I go from Sewers to IC, for example. Bad servers, IMHO, probably why Cyrodil is such a lagfest too.
    Edited by Sausage on October 21, 2015 3:47AM
  • Keepercraft
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    Sausage wrote: »
    ESO servers are located in German
    Nope, in UK.
    login server: http://www.cqcounter.com/whois/?query=159.100.232.114
    one of many zone servers: http://cqcounter.com/traceroute/?query=159.100.232.124
    Edited by Keepercraft on October 21, 2015 4:12AM
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  • Runicus
    Sausage wrote: »
    They need to add more servers. A few days ago I played with one German dude and his loading screens were almost instant. ESO servers are located in German. I get always unusually long loading screens when I go from Sewers to IC, for example. Bad servers, IMHO, probably why Cyrodil is such a lagfest too.

    I don't mean to rain on your parade but the same thing is happening on NA megaservers. I'm experiencing longer load screens and then 2-3 more when running in the area. Problem on my end seems tied to ping/lag and FPS. I read somewhere on the forum that ping and FPS are related as event sync between client and server ticks with FPS.

    I had no problem for months in the past then this loading/FPS/ping problem started showing after IC patch. Somehow it magically went away and i ran smoothly past 2 weeks only for the problem to come back mysteriously 2 days ago....mind boggling.

  • Jura23
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    I'm actually grateful when I get second loading screen because the alternative is crash in my case. :D
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  • Winterpsy
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    Most funny thing ever:

    PvP clash reds vs yellows. Big epic battle over some petty resource, 30 vs 30.

    Sudden loading screen of death out of nowwhere hits the reds. But not the yellows. As after it was over every red was laying face down in a puddle. Whole front of the reds froze.

    It was ridiculous watching how everyone frozen mid action on one side ( I managed to get out of the loading screen a bit swifter then others, watching the reds just standing still taking on the beating)

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  • Vildebill
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    If i remember correct they talked about this on the latest ESO Live in September. Since some people got the loading screen of hell that would last like 5-10 minutes, they implemented some check code to make them go away. That code on the other hand had some checks that made the normal loading times way much worse. Hopefully they have acknowledged this and will fix it in the Orsinium update since it sucks bigtime.
    Edited by Vildebill on October 21, 2015 8:39AM
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  • Keepercraft
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    Winterpsy wrote: »
    Most funny thing ever:
    PvP clash reds vs yellows. Big epic battle over some petty resource, 30 vs 30.

    You mean red vs yellow&blue. :P
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  • Robbmrp
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    Yeah, these double/triple screens are a pain for sure. Then they toss in the falling and you die before you've even logged on. They need to fix these pretty quick!
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  • Winterpsy
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    Winterpsy wrote: »
    Most funny thing ever:
    PvP clash reds vs yellows. Big epic battle over some petty resource, 30 vs 30.

    You mean red vs yellow&blue. :P

    Ahahaha, you were there?
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  • Egonieser
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    Ashaerien wrote: »
    Every time I zone in to any place, or log in, I get the initial loading screen with the picture of the area and the quote for about 1 minute. Then I get another reload screen for about a few seconds, then again for a split second, and again for a split second.

    Is this being patched in Orsinium? Does this even happen to anybody else?

    I get that occasionally. Mostly after a PC reboot as the RAM and cache is cleared so it's naturally going to be prolonged. What gets me is that after a brief period when I login, you often fall through the floor and then another short loading screen appears and i am back where i was.
    Edited by Egonieser on October 21, 2015 2:06PM
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  • Keepercraft
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    Winterpsy wrote: »
    Winterpsy wrote: »
    Most funny thing ever:
    PvP clash reds vs yellows. Big epic battle over some petty resource, 30 vs 30.

    You mean red vs yellow&blue. :P

    Ahahaha, you were there?
    It's funny when yellow and blue want to kill me and put CC aoe on each other. :D
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  • Keepercraft
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    Egonieser wrote: »
    Ashaerien wrote: »
    Every time I zone in to any place, or log in, I get the initial loading screen with the picture of the area and the quote for about 1 minute. Then I get another reload screen for about a few seconds, then again for a split second, and again for a split second.

    Is this being patched in Orsinium? Does this even happen to anybody else?

    I get that occasionally. Mostly after a PC reboot as the RAM and cache is cleared so it's naturally going to be prolonged. What gets me is that after a brief period when I login, you often fall through the floor and then another short loading screen appears and i am back where i was.

    ESO game client use to low RAM memory commit.
    Heroes of the storm use more memory and have x64bit game client.
    Still waiting for Sithis.
  • sekhem
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    Wow third loading screen...! Lucky duck! I only get a second one sometimes. I think you deserve an award. ;)
    Wait lets take a poll...what is the highest number of loading screens you have gotten at one time?
    Winner gets everyone's sympathy.
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  • Hope499
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    iv never had that my load screen last only bout 15-20 seconds

    Holy *** really?

    Lucky as hell then. it is one of the reasons I only play for 15 min before I stop....

    Its over a min - 2 min every time.
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  • Tandor
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    My loading screens rarely take more than 30 seconds or so, and the longest has probably been under a minute. A couple of times in the last year or so I've been running through a city and had a loading screen appear and instantly disappear with no ill-effect. I've never fallen through the floor. I think I've had 2 crashes to desktop since the PC launch (one of them I reckoned was almost certainly sound-related as it happened when two NPC's speeches over-lapped).

    If these sorts of things are down to the servers including the need for more of them, why do some players get the problem and not others when both are playing on the same servers? Does anyone have experience of resolving such issues by doing anything at their end e.g. changing ISP, adding more RAM, or upgrading/clearing a hard drive etc? Even if the problem is server-side (and for some reason only affecting some players), has anyone found any such change at their end to work at least by way of a workaround?

    Incidentally, I've never used any addons, and my Nvidia drivers are over 3 years old. If it ain't broke I don't fix it!

    Edited by Tandor on October 21, 2015 3:01PM
  • Runicus
    Tandor wrote: »
    My loading screens rarely take more than 30 seconds or so, and the longest has probably been under a minute. A couple of times in the last year or so I've been running through a city and had a loading screen appear and instantly disappear with no ill-effect. I've never fallen through the floor. I think I've had 2 crashes to desktop since the PC launch (one of them I reckoned was almost certainly sound-related as it happened when two NPC's speeches over-lapped).

    If these sorts of things are down to the servers including the need for more of them, why do some players get the problem and not others when both are playing on the same servers? Does anyone have experience of resolving such issues by doing anything at their end e.g. changing ISP, adding more RAM, or upgrading/clearing a hard drive etc? Even if the problem is server-side (and for some reason only affecting some players), has anyone found any such change at their end to work at least by way of a workaround?

    Incidentally, I've never used any addons, and my Nvidia drivers are over 3 years old. If it ain't broke I don't fix it!

    One big misconception is that there is one server and one world. That is not the case. There is a megaserver on the back end which has access to the entire pool of players but that doesn't mean it serves everyone in the same place at the same time inside Tamriel, it would be unplayable. What the server does is that it creates, deletes, merges multiple virtual instances with a target to have a consistent load in each shard.

    Thus there is only one server on the logon screen but the megaserver splits everyone on the back end to make the game playable. And while the megaserver technology looks like "one server" it is in fact multiple machines and they are not necessarily using the same IP address or domain. That part is obfuscated to players.

    Another proof that not everything is on the same machine and that there are in fact multiple machines (with their own physical limitation) on this megaserver technology is the recent Ravenspire lag. This particular zone was severely impacted and it was only Ravenspire alone and not the entire server. One can thus assume the megaserver technology probably includes dedicated machines for specific zone and load is passed between servers as the player moves around. It would make sense as it would make it easier to optimize the server for the specific content it is hosting.

    I'm spurting a lot of speculation right now but one thing that is for sure is that the "megaserver" is NOT one big machine with one big IP address. It's clearly a cluster and it's bound to have normal technical issues like load balancing, switch configuration problem, firewall rules, etc. After all, it's still a bunch of dudes maintaining a bunch of hardware with lots of cables and sometimes *** happens.
  • Tandor
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    Runicus wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    My loading screens rarely take more than 30 seconds or so, and the longest has probably been under a minute. A couple of times in the last year or so I've been running through a city and had a loading screen appear and instantly disappear with no ill-effect. I've never fallen through the floor. I think I've had 2 crashes to desktop since the PC launch (one of them I reckoned was almost certainly sound-related as it happened when two NPC's speeches over-lapped).

    If these sorts of things are down to the servers including the need for more of them, why do some players get the problem and not others when both are playing on the same servers? Does anyone have experience of resolving such issues by doing anything at their end e.g. changing ISP, adding more RAM, or upgrading/clearing a hard drive etc? Even if the problem is server-side (and for some reason only affecting some players), has anyone found any such change at their end to work at least by way of a workaround?

    Incidentally, I've never used any addons, and my Nvidia drivers are over 3 years old. If it ain't broke I don't fix it!

    One big misconception is that there is one server and one world. That is not the case. There is a megaserver on the back end which has access to the entire pool of players but that doesn't mean it serves everyone in the same place at the same time inside Tamriel, it would be unplayable. What the server does is that it creates, deletes, merges multiple virtual instances with a target to have a consistent load in each shard.

    Thus there is only one server on the logon screen but the megaserver splits everyone on the back end to make the game playable. And while the megaserver technology looks like "one server" it is in fact multiple machines and they are not necessarily using the same IP address or domain. That part is obfuscated to players.

    Another proof that not everything is on the same machine and that there are in fact multiple machines (with their own physical limitation) on this megaserver technology is the recent Ravenspire lag. This particular zone was severely impacted and it was only Ravenspire alone and not the entire server. One can thus assume the megaserver technology probably includes dedicated machines for specific zone and load is passed between servers as the player moves around. It would make sense as it would make it easier to optimize the server for the specific content it is hosting.

    I'm spurting a lot of speculation right now but one thing that is for sure is that the "megaserver" is NOT one big machine with one big IP address. It's clearly a cluster and it's bound to have normal technical issues like load balancing, switch configuration problem, firewall rules, etc. After all, it's still a bunch of dudes maintaining a bunch of hardware with lots of cables and sometimes *** happens.

    I fully understand all that, and never thought for one moment that a megaserver consisted of one server. I recall being amazed many years ago by being told how many individual pieces of hardware made up a single EQ server - and here we're talking about megaservers rather than a standard server. However, there's nothing to suggest that people who have the problem are all on the same server, and that those who don't have the problem aren't also playing on the same servers as those who do have the problem.
  • F7sus4
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    Tandor wrote: »
    However, there's nothing to suggest that people who have the problem are all on the same server, and that those who don't have the problem aren't also playing on the same servers as those who do have the problem.
    I'd lean towards the opinion that the problem is either based on: 1) a server internal desync/delay issue with instancing (or micro-queueing) currently logged on players that are switching zones, 2) money-savings that ZOS might have decided to do on the servers that affected the final performance.
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  • altemriel
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    this happened to me only like once or twice fortunatelly
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Since people are still posting about this topic and no one has mentioned the most recent statement made by Zenimax I shall illuminate the subject for those that do not know about it:

    Zenimax stated they are well aware of the current issue with loading screens and are working on it. However, it is not something so simple to fix. They are doing what they can behind the scenes to fix it so there may be times when you notice it isn't as bad compared to recent past loading screens.

    So basically, have patience. They are doing everything they can to resolve the issue.
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  • DaveTheMinion
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    If I am playing my Sorc I don't have an issue with the loading screen but if I swap to my NB I get longer screen loading times and sometimes the double load???
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    If I am playing my Sorc I don't have an issue with the loading screen but if I swap to my NB I get longer screen loading times and sometimes the double load???

    Because the current issue is longer loading screens on Vet Rank Characters.
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