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Soulshine✭✭✭✭✭
✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but these were revealed as coming along with a Zombie Horse and will be available between October 22nd up until Orsinium launch on PC. The Mind-Shriven Horse will also be unavailable as of said launch. As for the rest, datamining guarantees nothing beyond the fact the data exists.
Now then many of you don't want the stuff because it breaks immersion, is counter-intuitative to Nirn's ways, etc. but others do want them. Besides, we already have Draugr Wolves in this game so yeah they've already broken this wall down hard...
Also consider TESV: Skyrim had a headless horseman wandering around. So yeah this isn't really as unreasonable as many think and it's fair to those that have been crying out for holiday events.
Is this fair to everyone? No.
Is anything ever fair to everyone? No.
Is that just how it is? Yes.
There is no such thing as a game that can perfectly please every single one of its players. Those it doesn't please either quit or continue to play with a disgruntled demeanor.
Not really; some of us play happily resting on all our crowns that we can spend on other things we don't find silly so it's all good.
Which was the point I was making lol one man's trash is another man's treasure and all that.
Your statements included the assumption that people would also "either quit or continue to play with a disgruntled demeanor," which is just rubbish. Nobody is going to quit over something they find ridiculous in the first place, they will just laugh at the mere idea of spending money in this - I know I am, hehe. So much for disgruntled demeanor. : P0 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but these were revealed as coming along with a Zombie Horse and will be available between October 22nd up until Orsinium launch on PC. The Mind-Shriven Horse will also be unavailable as of said launch. As for the rest, datamining guarantees nothing beyond the fact the data exists.
Now then many of you don't want the stuff because it breaks immersion, is counter-intuitative to Nirn's ways, etc. but others do want them. Besides, we already have Draugr Wolves in this game so yeah they've already broken this wall down hard...
Also consider TESV: Skyrim had a headless horseman wandering around. So yeah this isn't really as unreasonable as many think and it's fair to those that have been crying out for holiday events.
Is this fair to everyone? No.
Is anything ever fair to everyone? No.
Is that just how it is? Yes.
There is no such thing as a game that can perfectly please every single one of its players. Those it doesn't please either quit or continue to play with a disgruntled demeanor.
Not really; some of us play happily resting on all our crowns that we can spend on other things we don't find silly so it's all good.
Which was the point I was making lol one man's trash is another man's treasure and all that.
Your statements included the assumption that people would also "either quit or continue to play with a disgruntled demeanor," which is just rubbish. Nobody is going to quit over something they find ridiculous in the first place, they will just laugh at the mere idea of spending money in this - I know I am, hehe. So much for disgruntled demeanor. : P
Clearly you don't know people then lol
Sure there is a middle area where people just don't care either way but some of those people may try to find something to gripe about like "why are you wasting time adding this when this could be done instead?!".Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
Proud Founder of the Yaysay cult! DOWN WITH THE NAYSAY CULT!! #ToxicRemedy0 -
Soulshine✭✭✭✭✭
✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but these were revealed as coming along with a Zombie Horse and will be available between October 22nd up until Orsinium launch on PC. The Mind-Shriven Horse will also be unavailable as of said launch. As for the rest, datamining guarantees nothing beyond the fact the data exists.
Now then many of you don't want the stuff because it breaks immersion, is counter-intuitative to Nirn's ways, etc. but others do want them. Besides, we already have Draugr Wolves in this game so yeah they've already broken this wall down hard...
Also consider TESV: Skyrim had a headless horseman wandering around. So yeah this isn't really as unreasonable as many think and it's fair to those that have been crying out for holiday events.
Is this fair to everyone? No.
Is anything ever fair to everyone? No.
Is that just how it is? Yes.
There is no such thing as a game that can perfectly please every single one of its players. Those it doesn't please either quit or continue to play with a disgruntled demeanor.
Not really; some of us play happily resting on all our crowns that we can spend on other things we don't find silly so it's all good.
Which was the point I was making lol one man's trash is another man's treasure and all that.
Your statements included the assumption that people would also "either quit or continue to play with a disgruntled demeanor," which is just rubbish. Nobody is going to quit over something they find ridiculous in the first place, they will just laugh at the mere idea of spending money in this - I know I am, hehe. So much for disgruntled demeanor. : P
Clearly you don't know people then lol
Sure there is a middle area where people just don't care either way but some of those people may try to find something to gripe about like "why are you wasting time adding this when this could be done instead?!".
I have seen every gripe there is since been around here since beta and added a few of my own to the plate - in spades. But no, throwing out those kinds of generalizations of when it comes to this is just a thinly veiled swipe at people who are saying they don't like the stuff. Not cool.Edited by Soulshine on October 20, 2015 6:33AM0 -
Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As I've said many times before @paleobonesb14_ESO, if ZOS wanted to establish a calendar for ESO to put the 13th of Frost Fall on October 31st I would be completely fine with that... but that would require all other days to be offset.
The fact is that ZOS is bastardizing the Witches Festival to celebrate and cash in on Halloween. All I asked was that the polymorphs be sold so we can have them for the witches festival. (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/221551/witches-festival-crown-store-items-an-issue-with-timing/p1) I would have been fine with them being sold THROUGH Halloween. I just wanted them to also be available on or prior to October 13th.
If ZOS saw fit to do that I would have bought them. Now I won't out of principal. They are releasing these for Halloween. To claim anything different is insulting.
Without a calendar the most logical and reasonable thing to do is consider our calendar and ESO's calendar to be synched in the same way most MMOs synch calendars. Personally... I'd prefer the calendar not be synched. I go over a concept here that would make room for both real-world and Tamrielic holidays in ESO. (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/171830/day-length-adjustment-holiday-implementation-concept/p1)
I accept the polymorphs as "lore friendly"... I actually like them quite a bit! But the timing is outright disrespectful to the lore and to the players. At this point it seems like ZOS is just seeing how far off lore they can go. Like they want to see how much we will accept. In two years we will probably have reindeer mounts with elf pets carrying packages wrapped in red with green bows.
I'm not being a stick in the mud @paleobonesb14_ESO, I'm using that stick to draw a line in the sludge. ZOS has shown that they are willing to outright disregard the lore but then still pretend that they show it reverence. You may be willing to accept the propaganda and convince yourself that these AREN'T Halloween items, good for you. I'm just not willing to do that.
And if you don't care about lore... write me off as a weirdo lore freak that needs to get a life.Edited by Gidorick on October 20, 2015 6:49AMWhat ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!2 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but these were revealed as coming along with a Zombie Horse and will be available between October 22nd up until Orsinium launch on PC. The Mind-Shriven Horse will also be unavailable as of said launch. As for the rest, datamining guarantees nothing beyond the fact the data exists.
Now then many of you don't want the stuff because it breaks immersion, is counter-intuitative to Nirn's ways, etc. but others do want them. Besides, we already have Draugr Wolves in this game so yeah they've already broken this wall down hard...
Also consider TESV: Skyrim had a headless horseman wandering around. So yeah this isn't really as unreasonable as many think and it's fair to those that have been crying out for holiday events.
Is this fair to everyone? No.
Is anything ever fair to everyone? No.
Is that just how it is? Yes.
There is no such thing as a game that can perfectly please every single one of its players. Those it doesn't please either quit or continue to play with a disgruntled demeanor.
Not really; some of us play happily resting on all our crowns that we can spend on other things we don't find silly so it's all good.
Which was the point I was making lol one man's trash is another man's treasure and all that.
Your statements included the assumption that people would also "either quit or continue to play with a disgruntled demeanor," which is just rubbish. Nobody is going to quit over something they find ridiculous in the first place, they will just laugh at the mere idea of spending money in this - I know I am, hehe. So much for disgruntled demeanor. : P
Clearly you don't know people then lol
Sure there is a middle area where people just don't care either way but some of those people may try to find something to gripe about like "why are you wasting time adding this when this could be done instead?!".
I have seen every gripe there is since been around here since beta and added a few of my own to the plate - in spades. But no, throwing out those kinds of generalizations of when it comes to this is just a thinly veiled swipe at people who are saying they don't like the stuff. Not cool.
It's not about that. Yes it is a generalization but it isn't at just one side of the coin. What I'm saying is there are people that are pleased with the content and stay and then there are those that are not and either take it regardless or quit. And then as I mentioned there is a middle sector that favors neither side usually because the content has no influence on them. However, as I also pointed out, people tend to find something to complain about just to nitpick or, for no reason whatsoever, complain. People are people, and no one can make all of them happy.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
Proud Founder of the Yaysay cult! DOWN WITH THE NAYSAY CULT!! #ToxicRemedy0 -
Rampeal✭✭✭✭✭As I've said many times before @paleobonesb14_ESO, if ZOS wanted to establish a calendar for ESO to put the 13th of Frost Fall on October 31st I would be completely fine with that... but that would require all other days to be offset.
The fact is that ZOS is bastardizing the Witches Festival to celebrate and cash in on Halloween. All I asked was that the polymorphs be sold so we can have them for the witches festival. (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/221551/witches-festival-crown-store-items-an-issue-with-timing/p1) I would have been fine with them being sold THROUGH Halloween. I just wanted them to also be available on or prior to October 13th.
If ZOS saw fit to do that I would have bought them. Now I won't out of principal. They are releasing these for Halloween. To claim anything different is insulting.
Without a calendar the most logical and reasonable thing to do is consider our calendar and ESO's calendar to be synched in the same way most MMOs synch calendars. Personally... I'd prefer the calendar not be synched. I go over a concept here that would make room for both real-world and Tamrielic holidays in ESO. (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/171830/day-length-adjustment-holiday-implementation-concept/p1)
I accept the polymorphs as "lore friendly"... I actually like them quite a bit! But the timing is outright disrespectful to the lore and to the players. At this point it seems like ZOS is just seeing how far off lore they can go. Like they want to see how much we will accept. In two years we will probably have reindeer mounts with elf pets carrying packages wrapped in red with green bows.
I'm not being a stick in the mud @paleobonesb14_ESO, I'm using that stick to draw a line in the sludge. ZOS has shown that they are willing to outright disregard the lore but then still pretend that they show it reverence. You may be willing to accept the propaganda and convince yourself that these AREN'T Halloween items, good for you. I'm just not willing to do that.
And if you don't care about lore... write me off as a weirdo lore freak that needs to get a life.
I understand your frustration, but I do not see how selling the items in the game would work since the in game days pass multiple times during the real life day. So if we went by in game standards the witches festival probably would not even be in the real life month of October and be some other month. Some people say that the day cycles are every 6 hours so that would mean in ESO time 1 year in real life would be 4 years in ESO. It would be extremely complicated and difficult to make a system for trivial lore that in the end does not have great impact on the game for them just to sell some holiday item.
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Soulshine✭✭✭✭✭
✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but these were revealed as coming along with a Zombie Horse and will be available between October 22nd up until Orsinium launch on PC. The Mind-Shriven Horse will also be unavailable as of said launch. As for the rest, datamining guarantees nothing beyond the fact the data exists.
Now then many of you don't want the stuff because it breaks immersion, is counter-intuitative to Nirn's ways, etc. but others do want them. Besides, we already have Draugr Wolves in this game so yeah they've already broken this wall down hard...
Also consider TESV: Skyrim had a headless horseman wandering around. So yeah this isn't really as unreasonable as many think and it's fair to those that have been crying out for holiday events.
Is this fair to everyone? No.
Is anything ever fair to everyone? No.
Is that just how it is? Yes.
There is no such thing as a game that can perfectly please every single one of its players. Those it doesn't please either quit or continue to play with a disgruntled demeanor.
Not really; some of us play happily resting on all our crowns that we can spend on other things we don't find silly so it's all good.
Which was the point I was making lol one man's trash is another man's treasure and all that.
Your statements included the assumption that people would also "either quit or continue to play with a disgruntled demeanor," which is just rubbish. Nobody is going to quit over something they find ridiculous in the first place, they will just laugh at the mere idea of spending money in this - I know I am, hehe. So much for disgruntled demeanor. : P
Clearly you don't know people then lol
Sure there is a middle area where people just don't care either way but some of those people may try to find something to gripe about like "why are you wasting time adding this when this could be done instead?!".
I have seen every gripe there is since been around here since beta and added a few of my own to the plate - in spades. But no, throwing out those kinds of generalizations of when it comes to this is just a thinly veiled swipe at people who are saying they don't like the stuff. Not cool.
It's not about that. Yes it is a generalization but it isn't at just one side of the coin. What I'm saying is there are people that are pleased with the content and stay and then there are those that are not and either take it regardless or quit. And then as I mentioned there is a middle sector that favors neither side usually because the content has no influence on them. However, as I also pointed out, people tend to find something to complain about just to nitpick or, for no reason whatsoever, complain. People are people, and no one can make all of them happy.
No one is going to quit the game over THIS stuff is the point; meaning it should not be conflated it into something bigger than what it actually is, so your statement which I called you out for was not cool and not correct.0 -
Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As I've said many times before @paleobonesb14_ESO, if ZOS wanted to establish a calendar for ESO to put the 13th of Frost Fall on October 31st I would be completely fine with that... but that would require all other days to be offset.
The fact is that ZOS is bastardizing the Witches Festival to celebrate and cash in on Halloween. All I asked was that the polymorphs be sold so we can have them for the witches festival. (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/221551/witches-festival-crown-store-items-an-issue-with-timing/p1) I would have been fine with them being sold THROUGH Halloween. I just wanted them to also be available on or prior to October 13th.
If ZOS saw fit to do that I would have bought them. Now I won't out of principal. They are releasing these for Halloween. To claim anything different is insulting.
Without a calendar the most logical and reasonable thing to do is consider our calendar and ESO's calendar to be synched in the same way most MMOs synch calendars. Personally... I'd prefer the calendar not be synched. I go over a concept here that would make room for both real-world and Tamrielic holidays in ESO. (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/171830/day-length-adjustment-holiday-implementation-concept/p1)
I accept the polymorphs as "lore friendly"... I actually like them quite a bit! But the timing is outright disrespectful to the lore and to the players. At this point it seems like ZOS is just seeing how far off lore they can go. Like they want to see how much we will accept. In two years we will probably have reindeer mounts with elf pets carrying packages wrapped in red with green bows.
I'm not being a stick in the mud @paleobonesb14_ESO, I'm using that stick to draw a line in the sludge. ZOS has shown that they are willing to outright disregard the lore but then still pretend that they show it reverence. You may be willing to accept the propaganda and convince yourself that these AREN'T Halloween items, good for you. I'm just not willing to do that.
And if you don't care about lore... write me off as a weirdo lore freak that needs to get a life.
I understand your frustration, but I do not see how selling the items in the game would work since the in game days pass multiple times during the real life day. So if we went by in game standards the witches festival probably would not even be in the real life month of October and be some other month. Some people say that the day cycles are every 6 hours so that would mean in ESO time 1 year in real life would be 4 years in ESO. It would be extremely complicated and difficult to make a system for trivial lore that in the end does not have great impact on the game for them just to sell some holiday item.
You're completely right @Rampeal... it would have been easier for them to sell the Polymorphs in time for us to use them on the day of the witches festival... October 13th.
Why didn't they? What logical reason could be given other than "ZOS wanted to only sell them for two weeks and it was more important to sell them on Halloween than to them have available for the 13th of October." ?Edited by Gidorick on October 20, 2015 7:26AMWhat ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!0 -
Rampeal✭✭✭✭✭As I've said many times before @paleobonesb14_ESO, if ZOS wanted to establish a calendar for ESO to put the 13th of Frost Fall on October 31st I would be completely fine with that... but that would require all other days to be offset.
The fact is that ZOS is bastardizing the Witches Festival to celebrate and cash in on Halloween. All I asked was that the polymorphs be sold so we can have them for the witches festival. (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/221551/witches-festival-crown-store-items-an-issue-with-timing/p1) I would have been fine with them being sold THROUGH Halloween. I just wanted them to also be available on or prior to October 13th.
If ZOS saw fit to do that I would have bought them. Now I won't out of principal. They are releasing these for Halloween. To claim anything different is insulting.
Without a calendar the most logical and reasonable thing to do is consider our calendar and ESO's calendar to be synched in the same way most MMOs synch calendars. Personally... I'd prefer the calendar not be synched. I go over a concept here that would make room for both real-world and Tamrielic holidays in ESO. (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/171830/day-length-adjustment-holiday-implementation-concept/p1)
I accept the polymorphs as "lore friendly"... I actually like them quite a bit! But the timing is outright disrespectful to the lore and to the players. At this point it seems like ZOS is just seeing how far off lore they can go. Like they want to see how much we will accept. In two years we will probably have reindeer mounts with elf pets carrying packages wrapped in red with green bows.
I'm not being a stick in the mud @paleobonesb14_ESO, I'm using that stick to draw a line in the sludge. ZOS has shown that they are willing to outright disregard the lore but then still pretend that they show it reverence. You may be willing to accept the propaganda and convince yourself that these AREN'T Halloween items, good for you. I'm just not willing to do that.
And if you don't care about lore... write me off as a weirdo lore freak that needs to get a life.
I understand your frustration, but I do not see how selling the items in the game would work since the in game days pass multiple times during the real life day. So if we went by in game standards the witches festival probably would not even be in the real life month of October and be some other month. Some people say that the day cycles are every 6 hours so that would mean in ESO time 1 year in real life would be 4 years in ESO. It would be extremely complicated and difficult to make a system for trivial lore that in the end does not have great impact on the game for them just to sell some holiday item.
You're completely right @Rampeal... it would have been easier for them to sell the Polymorphs in time for us to use them on the day of the witches festival... October 13th.
Why didn't they? What logical reason could be given other than "ZOS wanted to only sell them for two weeks and it was more important to sell them on Halloween than to them have available for the 13th of October." ?
Now that you mention it I do not know any Logical reason for them selling anything in the Crown Store except to make money, Which I really do not hate on them for. The more they make the longer ESO stays around. But if you were going by pure logical game sense, well it makes none. At least WoW sent the items to you through ingame mail with a little note explaining where it came from....Overstock of dragons was one of them. How can you have a overstock of dragons ?!
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✭✭✭✭✭lol @Rampeal. Way to ignore the actual point I was making while trying to derail my qestion. I have 100% absolutely no problem with ZOS selling the items in the crown store... Since I saw the little tidbit of lore they added to them I've been happy with them as an addition to ESO.
Even though I KNOW you got it the first time and chose to interpret the question differently, trying to be clever, I'll BOLD the parts that are pertinent to the point I'm making.You're completely right @Rampeal... it would have been easier for them to sell the Polymorphs in time for us to use them on the day of the witches festival... October 13th.
Why didn't they? What logical reason could be given other than "ZOS wanted to only sell them for two weeks and it was more important to sell them on Halloween than to them have available for the 13th of October." ?
As for the whole calendar thing... that is a non argument for me. In the absence of an official ESO day/time/date system we follow our calendar. If THAT's where we disagree... then we simply disagree. I'm not willing to make wild justifications for ZOS' decisions.
Edit: deleted the snarky parts.
Edited by Gidorick on October 20, 2015 7:53AMWhat ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!0 -
Rampeal✭✭✭✭✭lol @Rampeal. Way to ignore the actual point I was making while trying to derail my qestion. I have 100% absolutely no problem with ZOS selling the items in the crown store... Since I saw the little tidbit of lore they added to them I've been happy with them as an addition to ESO.
Even though I KNOW you got it the first time and chose to interpret the question, trying to be clever, I'll BOLD the parts that are pertinent to the point I'm making.You're completely right @Rampeal... it would have been easier for them to sell the Polymorphs in time for us to use them on the day of the witches festival... October 13th.
Why didn't they? What logical reason could be given other than "ZOS wanted to only sell them for two weeks and it was more important to sell them on Halloween than to them have available for the 13th of October." ?
As for the whole calendar thing... that is a non argument for me. In the absence of an official ESO day/time/date system we follow our calendar. If THAT's where we disagree... then we simply disagree. I'm not willing to make wild justifications for ZOS' decisions.
Edit: deleted the snarky parts.
Was not trying to derail anything lol. And as far as calendar goes it will most likely never happen since ESO days happen many times during our normal days. If they ever did make a calendar I am sure there would be many people mad that their characters have not aged and its breaking their "immersion" when ESO makes it to its 10 year mark and 60 years have passed on ESO time. Hell as it is now ESO has been around what 2 years now? In game that's like 8-10 years. Be right back grabbing my pitchfork and torch.
In fact the only MMO I know that has a set calendar is WoW and they constantly age and change to reflect this.Edited by Rampeal on October 20, 2015 8:00AM0 -
Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I know the Final Fantasy Online games have in-game day/date/time. When I (briefly) played FFXI I bought one of these:I'll just say that game wasn't very solo-friendly and I spent a LOT of time between level 15 and 20. By between I mean up to 20 and back down again to 15.
death=loss of XP in that game. It was such a punishing but wonderful mechanic!
ANYWAY... those games just throw care to the wind during holiday events and flat out celebrate real-world holidays in-game (no matter what the date is on the game calendar). They call them something else to be more "lore-friendly" to that game... and I just don't see how that is much different from what ZOS is doing with these polymorphs. Well... I don't think we're going to have actual in-game events in ESO like...
So at least there's that, I guess.What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!0 -
Seravi✭✭✭✭✭Ugh well I could see adding the zombie horse or whatever it is since Arvak was a skeleton BUT he was also a magical color, not a bag of bones. I enjoy the lore of the game and can take or leave the stuff being sold in the store. Soon we will have the ESO world we enjoy playing in filled with crap that has nothing to do with this game. You want to sell more stuff in the crown store, make it so we can dye our costumes purchased in the store. There are so many other things ZOS could make that would sell but they choose to push out holiday stuff and that is what it is. Sell the option to change our race or character features like you could do in Skyrim visiting the crazy chick in the sewers. I guess we get a daedric turkey next and maybe a necro Santa?......../facepalm0 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but these were revealed as coming along with a Zombie Horse and will be available between October 22nd up until Orsinium launch on PC. The Mind-Shriven Horse will also be unavailable as of said launch. As for the rest, datamining guarantees nothing beyond the fact the data exists.
Now then many of you don't want the stuff because it breaks immersion, is counter-intuitative to Nirn's ways, etc. but others do want them. Besides, we already have Draugr Wolves in this game so yeah they've already broken this wall down hard...
Also consider TESV: Skyrim had a headless horseman wandering around. So yeah this isn't really as unreasonable as many think and it's fair to those that have been crying out for holiday events.
Is this fair to everyone? No.
Is anything ever fair to everyone? No.
Is that just how it is? Yes.
There is no such thing as a game that can perfectly please every single one of its players. Those it doesn't please either quit or continue to play with a disgruntled demeanor.
Not really; some of us play happily resting on all our crowns that we can spend on other things we don't find silly so it's all good.
Which was the point I was making lol one man's trash is another man's treasure and all that.
Your statements included the assumption that people would also "either quit or continue to play with a disgruntled demeanor," which is just rubbish. Nobody is going to quit over something they find ridiculous in the first place, they will just laugh at the mere idea of spending money in this - I know I am, hehe. So much for disgruntled demeanor. : P
Clearly you don't know people then lol
Sure there is a middle area where people just don't care either way but some of those people may try to find something to gripe about like "why are you wasting time adding this when this could be done instead?!".
I have seen every gripe there is since been around here since beta and added a few of my own to the plate - in spades. But no, throwing out those kinds of generalizations of when it comes to this is just a thinly veiled swipe at people who are saying they don't like the stuff. Not cool.
It's not about that. Yes it is a generalization but it isn't at just one side of the coin. What I'm saying is there are people that are pleased with the content and stay and then there are those that are not and either take it regardless or quit. And then as I mentioned there is a middle sector that favors neither side usually because the content has no influence on them. However, as I also pointed out, people tend to find something to complain about just to nitpick or, for no reason whatsoever, complain. People are people, and no one can make all of them happy.
No one is going to quit the game over THIS stuff is the point; meaning it should not be conflated it into something bigger than what it actually is, so your statement which I called you out for was not cool and not correct.
If that is your reasoning behind debating my statement then I think you've got the wrong guy. You should be addressing OP lolGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but these were revealed as coming along with a Zombie Horse and will be available between October 22nd up until Orsinium launch on PC. The Mind-Shriven Horse will also be unavailable as of said launch. As for the rest, datamining guarantees nothing beyond the fact the data exists.
Now then many of you don't want the stuff because it breaks immersion, is counter-intuitative to Nirn's ways, etc. but others do want them. Besides, we already have Draugr Wolves in this game so yeah they've already broken this wall down hard...
Also consider TESV: Skyrim had a headless horseman wandering around. So yeah this isn't really as unreasonable as many think and it's fair to those that have been crying out for holiday events.
Is this fair to everyone? No.
Is anything ever fair to everyone? No.
Is that just how it is? Yes.
There is no such thing as a game that can perfectly please every single one of its players. Those it doesn't please either quit or continue to play with a disgruntled demeanor.
Not really; some of us play happily resting on all our crowns that we can spend on other things we don't find silly so it's all good.
Which was the point I was making lol one man's trash is another man's treasure and all that.
Your statements included the assumption that people would also "either quit or continue to play with a disgruntled demeanor," which is just rubbish. Nobody is going to quit over something they find ridiculous in the first place, they will just laugh at the mere idea of spending money in this - I know I am, hehe. So much for disgruntled demeanor. : P
Clearly you don't know people then lol
Sure there is a middle area where people just don't care either way but some of those people may try to find something to gripe about like "why are you wasting time adding this when this could be done instead?!".
I have seen every gripe there is since been around here since beta and added a few of my own to the plate - in spades. But no, throwing out those kinds of generalizations of when it comes to this is just a thinly veiled swipe at people who are saying they don't like the stuff. Not cool.
It's not about that. Yes it is a generalization but it isn't at just one side of the coin. What I'm saying is there are people that are pleased with the content and stay and then there are those that are not and either take it regardless or quit. And then as I mentioned there is a middle sector that favors neither side usually because the content has no influence on them. However, as I also pointed out, people tend to find something to complain about just to nitpick or, for no reason whatsoever, complain. People are people, and no one can make all of them happy.
No one is going to quit the game over THIS stuff is the point; meaning it should not be conflated it into something bigger than what it actually is, so your statement which I called you out for was not cool and not correct.
If that is your reasoning behind debating my statement then I think you've got the wrong guy. You should be addressing OP lol
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✭All the mount in this game can break immersion. They appear and disappear out and in of thin air.
On the other side... I'm buying the new zombie horse
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Nichordius✭✭TheDarkShadow wrote: »All the mount in this game can break immersion. They appear and disappear out and in of thin air.
On the other side... I'm buying the new zombie horse
There's the in and out of thin air, there's the robes pulled up to your hips, and there's the fact that not all of us are running around questing or taking part in the alliance war in character. And then I think, what if we were riding motorcycles and space crafts, with sunglasses and fireling vanity pets?0 -
Tyrix✭✭I literally dropped my jaw from how *** the TS is.
This is an MMO!! People want cosmetic stuff. You wanna be a 100% lore fanboy? Go play Skyrim.1 -
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Adding a Dragon mount, due to the time-frame is one of the rare things I can think of that would warrant an uproar, I do not see the problem here.Guild Leader of The Twelve Knights, AD PVE, PVP and Trading Guild on the EU Mega Server
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Belidos✭✭✭✭✭TheDarkShadow wrote: »All the mount in this game can break immersion. They appear and disappear out and in of thin air.
What are you talking about? They don't appear out of thin air, it's blatantly obvious they're pulled out of a magic bag of holding!
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Ghrimn✭✭✭I still think the pumpkin is "Lore-Unfriendly" as Oblivion, even with the "explanation". I can work around the scarecrow and I have no problem whatsoever with the horse. But that pumpkin! It just doesn't make any sense... Also, the Witches' Festival was supposed to be so horrible that people wouldn't even go outside, but apparently it was changed to: "dressing up to attend Witches' Festival parties".
They've already done an awesome work with most of the lore, and I am truly grateful they do Loremaster's Archives even though some of their answers regarding Nords make my blood boil of anger... Ghrimn of Elder Wood says: "We're not dumb Phrastus!"
All I'm saying is, ZOS could've taken this a bit more seriously. It would be a perfect opportunity for them to elaborate on Tamriel's Holidays, which they would do an awesome job with if they tried, but instead they decided to go with the traditional Halloween Party.
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Nichordius✭✭I think the biggest concern here is that the community managers acted like they didn't know the zombie horse was in the making.1
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I know right! I am actually looking forward to have some new polymorphs, they look awesome too.
Also excited to get my zombie horse it looks alot better than I was expecting, And it all adds to the collection : )1 -
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✭Has ZOS actually ever listened to community feedback on anything? Like ever? I really wanna know.
Of course they have, we wouldn't have first person mode or the console ports otherwise.
ZOS listens to players more than we give them credit for, but perhaps they listen too much.
I myself have no issue with those mounts, we've had similar ones before in skyrim (Arvak).
As for the polymorphs the lore said something about them being spirit possessed corpses. Who cares if they look a little funky? Do all corpses have to look normal?
Also key word being polymorph. In the second era they may have celebrated witches harvest (or whatever they call the elder scrolls version of Halloween) by having mages create items that turn people into scary creatures. It's not that far fetched.
Honestly I can believe people complain about this but are fine with Michael kirkbride's space magic fan fiction being treated as canon lore by many people.Edited by Vrienda on October 22, 2015 1:07PMDesperate for Roleplaying servers to bring open world non-organised RP to Elder Scrolls Online. Please ZOS.1
