How come so few people roll(ed) DC?

AngryNord · October 2015

If DC have so few players, how come they dominate at least two of the "open" Cyrodiil campaigns on the EU Server?

dodgehopper_ESO · October 2015

Curragraigue wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

SamRothstein wrote: »

I like to play as a human and the Nord was most human. When i made my character I had no clue that's there are three separate main quest campaigns.

I don't know, DC has two human races: Breton and Redguard. I'm not sure what makes Nord more human. There's also Imperial.

Breton's look human but are really half elfs hence why they always get magicka boosts in TES games.

I just liked the background for the formation of the DC Alliance more than the other Alliances in the promo materials. I also always struggle with the racist and elitist elves that are in both of the other factions in past TES games so in the end easy choice for me.

While I like all of the DC zones the most spectacular is Auridon in my book. Shame about Grahtwood, Greenshade and Malabar Tor all blending into one with their sameness.

Bretons are human in the same way the bosmer, ayleids, and those fleshy colored altmer are elves. There is a reason the pureblooded altmer look down on bosmer.

Dreizopf · October 2015

Asherons_Call wrote: »

IKilled007 wrote: »

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Any theories?

Because Angier Stower's voice saying "WELCOME TO THE BANK OF DAGGERFALL" over and over in your brain wears at you after a while

Anyone else ever noticed, that this beloved Angier Stower is serving the bank of Coldharbor too?
She does it in all 3 factions, btw.

ladyonthemoon · October 2015

My question would be: why do people chose only one faction? Instead of playing the three. I have three characters, one for each faction.

Elektrakosh · October 2015

ladyonthemoon wrote: »

My question would be: why do people chose only one faction? Instead of playing the three. I have three characters, one for each faction.

Because you get to play all three factions anyway after the main quests. Cadwell's Silver and Gold.

Van_0S · October 2015

DC is boring as hell.(You see these town and cities, everyday in real life)
AD is beautiful as heaven.(this we haven't seen, the greenery)
EP is for all the fans(skyrim+morrowind, The ash mountain+swaps+huge cold mountains is also what we don't see every dayvof our lives).

Curragraigue · October 2015

Dreizopf wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

IKilled007 wrote: »

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Any theories?

Because Angier Stower's voice saying "WELCOME TO THE BANK OF DAGGERFALL" over and over in your brain wears at you after a while

Anyone else ever noticed, that this beloved Angier Stower is serving the bank of Coldharbor too?
She does it in all 3 factions, btw.

Who else would serve in a bank in hell?

Brrrofski · October 2015

AngryNord wrote: »

If DC have so few players, how come they dominate at least two of the "open" Cyrodiil campaigns on the EU Server?

Quality not quantity

Jura23 · October 2015

AngryNord wrote: »

If DC have so few players, how come they dominate at least two of the "open" Cyrodiil campaigns on the EU Server?

Now that I think about it, DC races are quite a bit insipred by European culture or cultures closer to Europe than the US. Maybe that's why it would be more populated?

Winterpsy · October 2015

We have no dwarves here.
We have Nords instead. Pretty much the same, just tall instead of short.
Icons of the rough macho-macho man!

Jura23 · October 2015

Winterpsy wrote: »

We have no dwarves here.
We have Nords instead. Pretty much the same, just tall instead of short.
Icons of the rough macho-macho man!

They should at least give us dwarf polymorph. Fantasy game with no dwarves... that's just wrong.

Rodvic · October 2015

I didn't choose the DC because I have always found Redguards and Bretons very dull. I chose the EP because all three of my favorite races are in it. ^_^

Olysja · October 2015

usually low pops on standard games gets a free bonus for balancing factions. unluckly ESO doesn't.

Spiderg1rl · October 2015

I agree with my choice for Ebonheart being because of Skyrim and wanting to see these zones again in the new game. I however was really glad Daggerfall was the Silver zone as I've been really enjoying it. The only thing that stops me rolling and playing in Daggerfall is my guildmates and the ability to play with them instead of against them.

zornyan · October 2015

Asherons_Call wrote: »

IKilled007 wrote: »

I am just curious as to why most players roll(ed) EP, followed by AD, with a small minority rolling DC. Is it something in the lore? Something to do with the previous games in the Elder Scrolls series? Is it the races (and maybe their passives)? Is the geography (are the zones better in EP, are the quests more fun)? It seems that in Cyrodiil, on every campaign or almost every campaign, DC is vastly outnumbered most of the time, with maybe to to three hours where they're pop-locked with the other two factions also pop-locked.

Any theories?

Because Angier Stower's voice saying "WELCOME TO THE BANK OF DAGGERFALL" over and over in your brain wears at you after a while

Lol

Paazhahdrimaak wrote: »

I see most people who have never played another elder scrolls game like the DC, it's more fimillar to them, while the real fans want to see morrowind again or explore the Summerset Isles. Sees like the kids and newbies like daggerfall. Just my opinion.

Or maybe we wanted to see daggerfall again, since most of the kids wanted skyrim online and are more recent to the series, unlike myself and many of my guild mates that actually remember the original tes games....

Considering daggerfall is quite a bit older than both skyrim and morrowind , it seems more likely that kids play EP

Rodvic · October 2015

zornyan wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

IKilled007 wrote: »

I am just curious as to why most players roll(ed) EP, followed by AD, with a small minority rolling DC. Is it something in the lore? Something to do with the previous games in the Elder Scrolls series? Is it the races (and maybe their passives)? Is the geography (are the zones better in EP, are the quests more fun)? It seems that in Cyrodiil, on every campaign or almost every campaign, DC is vastly outnumbered most of the time, with maybe to to three hours where they're pop-locked with the other two factions also pop-locked.

Any theories?

Because Angier Stower's voice saying "WELCOME TO THE BANK OF DAGGERFALL" over and over in your brain wears at you after a while

Lol

Paazhahdrimaak wrote: »

I see most people who have never played another elder scrolls game like the DC, it's more fimillar to them, while the real fans want to see morrowind again or explore the Summerset Isles. Sees like the kids and newbies like daggerfall. Just my opinion.

Or maybe we wanted to see daggerfall again, since most of the kids wanted skyrim online and are more recent to the series, unlike myself and many of my guild mates that actually remember the original tes games....

Considering daggerfall is quite a bit older than both skyrim and morrowind , it seems more likely that kids play EP

Yes, it couldn't possibly have anything to do with people just liking the EP races.

Sausage · October 2015

All orcs are playing WoW.

olsborg · October 2015

What am I missing here. Most people I see in cyrodiil are dc, most camps are owned by dc, biggest zergs in IC is almost always dc.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2015

olsborg wrote: »

What am I missing here. Most people I see in cyrodiil are dc, most camps are owned by dc, biggest zergs in IC is almost always dc.

That's related to the "profile", as mentioned in earlier posts in this thread.

AD and EP are more (while not entirely of course) populated with people who wanted a Skyrim/Morrowind 2 experience, or a Skyrim/Morrowind Online experience, or a Skyrim/Morrowind with friends experience. And die-hard Nord or Khajiit lovers.

DC had none of these and therefore attracted a different profile of players, more curious, more open to new stuff, more committed to the game than the average "Skyrim 2" player.

I believe PvPers' profile covers more or less this "DC players profile", it is more filled with people who are curious about the games' mechanics, who are more likely to commit to the game even after all zones have been explored, and less likely to switch games easily. Which is why, after 1.5 years of existence of the game, DC is stronger in most campaigns.

But that's just my interpretation of it, I could just as well be wrong.

Fact is, whenever I ask guildies and friends in DC why they chose DC, the answer is quite often "because I wanted to discover something new and not repeat anterior games" and "because I wanted to avoid all the kiddies in AD and EP", or "Because I want to PvP and look for serious teams and that was more likely to be in DC rather than in alliances where people would not stick to the game".

AngryNord · October 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

AD and EP are more (while not entirely of course) populated with people who wanted a Skyrim/Morrowind 2 experience, or a Skyrim/Morrowind Online experience, or a Skyrim/Morrowind with friends experience. And die-hard Nord or Khajiit lovers.

There are at least two Khajiit players in EP :P I've tried sending my Windhelm Wolfhound pet after them but it didn't obey commands... :-/

Tryxus · October 2015

Well I chose to play DC cuz my first TES games was Daggerfall so I was pretty anxious to see High Rock (and Sentinel) once again but in current gen graphics this time

Plus I didn't have the "Any Race, Any Alliance" at the time, and I wanted to play as a Mage so Breton was the obvious choice for that.

However, I also made a couple of assumptions at the time and I believed that DC would've been the middle population:

- EP has Skyrim, and I believed that a lot of players who played Skyrim (both those who are and aren't familiar with MMOs) would end up in this faction, yelling Fus Ro Dah in every street in every zone. And that they would be joined with a portion of players who played Morrowind as well. The "Really BIG Faction with lots of casual players but few PvPers" was what I thought they would be
- AD would'be been the least popular with how they were represented in Skyrim: a haughty racist group that's slowly poisoning the Empire. But I was wrong since a lot of ppl prefer to play as a Khajiit, Altmer are also a great race for Mage users, and ofc the leader of the faction who is completely the opposite of what the 3rd AD in the 4th Era stands for (as well as being exceptionely well voice acted)

So yeah, I thought it would've been EP>DC>AD but I guess it turned out a bit differently

Malmai · October 2015

LBxFinalDeath wrote: »

Skyrim fanboys.

Their mindset was "Ooooo, I can go to Skyrim again? Yes pls."

Or "I can join the bad guys? Sign me up for the Dominion!" (Little did they know the Dominion in-game isn't the same as the one in Skyrim.)

They saw Daggerfall and were like "What is this? I don't like change!" Cuz ofc they never played Daggerfall nor prolly ever heard of it.

As some earlier posters mentioned DC members tend to be older, the small children go EP or AD primarily.

Also they dun' understand that the Mongrel race of half elves are the best race.

The Master Race is Imperial Race!

DRXHarbinger · October 2015

DC have rolled over the last Azuras Star, by a long shot, however they did ditch Haderus and all packed into Azuras and ran the place for almost 2 weeks solid, I'm AD, put in an all nighter to take all the keeps and scrolls back, on the next morning and they had it all back again, crazy huge zergs all over the game at anytime now.

Winterpsy · October 2015

Btw, on PS4 EU, I do not really notice any probs with DC populations. They are capped in Azura, and in Scourge as well, most of the major battles are going in between blues and other factions.

Tryxus · October 2015

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

DC have rolled over the last Azuras Star, by a long shot, however they did ditch Haderus and all packed into Azuras and ran the place for almost 2 weeks solid, I'm AD, put in an all nighter to take all the keeps and scrolls back, on the next morning and they had it all back again, crazy huge zergs all over the game at anytime now.

On the EU server, each of the 7 Day Campaigns are dominated by a certain faction (Haderus by AD, Axe by EP, Chillrend by DC) mostly for IC farming or for a shot of becoming Emperor

The actual PvPers have gone to Azura or Trueflame

DRXHarbinger · October 2015

^ True, but AD Azuras is pretty much empty now whilst everyone goes running around trying to gain telvar stones, sad all they seem to care for is making gold, unaware that they really should be banking up AP now in time for Orsinium.

teladoy · October 2015

Actually people play more daggerfall ans Aldmeri because they want to crush ebonheart pact as they know that the most part of fanboys will play in there.

I wanted to play in daggerfall but I follow my fan boy friends and now I'm the only one that plays lol! :_(

slumber_sandb16_ESO · October 2015

EP = Skyrim
AD = Cat race + elves + thalmor
DC = Orc master race and superior in every way to everything ever.

G0ku · October 2015

Jura23 wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

If DC have so few players, how come they dominate at least two of the "open" Cyrodiil campaigns on the EU Server?

Now that I think about it, DC races are quite a bit insipred by European culture or cultures closer to Europe than the US. Maybe that's why it would be more populated?

Orcs? Redguard? Well if I think about it, my neighbour´s wife looks really orcish...

ladyonthemoon · October 2015

Elektrakosh wrote: »

ladyonthemoon wrote: »

My question would be: why do people chose only one faction? Instead of playing the three. I have three characters, one for each faction.

Because you get to play all three factions anyway after the main quests. Cadwell's Silver and Gold.

I don't understand this but I don't want to know more.