Tell me why I should invest in Orsinium

gjmgamesub17_ESO · October 2015

I bought eso for ps4 on release day. Leveled to VR14, got about 100CP.

I liked the dungeons and trials, pvp was terribad, people trying to balance classes around small scale pvp in a game designed for large scale pvp never turns out good - ever. But whatever, I am a pve player mainly anyways. I'll stick to that.

Then comes IC. I know it's a horrible model and idea, but against my better judgement I purchase the dlc to give it a fair shot.

I logged in, did my respec and queued for both the new dungeons and for a pvp campaign. 3 hours later I still hadn't gotten into either.

I paid for a game i couldn't play. New content gated behind pvp in zones that are population capped. A group finder that was completely broken and my alt was stuck in Rivenspire and couldn't get out.

But Orsinium was coming out soon, I would be able to PvE with other people and hve a good time again. I stayed optimistic about it.

Then comes the patch notes. Absolutely zero group content in an MMORPG. Not even scaling trials up.

Why should I buy dlc catering to solo content when I can go play a much better solo rpg?

Maybe I'm missing something here but this makes absolutely no sense.

Artemisshrikes · October 2015

gjmgamesub17_ESO wrote: »

I bought eso for ps4 on release day. Leveled to VR14, got about 100CP.

I liked the dungeons and trials, pvp was terribad, people trying to balance classes around small scale pvp in a game designed for large scale pvp never turns out good - ever. But whatever, I am a pve player mainly anyways. I'll stick to that.

Then comes IC. I know it's a horrible model and idea, but against my better judgement I purchase the dlc to give it a fair shot.

I logged in, did my respec and queued for both the new dungeons and for a pvp campaign. 3 hours later I still hadn't gotten into either.

I paid for a game i couldn't play. New content gated behind pvp in zones that are population capped. A group finder that was completely broken and my alt was stuck in Rivenspire and couldn't get out.

But Orsinium was coming out soon, I would be able to PvE with other people and hve a good time again. I stayed optimistic about it.

Then comes the patch notes. Absolutely zero group content in an MMORPG. Not even scaling trials up.

Why should I buy dlc catering to solo content when I can go play a much better solo rpg?

Maybe I'm missing something here but this makes absolutely no sense.

because...... well...because....POTATO THATS WHY!

Mettaricana · October 2015

Easy reason why to invest there's ni thing left to do in the base game. So you invest in a dlc to keeo The fun remember a year ago or so trials didn't even exsist. Less dlc you iwn less options you have to pve or PvP or group. Orsinium does have two large public dungeons and a story mode new gear dro poo s and crafted to invest time into.:)

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

gjmgamesub17_ESO wrote: »

I bought eso for ps4 on release day. Leveled to VR14, got about 100CP.

I liked the dungeons and trials, pvp was terribad, people trying to balance classes around small scale pvp in a game designed for large scale pvp never turns out good - ever. But whatever, I am a pve player mainly anyways. I'll stick to that.

Then comes IC. I know it's a horrible model and idea, but against my better judgement I purchase the dlc to give it a fair shot.

I logged in, did my respec and queued for both the new dungeons and for a pvp campaign. 3 hours later I still hadn't gotten into either.

I paid for a game i couldn't play. New content gated behind pvp in zones that are population capped. A group finder that was completely broken and my alt was stuck in Rivenspire and couldn't get out.

But Orsinium was coming out soon, I would be able to PvE with other people and hve a good time again. I stayed optimistic about it.

Then comes the patch notes. Absolutely zero group content in an MMORPG. Not even scaling trials up.

Why should I buy dlc catering to solo content when I can go play a much better solo rpg?

Maybe I'm missing something here but this makes absolutely no sense.

Because you're reading into it too much. Just because it's soloable doesn't mean you have to solo it (with the exception of Maelstrom Arena which does force it). Also keep in mind there are 2 new huge Public Dungeons coming you can do with friends.

gjmgamesub17_ESO · October 2015

Public dungeons don't count as group content in my opinion. There is no challenge in racing towards an objectiv with 2 or 3 other groups there, not to mention solo tagalongs. How are they going to work out loot drops in that situation?

I'm trying hard to talk myself into getting it, but paying 30 bucks for what should be a free novelty minor content update is the biggest hurdle.

Add to that the fact that I literally couldn't play the last dlc I purchased makes it even harder to Justify.

Artemisshrikes · October 2015

gjmgamesub17_ESO wrote: »

Public dungeons don't count as group content in my opinion. There is no challenge in racing towards an objectiv with 2 or 3 other groups there, not to mention solo tagalongs. How are they going to work out loot drops in that situation?

I'm trying hard to talk myself into getting it, but paying 30 bucks for what should be a free novelty minor content update is the biggest hurdle.

Add to that the fact that I literally couldn't play the last dlc I purchased makes it even harder to Justify.

sorry your wrong anything new put into the game that wasn't there before is content a random ass fox in a meadow is content

gjmgamesub17_ESO · October 2015

Yes it is, I never said it wasn't.

The price for so little content is the point I was trying to convey.

And the fact that the PvE DLC in a MMO is obviously catering to solo players.

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

gjmgamesub17_ESO wrote: »

Public dungeons don't count as group content in my opinion. There is no challenge in racing towards an objectiv with 2 or 3 other groups there, not to mention solo tagalongs. How are they going to work out loot drops in that situation?

I'm trying hard to talk myself into getting it, but paying 30 bucks for what should be a free novelty minor content update is the biggest hurdle.

Add to that the fact that I literally couldn't play the last dlc I purchased makes it even harder to Justify.

Sounds like a personal problem then. Why can't you just accept any and all content and enjoy it with your friends, no matter what said content is? I know I can.

Mettaricana · October 2015

Well then don't buy it. Wait for murkmire group zone

Artemisshrikes · October 2015

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

gjmgamesub17_ESO wrote: »

Public dungeons don't count as group content in my opinion. There is no challenge in racing towards an objectiv with 2 or 3 other groups there, not to mention solo tagalongs. How are they going to work out loot drops in that situation?

I'm trying hard to talk myself into getting it, but paying 30 bucks for what should be a free novelty minor content update is the biggest hurdle.

Add to that the fact that I literally couldn't play the last dlc I purchased makes it even harder to Justify.

Sounds like a personal problem then. Why can't you just accept any and all content and enjoy it with your friends, no matter what said content is? I know I can.

maybe he doesn't have friends?

RedTalon · October 2015

I am doing it cause my only char is an orc, can't be a good and proper orc without helping the homeland!

The Fatherland needs my orc's blood and handwork

Mettaricana · October 2015

I don't have friends I just do the content as intended if I party up yay if not oh well I don't determine my enjoyment of game content because of huge group content. I play it and deal with it devs clearly state what the dlcs are cattered to its not harder to pick the ones that do or don't suit you. Not trying to be mean but if you don't want the dlc don't buy it. Though dlc with dungeons that drop boss helms I'd say buy those otherwise you'll be really alone in group because that's where people gonna swarm to.

Jonnyaces · October 2015

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

gjmgamesub17_ESO wrote: »

Public dungeons don't count as group content in my opinion. There is no challenge in racing towards an objectiv with 2 or 3 other groups there, not to mention solo tagalongs. How are they going to work out loot drops in that situation?

I'm trying hard to talk myself into getting it, but paying 30 bucks for what should be a free novelty minor content update is the biggest hurdle.

Add to that the fact that I literally couldn't play the last dlc I purchased makes it even harder to Justify.

Sounds like a personal problem then. Why can't you just accept any and all content and enjoy it with your friends, no matter what said content is? I know I can.

maybe he doesn't have friends?

thats a mature comment! I think he was just relaying worries a lot of us have, regarding the new DLC. Is it worth the money we have to pay for it? The OP was asking a reasonable question, wanting reasonable answers to your thoughts on it. Lets try and keep the answers on topic maybe?

Elijah_Crow · October 2015

Maelstrom Arena. Solo arena with leaderboards and some of the best armor in game and the best weapons. 100 hours of content right there for me.

RatedChaotic · October 2015

Well my thoughts aswell. Decided not getting it. Too many bugs already thats not fixed now they are just going to create more.

Vangy · October 2015

I want my op crit Rush 2 hander nao pls. I want to QQ melt people with crit Rush into Wb spam MUHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Also orsinium is fine. They mentioned before that eso is not your average mmo. It's more like skyrim online. And I'm okay with it that way. Yes when orsinium comes out the dungeons will be flooded. But just like iC give it a month and when the min max rushers are done with their items, the place will be empty enough for you to solo/run in a small group etc.

Sausage · October 2015

Just dont, thats why we have Enlightment, devs just cant make content only for you, you know. Who knows maybe next Adventure Zone is raid zone. Id like exploration zone to be honest, fog, you cant see fast, massive zone, get lost and fight some monsters and find some awesome stuff.

TheShadowScout · October 2015

I will invest in Orsinium because I enjoy discovering Tamriel, enjoy following quests, enjoy steering my characters through the story, enjoy explowing every nook and cranny of diverse maps, enjoy all of ESO, even though I am usually going solo, and therefore not getting much chances at the group-y stuff...
I am having fun with the game, and am eagerly awaiting all the "soming soon™" stuff... and am ready to put my money where my mouth is as soon as the DLCs becume available in the crown store!

Why you should pay for Orsinium? That's something you have to decide on your own... do you expect to have fun? Then buy it. If not... too bad.

BlackEar · October 2015

It is fun.

Rodvic · October 2015

If you aren't into solo content then don't buy it. Myself and many others on the other hand have wanted more solo stuff for a while and will be happily enjoying Orsinium.

Murkmire sounds like more of your thing

ahstin2001nub18_ESO · October 2015

a trial and private dungeons are said to be coming later for those with access to orsinium. other than that, its 20 hours of story line...... thats about it

my wife and i aren't going to get it....

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

ahstin2001nub18_ESO wrote: »

other than that, its 20 hours of story line...... thats about it

That is sorely lacking in proper credit. I hope there aren't too many people that look at it as shallowly as you do.

Robo_Hobo · October 2015

If you don't like it, then really, just don't buy it, you can decide that for yourself without needing anyone to convince you - or has this whole 'MMORPG's can't have new solo content' mindset made it so you can't even make a decision like this without a group?

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Alright, I'm sorry - I thought that was pretty catchy though so had to say it. :P

Hopefully there'll be some content more to your liking after Orsinium, and that you get unstuck from Rivenspire.

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

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Plenty. Also the name calling is quite uncalled for.

1. We can actually gather Rank 10 Materials instead of buy them with Tel Var Stones or possibly get one a day via hireling.
2. New crafting writs for the low level crafting masters to do rather than do Rank 5 Writs everyday.
3. A good place to explore, grind, or just farm in at any level.
4. Maelstrom Arena. This solo challenge will keep PvEers plenty busy competing on Leaderboards much like DSA does.
5. Don't know about everyone else but I for one am looking forward to the massive Public Dungeons coming! I mean really if I'm not mistaken just 1 of them'll be the first dungeon that's both huge and has 3 elevation levels! Can't wait to explore it with friends

6. The Bear Necessities. Girls will go gaga over the Cubs while guys will be busy shakin' dat Bear ass as they ride said Bear. Wait... that didn't sound right did it? Oh well

7. If none of the above reasons work for you then feel free to explore the new area and find one!

So, does that answer your question?
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iTzStevey · October 2015

I asked myself the exact same question and decided not to bother. Wont be paying any money towards this game until a lot of bugs are fixed, even then Orsinium doesnt interest me whatsoever, ill just get someone to craft me one of the sets from the dlc thanks

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

iTzStevey wrote: »

I asked myself the exact same question and decided not to bother. even then Orsinium doesnt interest me whatsoever, ill just get someone to craft me one of the sets from the dlc thanks

Seems legit.

urkonse · October 2015

is orsinium soloable??? YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSss

no more problems with getting group (wich is impossible) as we dont have text chat

ADarklore · October 2015

gjmgamesub17_ESO wrote: »

And the fact that the PvE DLC in a MMO is obviously catering to solo players.

You DO realize that the majority of players playing this game are solo players, right? And enough with that MMO b.s., as most newer MMOs today are no longer solely focused on 'group content' because they have learned that single-player gamers want online gaming as well. Further, most of those playing ESO are single-player Skyrim/ES players who came to ESO for lack of another ES title- and Bethesda is nice in pushing even more into ESO by stating the ES6 has been put on hold indefinitely. So if people want their ES fix, they have to come to ESO.

Just because you want more group content doesn't mean the majority of players do. ZOS knows by datamining how many players play what content, whether they group or not, etc. While they may throw a bone here and there to those who prefer grouping or PvP, I'd expect that the majority of future DLCs would be much more about solo or at least soloable content.

Helgi_Skotina · October 2015

Wont buy it also. What is the fun in ontent, where i cant gank anybody?

Jade1986 · October 2015

gjmgamesub17_ESO wrote: »

I bought eso for ps4 on release day. Leveled to VR14, got about 100CP.

I liked the dungeons and trials, pvp was terribad, people trying to balance classes around small scale pvp in a game designed for large scale pvp never turns out good - ever. But whatever, I am a pve player mainly anyways. I'll stick to that.

Then comes IC. I know it's a horrible model and idea, but against my better judgement I purchase the dlc to give it a fair shot.

I logged in, did my respec and queued for both the new dungeons and for a pvp campaign. 3 hours later I still hadn't gotten into either.

I paid for a game i couldn't play. New content gated behind pvp in zones that are population capped. A group finder that was completely broken and my alt was stuck in Rivenspire and couldn't get out.

But Orsinium was coming out soon, I would be able to PvE with other people and hve a good time again. I stayed optimistic about it.

Then comes the patch notes. Absolutely zero group content in an MMORPG. Not even scaling trials up.

Why should I buy dlc catering to solo content when I can go play a much better solo rpg?

Maybe I'm missing something here but this makes absolutely no sense.

IC was pvp oriented with some dungeons, craglorn was group oriented pve, and orsinium is solo oriented with some public dungeons and soon to be trials and 4 person dungeons. They are releasing content catered to different groups of people. Heaven forbid they don't ignore groups of players only to focus on one group of players. PLUS they are going to be releasing new expansions EVERY THREE MONTHS now, seriously, what more do you want?

Jade1986 · October 2015

ADarklore wrote: »

gjmgamesub17_ESO wrote: »

And the fact that the PvE DLC in a MMO is obviously catering to solo players.

You DO realize that the majority of players playing this game are solo players, right? And enough with that MMO b.s., as most newer MMOs today are no longer solely focused on 'group content' because they have learned that single-player gamers want online gaming as well. Further, most of those playing ESO are single-player Skyrim/ES players who came to ESO for lack of another ES title- and Bethesda is nice in pushing even more into ESO by stating the ES6 has been put on hold indefinitely. So if people want their ES fix, they have to come to ESO.

Just because you want more group content doesn't mean the majority of players do. ZOS knows by datamining how many players play what content, whether they group or not, etc. While they may throw a bone here and there to those who prefer grouping or PvP, I'd expect that the majority of future DLCs would be much more about solo or at least soloable content.

Actually this game was created with PvP being a heavy focus. Hence cyro being open world pvp and the imperial city being open world pvp. I enjoy all aspects of the game, but saying most people only play this for pve is just stupid. The RP community is huge and the PvP community is huge.