The ESO Live's Twitch Chatbox is disgusting

Xendyn · October 2015

Anhedonie wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

Anhedonie wrote: »

This is why I dislike pvp fanboys. They are just a whiny bunch of immature people, who bring destructive influence to every game. Such ignorant and childlish behavior...it's both disgusting and disappointing.

Yeah sure... all of them... no exceptions...

I haven't met an exception yet.

The first time I was ever teabagged was by a PvE raid leader in a Trial.
The onlly time I've been told I'm "not good enough" was by a so-called "progression" guild.
I've seen many PvEers call PvP players psychopaths, sociopaths and robbers on this forum.

Guess I could say some sweeping generalizations about PvE players, too.

But I don't

Signed, PvP fanboy

terrordactyl1971 · October 2015

I always watch the stream a day later on YouTube so I can avoid all of the text garbage from the haters

Techlisp · October 2015

Don't get angry over it, feel sorry for it.

These toxic people have something wrong going on in their life.

MaxwellC · October 2015

So what did the twitch live stream go over? I don't watch anymore since usually it's a place that showcases the new DLC or crown store purchases and nothing "important".

BuggeX · October 2015

Anhedonie wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

Anhedonie wrote: »

This is why I dislike pvp fanboys. They are just a whiny bunch of immature people, who bring destructive influence to every game. Such ignorant and childlish behavior...it's both disgusting and disappointing.

Yeah sure... all of them... no exceptions...

I haven't met an exception yet.

we can say the same about the arogant pve fanatics.

"i want permaaccess, i bought the dlc os i want wantwantwantwantnwantwant anything for free"

just 1 example

Pallmor · October 2015

ZOS responded by opening a new complaints department:

Sausage · October 2015

Flaminir wrote: »

It didn't used to be like that....

I hate to say this... BUT.... its gone downhill since console launch!

Carebears are pissed off because IC was released, thats my opinion. PVPers get first update since launch and everyone is pissed off, great.

Anhedonie · October 2015

Xendyn wrote: »

Anhedonie wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

Anhedonie wrote: »

This is why I dislike pvp fanboys. They are just a whiny bunch of immature people, who bring destructive influence to every game. Such ignorant and childlish behavior...it's both disgusting and disappointing.

Yeah sure... all of them... no exceptions...

I haven't met an exception yet.

The first time I was ever teabagged was by a PvE raid leader in a Trial.
The onlly time I've been told I'm "not good enough" was by a so-called "progression" guild.
I've seen many PvEers call PvP players psychopaths, sociopaths and robbers on this forum.

Guess I could say some sweeping generalizations about PvE players, too.

But I don't

Signed, PvP fanboy

PVErs can be *** too. Everybody can. They just don't spawn endless nerf threads.
As a player that does both, I don't defend anyone. I just dislike such behavior.
I hope you'll find a pve guild with mature people.

Ommamar · October 2015

Sausage wrote: »

Flaminir wrote: »

It didn't used to be like that....

I hate to say this... BUT.... its gone downhill since console launch!

Carebears are pissed off because IC was released, thats my opinion. PVPers get first update since launch and everyone is pissed off, great.

But now the PVP majority says IC was actually a PvE update with PVP tacked on so they are frustrated with the implementation.

Turelus · October 2015

Anhedonie wrote: »

This is why I dislike pvp fanboys. They are just a whiny bunch of immature people, who bring destructive influence to every game. Such ignorant and childlish behavior...it's both disgusting and disappointing.

This is players in general these days. Please don't try to pass it off as only PvP players acting this way.

TBH this community is the most toxic and disgusting I think I have ever been in. That's not to say everyone is that way, but it's not the kind of community I would want to listen to or respect as a developer. The more we start to ignore, this kind of behaviour seen and give ZOS better constructive feedback the better the community will become.

ZOS should also start learning to use their admin powers and take a stand against this kind of stuff, when you have threads literally calling for developers to be fired some people shouldn't have a voice on the forums any more.

Telel · October 2015

They answered this one's question about schmutz.

Considering how quickly it was buried under the 'digestive byproducts' being produced by the many many eight year olds in the chat at the time that's a clear indicator they were on the ball with a great many things.

UrQuan · October 2015

Techlisp wrote: »

Don't get angry over it, feel sorry for it.

These toxic people have something wrong going on in their life.

Quoted for truth. These people should be pitied. Any time I see someone spewing vitriol, all I can think of is how sad their lives must be.

When people who don't feel like failures/powerless/worthless have a problem with something, they express it in a rational manner.

Ezareth · October 2015

@ZOS_RichLambert

I created a Twitch account and upgraded it to Turbo for the sole purpose of watching my first ESO live. Consider me dissapointed. We had about 15 minutes of rehashing topics that were already known and understood by most of active players and the rest of the segment was devoted to Osrinium artwork.

There was practically zero interacting between ZoS and the community watching the stream and you could see a rapid dropoff of users from 1250 to 700 after 30 minutes of artwork shots. I talked to and listened to a ton of players who mentioned the podcast afterward and they were universally disappointed, many of them even angry.

I've got no problem with the art team (They're the reason ESO is one of the best looking RPGs out there) and showing their work, but that at most is going to keep people entertained for 15-20 minutes. Most people who are watching the Twitch stream have a lot of questions and are interested in the future of the game and the direction it is headed. The only piece of information that we learned in that stream that I recall was the seasonal cap is probably going to be every quarter and will raise the CP cap by ~200 points or so. Beyond that, everything was old news and fluff.

I think if ZoS doesn't have significant content to publish for a podcast in the future, they should just not do the podcast. People will not mind. But it is clear from watching this podcast that it was just thrown together last minute (and evidenced by the art guy getting last minute permission from his wife to appear on the show). I hope you guys can improve on this in the future, there may have been other circumstances for the odd time and such that I'm unaware of that threw you off your game...

Alucardo · October 2015

Ezareth wrote: »

@ZOS_RichLambert

I created a Twitch account and upgraded it to Turbo for the sole purpose of watching my first ESO live. Consider me dissapointed. We had about 15 minutes of rehashing topics that were already known and understood by most of active players and the rest of the segment was devoted to Osrinium artwork.

There was practically zero interacting between ZoS and the community watching the stream and you could see a rapid dropoff of users from 1250 to 700 after 30 minutes of artwork shots. I talked to and listened to a ton of players who mentioned the podcast afterward and they were universally disappointed, many of them even angry.

I've got no problem with the art team (They're the reason ESO is one of the best looking RPGs out there) and showing their work, but that at most is going to keep people entertained for 15-20 minutes. Most people who are watching the Twitch stream have a lot of questions and are interested in the future of the game and the direction it is headed. The only piece of information that we learned in that stream that I recall was the seasonal cap is probably going to be every quarter and will raise the CP cap by ~200 points or so. Beyond that, everything was old news and fluff.

I think if ZoS doesn't have significant content to publish for a podcast in the future, they should just not do the podcast. People will not mind. But it is clear from watching this podcast that it was just thrown together last minute (and evidenced by the art guy getting last minute permission from his wife to appear on the show). I hope you guys can improve on this in the future, there may have been other circumstances for the odd time and such that I'm unaware of that threw you off your game...

The stuff in bold, I really couldn't agree more. Seriously, I can't.. it's only possible to click Agree once or it unselects it. Sorry.

I usually don't bother with the live stream, and just wait until it hits YouTube so I can flick past all the general chit-chat and get straight to the hot topics, the answers to the important questions, but alas they are not always there.
Like @Ezareth says, if you don't have anything useful to share, simply forego the podcast until you do. We'd rather spend our precious time listening to the matters that are important to us and mould the future of this game instead of useless banter. I really appreciate what you guys are doing, I think most of us do, but if you could involve the community in more than just artwork and a few basic questions no one really cares about, that'd be great. An example of excellent information was Eric's shoutout to Shield Breaker. We now know that isn't going any where, it's working as intended, and he even gave a few ways to work around it. It was an important subject that was brought up a lot and you actually shed some light on it. We want more of this stuff!

Xjcon · October 2015

Ezareth wrote: »

@ZOS_RichLambert

I created a Twitch account and upgraded it to Turbo for the sole purpose of watching my first ESO live. Consider me dissapointed. We had about 15 minutes of rehashing topics that were already known and understood by most of active players and the rest of the segment was devoted to Osrinium artwork.

There was practically zero interacting between ZoS and the community watching the stream and you could see a rapid dropoff of users from 1250 to 700 after 30 minutes of artwork shots. I talked to and listened to a ton of players who mentioned the podcast afterward and they were universally disappointed, many of them even angry.

I've got no problem with the art team (They're the reason ESO is one of the best looking RPGs out there) and showing their work, but that at most is going to keep people entertained for 15-20 minutes. Most people who are watching the Twitch stream have a lot of questions and are interested in the future of the game and the direction it is headed. The only piece of information that we learned in that stream that I recall was the seasonal cap is probably going to be every quarter and will raise the CP cap by ~200 points or so. Beyond that, everything was old news and fluff.

I think if ZoS doesn't have significant content to publish for a podcast in the future, they should just not do the podcast. People will not mind. But it is clear from watching this podcast that it was just thrown together last minute (and evidenced by the art guy getting last minute permission from his wife to appear on the show). I hope you guys can improve on this in the future, there may have been other circumstances for the odd time and such that I'm unaware of that threw you off your game...

I've watched almost all of the ESO live shows and It has never been a Q and A session from the chat board. Most of the questions the people ask in the chat board have already been answered. They are NOT working on a PVP arena, said so quite a few shows ago. You don't have to watch it live and you don't have to have Twitch Turbo.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2015

@Ezareth : I watched the podcast and found it very interesting from beginning to end (apart from the giveaways).

So please to not say "we" or "us" when you should say "I" because it's just your opinion and yours alone.

BaldusMageezack · October 2015

People just want to be heard. Half the posts on here get taken down and swept under the carpet. It's not a very good way to treat customers. If you can't take negative feedback then you probably shouldn't be in business. Rich seems to get it it's the internet and negativity happens.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2015

BaldusMageezack wrote: »

People just want to be heard.

No, people want to be obeyed.

They've been heard. They've been answered. With a "no, not now".
They're just not happy with the answer and think getting noisier will change that but it won't.

They're just children who don't accept the entire world not revolving around them and shaping like they wish.

The only problem with that is that their noise disturbs everyone.

Greagor · October 2015

This is not about pvp. This is about childish behavior. This is a mature game and mature players .. pvp pve or whatever act mature. Not like that. If you really want a mature answer.. make a mature question. If not.. you will be.. ignored.

SleepyTroll · October 2015

Anhedonie wrote: »

This is why I dislike pvp fanboys. They are just a whiny bunch of immature people, who bring destructive influence to every game. Such ignorant and childlish behavior...it's both disgusting and disappointing.

You seem no better then them with that arrogant statement.

BaldusMageezack · October 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

BaldusMageezack wrote: »

People just want to be heard.

No, people want to be obeyed.

They've been heard. They've been answered. With a "no, not now".
They're just not happy with the answer and think getting noisier will change that but it won't.

They're just children who don't accept the entire world not revolving around them and shaping like they wish.

The only problem with that is that their noise disturbs everyone.

In other words you want them to sit quietly and conform to your will. Not gonna happen. People do what they want and you can't bend them to your will. The best thing you can do is accept it. If not then by all means keep creating threads like these but honestly they serve no purpose except to waste space on the forum. How is this even an ESO forum issue?

Anhedonie · October 2015

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Anhedonie wrote: »

This is why I dislike pvp fanboys. They are just a whiny bunch of immature people, who bring destructive influence to every game. Such ignorant and childlish behavior...it's both disgusting and disappointing.

You seem no better then them with that arrogant statement.

Never said that in the first place, but at least I don't cry for nerfs. And this topic isn't really about that.
That's just my opinion. You're free to disagree.

Riga_Mortis · October 2015

People are offended over the " we want PvP arena " spam in chat, or have I missed something?

Anhedonie · October 2015

Dazza1968 wrote: »

People are offended over the " we want PvP arena " spam in chat, or have I missed something?

Not offended. "Irritated" is a more appropriate term.

tinythinker · October 2015

BaldusMageezack wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

BaldusMageezack wrote: »

People just want to be heard.

No, people want to be obeyed.

They've been heard. They've been answered. With a "no, not now".
They're just not happy with the answer and think getting noisier will change that but it won't.

They're just children who don't accept the entire world not revolving around them and shaping like they wish.

The only problem with that is that their noise disturbs everyone.

In other words you want them to sit quietly and conform to your will. Not gonna happen. People do what they want and you can't bend them to your will. The best thing you can do is accept it. If not then by all means keep creating threads like these but honestly they serve no purpose except to waste space on the forum. How is this even an ESO forum issue?

It is forum issue because some people actually like ESO Live, and the content it offers, and don't appreciate people being rude with chat spam. I don't have to agree or disagree with that view to acknowledge it and appreciate why some folks find rude and insulting chat comments frustrating or annoying.

Not sure how wishing for people to be reasonable or polite is an attempt to silence dissent and bend people's wills, but, OK. Keep fighting that fight for freedom from oppression. On a chat stream. About a video game.

Alucardo · October 2015

Dazza1968 wrote: »

People are offended over the " we want PvP arena " spam in chat, or have I missed something?

I don't care about that - found it to be kinda funny. It's harmless at least. I was offended when people were personally attacking Eric over things he can't control. That wasn't cool.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2015

Dazza1968 wrote: »

People are offended over the " we want PvP arena " spam in chat, or have I missed something?

It's not the "we want PvP arena" spamming in chat per se. Even if it sounded very childish and I felt ashamed of our community.

It's because of all the insults that were around it.

Senior art designer was showing and explaining excellent stuff about the creation of Orsinium for instance and all those kids in chat were there with "stop the nonsense, we don't care, just shut up, we want pvp arena".

It's not freedom of speech any more, it's plain lack of respect.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2015

BaldusMageezack wrote: »

If not then by all means keep creating threads like these

I have created this thread ? News to me :-)

BaldusMageezack · October 2015

tinythinker wrote: »

BaldusMageezack wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

BaldusMageezack wrote: »

People just want to be heard.

No, people want to be obeyed.

They've been heard. They've been answered. With a "no, not now".
They're just not happy with the answer and think getting noisier will change that but it won't.

They're just children who don't accept the entire world not revolving around them and shaping like they wish.

The only problem with that is that their noise disturbs everyone.

In other words you want them to sit quietly and conform to your will. Not gonna happen. People do what they want and you can't bend them to your will. The best thing you can do is accept it. If not then by all means keep creating threads like these but honestly they serve no purpose except to waste space on the forum. How is this even an ESO forum issue?

It is forum issue because some people actually like ESO Live, and the content it offers, and don't appreciate people being rude with chat spam. I don't have to agree or disagree with that view to acknowledge it and appreciate why some folks find rude and insulting chat comments frustrating or annoying.

Not sure how wishing for people to be reasonable or polite is an attempt to silence dissent and bend people's wills, but, OK. Keep fighting that fight for freedom from oppression. On a chat stream. About a video game.

Sounds like a twitch issue to me

Riga_Mortis · October 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Dazza1968 wrote: »

People are offended over the " we want PvP arena " spam in chat, or have I missed something?

It's not the "we want PvP arena" spamming in chat per se. Even if it sounded very childish and I felt ashamed of our community.

It's because of all the insults that were around it.

Senior art designer was showing and explaining excellent stuff about the creation of Orsinium for instance and all those kids in chat were there with "stop the nonsense, we don't care, just shut up, we want pvp arena".

It's not freedom of speech any more, it's plain lack of respect.

Ah ok, thanks for clearing that up for me as I shut down chat as the spamming got quicker.