Stikato wrote: »

ugh, complaining about spammers.

Out of 10 skills I have:

3 are 23-33 sec timed buffs
2 are toggles
1 is caltrops
1 is streak
1 is a gap closer

Leaving 2(!) "anytime" damage abilities.

In this patch I have been gotten hate whispers for using my gap closer, and for using my two damage skills repeatedly.

If I had an OP attack chain like a NB, I'd use that instead. But I don't. So wtf exactly am I supposed to do to fight honorably, oh mighty pvp god?

P.S. Thanks for the stones

This^

What I don't understand is people crying over a single skill being spammed.... pretty much all skills have at least one hard counter.... If you are repeatedly being killed by the same skill you obviously aren't learning from those encounters.

Conquers wrote: »

Too many posts on this

WB spam wah wah wah

okay, i get massacred by crystal frag spam, i have yet to make a post about it. i hope crystal frag isnt nerfed though. stop crying. if they nerf wb again pve will suffer

Sorcs don't spam crystal frags in PvP.. But thank you for not wanting to nerf something you don't understand.

k2blader wrote: »

Conquers wrote: »

Too many posts on this

WB spam wah wah wah

okay, i get massacred by crystal frag spam, i have yet to make a post about it. i hope crystal frag isnt nerfed though. stop crying. if they nerf wb again pve will suffer

Sorcs don't spam crystal frags in PvP.. But thank you for not wanting to nerf something you don't understand.

A sorc who spam fragments most of the times is dead with my dk but if he does not spam it his damage overhall is very low and the fight can go on for 10-20 minutes without a winner ( since the damage of a magika dk sucks) .

WB on the other side is a little more difficult to counter with a magika build : if you block it more than half of your stamina is gone and if you cc breack all your stamina is gone and for what? 3 seconds immunity doge roĺl is ok but i found more confortable to use potions at least in 15 seconds i can generate enought damage to kill my opponent.

Clearly evry skill has a counter but i found that dying on a spammer is one of the things that make me ragequit.

notimetocare wrote: »

That's 90% of how combat works in this game. You really only have 1 or 2 primary damage skills. 2H is WB and executioner. Bow is snipe and a dot, expect much else?

Stop trying to make yourself feel better.

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

xXNesTXx wrote: »

Slayyer-AUS wrote: »

Cry cry cry lol that's all people do on this forum

LOL another noob WB spammer arrived to this thread!

Lol.... Slayyer, you're noob.... LMAO!!!

You two should post DPS reports for bragging rights.... trololololol

yeah, you are a pro player pressing one single button ¬¬

Stikato wrote: »

ugh, complaining about spammers.

Out of 10 skills I have:

3 are 23-33 sec timed buffs
2 are toggles
1 is caltrops
1 is streak
1 is a gap closer

Leaving 2(!) "anytime" damage abilities.

In this patch I have been gotten hate whispers for using my gap closer, and for using my two damage skills repeatedly.

If I had an OP attack chain like a NB, I'd use that instead. But I don't. So wtf exactly am I supposed to do to fight honorably, oh mighty pvp god?

P.S. Thanks for the stones

You mean Ambush + Surprise Attack? Yeah so much more options!

Wrecking Blow just highly favor's the dodge roll nerf. You gotta take a lot more WB's to the chin now. At least as a nightblade i can cloak them, not sure what i would do if i played any other class. Just block i guess or kite around it. However WB has immense range, so kite through them.

LBxFinalDeath wrote: »

I personally have seen more Sorcs spamming crystal fragments than I have wrecking blow spammers.

Where are the threads about crystal frags knocking you down and doing at times 10-15K damage and a pretty good chance of having another instantly ready to cast if you're durable enough to not get crit rekt.

From what I've seen its about 2 streaks then crystal frag spam then repeat til the Sorc's opponent is dead.

because crystal frags are pretty easy to counter, i kill sorcs way to easy reflecting that *** back at them lol

WB spammers you can get stuck in CC and by the time you break out you're dead lol people literally build their character around one spell, its like when snipe was the Skill to spam.. people just can't handle flipping from 1st bar to 2nd bar.

LBxFinalDeath wrote: »

I wouldn't say Crystal Frags are all that easy to counter.

On Xbox at least, I dodge roll and the frags track me regardless and knock me down mid-roll.

I block and while it does less damage it still knocks me down regardless that my stamina is full.

They take the time I'm on the ground to light me up with another crystal frag or if they don't get lucky they put on overload and go to town.


Don't get me wrong, they are easy to kill its just if they start the frags spam they become one of the most annoying things I have to fight...far moreso than WB spammers.

Also I've seen the vids of WB keeping people in CC for ages but I personally have only seen in-game the animation break which allows you to use it much faster but the enemy is still able to get up quickly and escape, i assume it could be a timing thing.

well I'm guessing you're not a DK ? or a templar? because reflecting that really solves that issue, once someone gets marked in my book that they're spamming frags, i just spam my wings. yes, they can be annoying, but i have more of a issue with WB because of the CC.. and it holding me to the ground for ages, and there is a filthy combo i see some people using with caltrops that basically gets the person stuck on the ground until they're dead...

ingeneral i don't think there should be 1 skill to rule them all, I've seen EVERY class using WB. i think once you can predict your death cap sheet every time you die, theres a problem lol

only prob i have against sorcs is when they shield stacking harness and healing ward. that is a pain to breakthrough..

WB only thing i can really do is talon them and hope i can recover from the ground and flick the wrist on em..

NB definitely have a easier route against WB vs Frags..

Whenever i see a shield stacking Sorc, if he is alone I buff up my weapon damage as much as possible then go werewolf after cloaking up next to him.

The fear drains their stamina, I pounce at them til they are out of magicka when they start to streak away then go to town with rousing roar to finish them off and typically keep them pinned on the ground since unless they manually break out which takes a giant chunk of stamina they can quite literally be stuck on the ground til I run out of stamina.

If they streak into me, I break out and fear them and follow up before they break out with rousing roar. =P

If its a shield stacked Sorc with a group? I stay far away. lol

Yeah I know WW isn't that great of an ultimate to use but its just fun to rek people as one, they never expect it.

Its a great anti-ganking Ultimate, catches them off guard.

The giant buff WW form got made my job at doing this much easier since faaaar less squishy.

Easiest fix for WB would be that if you block it, it stuns the guy who used it just like how if you block an NPC doing it...it causes that effect.

It'd stop the spam cuz ofc the stun they'd have to break out of.

So it won't render the move useless make it take a giant chunk of stamina to block and it only stuns you (if this is possible) if a player does it not an NPC.

Yeah, the 10K+ or so armor rating ontop of your normal armor rating a Vet 14 WW gets is pretty great, it gets even higher for the new vet ranks.

Had two Vet 16 Sorcs chasing me and my friend after they tried to gank him and ended up dying inbetween glademist and aleswell, they didn't expect the large amount of damage werewolves do ontop of their new durability.

Still despite its buff, its extremely situational still.

Some fights its still better to be in human form...like when breaching the outer wall of a Fort, when on the inside thats where its an effective thing to use and such. Its pretty self explanatory when you should use it.

Perhaps reduce the range of WB?

I have seen some pretty silly stuff happen...such as unless an enemy turns and runs away once a 2H user starts the animation for WB or runs past them to cancel it (I actually only ever see Nightblades do this to counter WB, idk why), the blow will still hit them despite it being far past its supposed "max range to hit"

All the while the user is moving back and forward as the animation is going to make it look even more off.

Just throwing stuff out there from the top of my head.