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Loading screens takes too long - after latest patch

  • Vez
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    This is an issue we're tracking and have some fixes in the works for next weeks patch.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler Can we expect a fix at some point? It's been four weeks.
  • Vez
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    This is an issue we're tracking and have some fixes in the works for next weeks patch.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler How are those fixes coming? We're now in the 6th week since you said this would be fixed "next week".
  • Belidos
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    Vez wrote: »
    This is an issue we're tracking and have some fixes in the works for next weeks patch.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler How are those fixes coming? We're now in the 6th week since you said this would be fixed "next week".

    There have been multiple tweaks and adjustments since the issue rose its head, they're just not listed in the patch notes. It's not something they can fix right away without breaking other stuff, and apparently they're constantly making changes each patch to make it better. So far it's worked for some and not others.
  • gen_reynard2050
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    Vez wrote: »
    This is an issue we're tracking and have some fixes in the works for next weeks patch.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler How are those fixes coming? We're now in the 6th week since you said this would be fixed "next week".

    red-fox-emoticon-13.gif?1292871603 im know they are trying.....dont push them too hard, just be patient..
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  • Sotha_Sil
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    I spend more time loading than actually playing. We have been waiting for a fix for those loading screens for more than one month and nothing came up ? This is unacceptable. I think I have been patient enough.
    Edited by Sotha_Sil on October 12, 2015 1:55PM
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  • gen_reynard2050
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    unacceptable only.. but is does still loading right? to me, thanks to the loading time, I can go to toilet, then get my snacks....but when i return...is still loading.. :D
    Edited by gen_reynard2050 on October 12, 2015 2:00PM
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  • Vez
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    Belidos wrote: »
    Vez wrote: »
    This is an issue we're tracking and have some fixes in the works for next weeks patch.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler How are those fixes coming? We're now in the 6th week since you said this would be fixed "next week".

    There have been multiple tweaks and adjustments since the issue rose its head, they're just not listed in the patch notes. It's not something they can fix right away without breaking other stuff, and apparently they're constantly making changes each patch to make it better. So far it's worked for some and not others.

    Could you direct me to where I can find some corroboration?
  • Ashtaris
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    We all keep hoping "Is the fix going to be in this weeks patch?" Nope, back to the bio, cigarette, beer time break loading screens!!
  • Palidon
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    Maintenance complete and as usual no fix for the long launcher time and of course load screens. ZOS you are setting a record for total incompetence.
  • LameoveR
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    Same long loading screens?
    Good that without DLC it's still ~1min :p
  • myrrrorb14_ESO
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    Vez wrote: »
    Belidos wrote: »
    Vez wrote: »
    This is an issue we're tracking and have some fixes in the works for next weeks patch.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler How are those fixes coming? We're now in the 6th week since you said this would be fixed "next week".

    There have been multiple tweaks and adjustments since the issue rose its head, they're just not listed in the patch notes. It's not something they can fix right away without breaking other stuff, and apparently they're constantly making changes each patch to make it better. So far it's worked for some and not others.

    Could you direct me to where I can find some corroboration?

    Its gotten better for me at least. The loading screens have decreased in frequency and duration for the most part. It still is longer on average than it should be (sitting at about 1-2 minutes). The long ones seem to happen late at night for me.

    I do occasionally get the 5+ minute load, but is very rare. It was happening all the time at release. It was so bad I would just turn off the game.

  • sparafucilsarwb17_ESO
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    Haven't seen any improvement. This needs to get ASAP, I for one am not wasting any more time waiting for loadscreens. When it's fixed I will come back to the game...oh wait apart from pledges there's no longer any group pve content worth doing...
    Edited by sparafucilsarwb17_ESO on October 12, 2015 2:27PM
  • Cillion3117
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    It only does it on my main who is VR15. All my lower level toons never have any problems.
  • Belidos
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    Vez wrote: »
    Belidos wrote: »
    Vez wrote: »
    This is an issue we're tracking and have some fixes in the works for next weeks patch.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler How are those fixes coming? We're now in the 6th week since you said this would be fixed "next week".

    There have been multiple tweaks and adjustments since the issue rose its head, they're just not listed in the patch notes. It's not something they can fix right away without breaking other stuff, and apparently they're constantly making changes each patch to make it better. So far it's worked for some and not others.

    Could you direct me to where I can find some corroboration?

    Can't find anything at the moment (a bit busy at work), but it's there somewhere, one of the devs posed about it last week in response to one of the dozens of loading screen threads, he listed a few of the patches and explained that's what they were doing.
  • danew6
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    It only does it on my main who is VR15. All my lower level toons never have any problems.

    I found a new toon had normal loading screens too, until I hit level 24 with that character long long loading screens started again. It's ridiculous how much time is wasted on loading screens. It's to the point where I don't want to change locations or enter any door that will cause a loading screen.
    Play on PS4 I do like the game, I just feel it could be a lot better and would like to feel like the devolpers actually care about the game and not just making money
  • Sharkano
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    When this game was in beta and then released, we had no lag in Cyrodil, even in huge fights, and quick loading screens. Now, almost two years later, even 1/3-sized fights in Cyro are lagfests, and loading screens take forever. And you think they are fixing things, lol?
  • nimander99
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    Sharkano wrote: »
    When this game was in beta and then released, we had no lag in Cyrodil, even in huge fights, and quick loading screens. Now, almost two years later, even 1/3-sized fights in Cyro are lagfests, and loading screens take forever. And you think they are fixing things, lol?

    And no animals in Cyrodiil anymore... don't forget the important stuffs brah ;)
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  • Redeviledna666
    No improvement here, mildly annoying now (ok, more than mildly).. 3+ mins, where before IC patch, 30secs at most.
  • Personofsecrets
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    Jimboo84 wrote: »
    Restarting the game doesn't resolve this issue. I'm back in the same group, when entering that dungeon again hanging loading screen, already for minutes again. Can't continue these quests.

    You group leader has to disband the group.
  • winterbornb14_ESO
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    What, you mean we were right all along and its NOT OUR COMPUTER ?

    I am shocked.
  • Arunei
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    The weird thing is I was having no issues with long loading screens on my previous computer (i5 quad-core processor w/ 8GB of RAM and working with integrated graphics). On the Alienware (i3 dual-core processor, still 8GB of RAM but now running a 645GTX GPU) I use now, though, I'm actually starting to really feel the loading times.

    At least I'm getting a lot more FPS when I can actually play?
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  • nathan_bri
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    @ZOS_BrianWheeler , unless you can get the minute and a half loading screen times down to 10 seconds or less, a more reasonable loading time seen in other MMOs, then you've not really solved the problem.

    I wrote this in another thread, but I'll post it here as well:

    I've tested login times in ESO as well as WoW, Rift, GW2 and Wildstar. Only with ESO does it take more than 10 seconds to go from character-selection screen to staring at your character within the 3D world. With the other games, it's typically between 5 and 7 seconds, sometimes going as long as 9 or 10 seconds.

    With ESO, even in the beginning, it was always longer than 10 seconds, which is terrible. Your players should never be waiting more than 10 seconds to get into the game world. Every second past that feels like an eternity.

    After some extensive testing, I am pretty sure the recent login times are due to something that changed on the megaserver when IC was released. My theory is that they changed hardware infrastructure, probably dialing things down due to cost-cutting measures, thus their almost total silence on the matter: "You do not talk about Fight Club." Note the following after logging in from scratch this past week:

    1. Choose a character and log into Craglorn and you'll be waiting for a good minute and a half, even with no add ons loaded. This is true for both Windows and Mac client (I run both). Some other zones take as long as Craglorn, some less. I've seen loading times as low as 30 seconds for Deshaan, both VR and non-VR.

    2. Subsequent logins on that same character into Craglorn, or onto other characters also in Craglorn cut the time down by several seconds, which leads me to conclude that there is some local caching of the zone data.

    3. Teleporting from one location in Craglorn to another location via Wayshrines only takes a couple seconds. This means that remaining in the same zone channel and updating your client with proximity mob data is fairly irrelevant in that original minute and a half login.

    4. Teleporting to another player within Craglorn, perhaps because you are in a dangerous location, can also sometimes take just a few seconds. It can also sometimes take the full minute and a half we see during login. Note that this is not teleporting into or out of a Delve, Public Dungeon or even a Trial—just one part of the zone to another. This must be due to the fact that the other player is in a different zone channel. This is a significant problem and probably the biggest clue as to why things are now taking so long.

    My conclusion is that whatever ZeniMax is doing to implement zone channels is now slowing things down. Going out on a limb, perhaps it's a new throttling mechanism due to downscaling the hardware to save money. Perhaps it's a bug and they've actually increased their hardware profile. We don't know because they have not said much.

    It was one thing when leaving AA and zoning into Craglorn took a minute and a half. You did that so rarely that we just put up with it. It's quite another to incur that old minute and a half delay when swapping toons for dailies, hirelings or writs or when teleporting around the world in general. It's caused me to not play very much lately except for that final bout of time testing because I've become disgusted with client-server performance.

    When other MMOs offer 6-10 second character screen-to-3D world loading times, a minute and a half is simply unacceptable, no matter how good the game is otherwise. Zeni, your goal should be to bring that minute and a half down to 10 seconds or less. Otherwise, folks are going to become more and more frustrated.
  • Vez
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    This is an issue we're tracking and have some fixes in the works for next weeks patch.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler Still not fixed?
  • b92303008rwb17_ESO
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    Vez wrote: »
    This is an issue we're tracking and have some fixes in the works for next weeks patch.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler Still not fixed?

    I guess he is going to reply soon, like Cubs are going to win world series.
  • Keepercraft
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    Vez wrote: »
    This is an issue we're tracking and have some fixes in the works for next weeks patch.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler Still not fixed?

    I guess he is going to reply soon, like Cubs are going to win world series.

    They need buy better servers or add more servers to fix that loading screens.
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  • Prodigy1971
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    I play on PS4 EU and the loading screens are killing me. I am questing in Cyrodiil every day to get my CPs up and some quests lead you into the Cyrodiil dungeons. Small dungeons with only a few monsters in there with 2-3 rooms. It takes me over 5 minutes to enter and even more to leave the dungeon.

    Absolutely sick.
  • tordr86b16_ESO
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    This is an issue we're tracking and have some fixes in the works for next weeks patch.

    RickRoll much? :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

    Edited by tordr86b16_ESO on October 21, 2015 6:58AM
  • tordr86b16_ESO
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    loading screen - 30 seconds of role play - loading screen ....
  • Ommy71
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    I play Skyrim between loading screen.

    /sarcasm off
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  • iTzStevey
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    Loading screens on Azura EU ps4 were horrendous last night. 8 minutes to get into a laggy mess that was literally unplayable.
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