Awesome as always man! Thanks!
I noticed your not using relentless focus anymore?
its a good build BUT if you run into a good player using shield breaker you have no hope, thats why i swapped the shields for rapid regen+swallow soul+blessing of restoration..and i think its crazy to not use double take, the dodge chance its just too good.... you can also replace molag kena-blood spawn-torug with 4 pc magnus, easy to get and you can choose traits
its a good build BUT if you run into a good player using shield breaker you have no hope, thats why i swapped the shields for rapid regen+swallow soul+blessing of restoration..and i think its crazy to not use double take, the dodge chance its just too good.... you can also replace molag kena-blood spawn-torug with 4 pc magnus, easy to get and you can choose traits
This, run into a stamina nb using mark who also has shieldbreaker, and game over:/ Other then that its a good build I guess.
I don't have much problems so far, they die quite fast for most of them and if they abuse shieldbreaker+light attack spam, I just dont use shields until I'm at ~30% hp@Erondil do you think is viable against stam nb ?
its a good build BUT if you run into a good player using shield breaker you have no hope, thats why i swapped the shields for rapid regen+swallow soul+blessing of restoration..and i think its crazy to not use double take, the dodge chance its just too good.... you can also replace molag kena-blood spawn-torug with 4 pc magnus, easy to get and you can choose traits
Why magickareg on jewelry? Cost reduction glyph is way more better.. And yes double take + purge are core abilitys for defense.
I don't have much problems so far, they die quite fast for most of them and if they abuse shieldbreaker+light attack spam, I just dont use shields until I'm at ~30% hp@Erondil do you think is viable against stam nb ?its a good build BUT if you run into a good player using shield breaker you have no hope, thats why i swapped the shields for rapid regen+swallow soul+blessing of restoration..and i think its crazy to not use double take, the dodge chance its just too good.... you can also replace molag kena-blood spawn-torug with 4 pc magnus, easy to get and you can choose traits
In 1v1 I don't have much issue agaisnt shield breaker because good players don't abuse it with bow+light attack spam, they use it in a rotation (light attack+skill+ optionnal bash) to also be able to kill non-shields users with the same build. I can deal with the 2k extra dmg thanks to cloak (if I'm not marked) shadow image, rolldodge or los. Players who use it with bow LA spam are usually bad players so just dps through it without using shields and they will forgot to go defensive and miserably die.
In 1vX, mark+shieldbreaker bow LA spam is pretty hard to deal with tho, I try to los+use shadow image and kill the shieldbreaker user first. But when there is 1-2 bow shieldbreaker user and one healer yeah.. I just die or flee.
If you want to go more defensive to counter shieldbreaker, you can switch cripple or harness for blessing of restoration if you want, imo it's just not worth it for the moment (not that many ppl running around with bow+shieldbreaker)
Also yes, 4 magnus is another option but if you can get the good undaunted pieces with the good traits, one magicka regen and one max magicka bonus is not worth one spell damage bonus and one stam regen bonus imo.Why magickareg on jewelry? Cost reduction glyph is way more better.. And yes double take + purge are core abilitys for defense.
With 5p willow's path and 5 lights, magicka regen glyph gives more sustain than reduce cost. Gotta thanks @Soulac and his calculator for that
I don't have much problems so far, they die quite fast for most of them and if they abuse shieldbreaker+light attack spam, I just dont use shields until I'm at ~30% hp@Erondil do you think is viable against stam nb ?its a good build BUT if you run into a good player using shield breaker you have no hope, thats why i swapped the shields for rapid regen+swallow soul+blessing of restoration..and i think its crazy to not use double take, the dodge chance its just too good.... you can also replace molag kena-blood spawn-torug with 4 pc magnus, easy to get and you can choose traits
In 1v1 I don't have much issue agaisnt shield breaker because good players don't abuse it with bow+light attack spam, they use it in a rotation (light attack+skill+ optionnal bash) to also be able to kill non-shields users with the same build. I can deal with the 2k extra dmg thanks to cloak (if I'm not marked) shadow image, rolldodge or los. Players who use it with bow LA spam are usually bad players so just dps through it without using shields and they will forgot to go defensive and miserably die.
In 1vX, mark+shieldbreaker bow LA spam is pretty hard to deal with tho, I try to los+use shadow image and kill the shieldbreaker user first. But when there is 1-2 bow shieldbreaker user and one healer yeah.. I just die or flee.
If you want to go more defensive to counter shieldbreaker, you can switch cripple or harness for blessing of restoration if you want, imo it's just not worth it for the moment (not that many ppl running around with bow+shieldbreaker)
Also yes, 4 magnus is another option but if you can get the good undaunted pieces with the good traits, one magicka regen and one max magicka bonus is not worth one spell damage bonus and one stam regen bonus imo.Why magickareg on jewelry? Cost reduction glyph is way more better.. And yes double take + purge are core abilitys for defense.
With 5p willow's path and 5 lights, magicka regen glyph gives more sustain than reduce cost. Gotta thanks @Soulac and his calculator for that
Magicka Reg = around 300+ every 2 sec depending how many points you got in the champion Passives, if vampire, if high elf etc. but per glyph of 169 you get around 300 overall.
One cost reduction glyph doesn't grant you 200, it's rather around 150 under normal circumstances.
I this case pretty even.
The more mag Reg increases you get, the better it is, especially thanks to willows path.
Magicka Reg = around 300+ every 2 sec depending how many points you got in the champion Passives, if vampire, if high elf etc. but per glyph of 169 you get around 300 overall.
One cost reduction glyph doesn't grant you 200, it's rather around 150 under normal circumstances.
I this case pretty even.
The more mag Reg increases you get, the better it is, especially thanks to willows path.
I don't have much problems so far, they die quite fast for most of them and if they abuse shieldbreaker+light attack spam, I just dont use shields until I'm at ~30% hp@Erondil do you think is viable against stam nb ?its a good build BUT if you run into a good player using shield breaker you have no hope, thats why i swapped the shields for rapid regen+swallow soul+blessing of restoration..and i think its crazy to not use double take, the dodge chance its just too good.... you can also replace molag kena-blood spawn-torug with 4 pc magnus, easy to get and you can choose traits
In 1v1 I don't have much issue agaisnt shield breaker because good players don't abuse it with bow+light attack spam, they use it in a rotation (light attack+skill+ optionnal bash) to also be able to kill non-shields users with the same build. I can deal with the 2k extra dmg thanks to cloak (if I'm not marked) shadow image, rolldodge or los. Players who use it with bow LA spam are usually bad players so just dps through it without using shields and they will forgot to go defensive and miserably die.
In 1vX, mark+shieldbreaker bow LA spam is pretty hard to deal with tho, I try to los+use shadow image and kill the shieldbreaker user first. But when there is 1-2 bow shieldbreaker user and one healer yeah.. I just die or flee.
If you want to go more defensive to counter shieldbreaker, you can switch cripple or harness for blessing of restoration if you want, imo it's just not worth it for the moment (not that many ppl running around with bow+shieldbreaker)
Also yes, 4 magnus is another option but if you can get the good undaunted pieces with the good traits, one magicka regen and one max magicka bonus is not worth one spell damage bonus and one stam regen bonus imo.Why magickareg on jewelry? Cost reduction glyph is way more better.. And yes double take + purge are core abilitys for defense.
With 5p willow's path and 5 lights, magicka regen glyph gives more sustain than reduce cost. Gotta thanks @Soulac and his calculator for that
Magicka Reg = around 300+ every 2 sec depending how many points you got in the champion Passives, if vampire, if high elf etc. but per glyph of 169 you get around 300 overall.
One cost reduction glyph doesn't grant you 200, it's rather around 150 under normal circumstances.
I this case pretty even.
The more mag Reg increases you get, the better it is, especially thanks to willows path.
Yes this is critical piece: regen scales much better with increasing CPs and stats. Cost reduction gets worse with increasing CPs and stats.
I don't have much problems so far, they die quite fast for most of them and if they abuse shieldbreaker+light attack spam, I just dont use shields until I'm at ~30% hp@Erondil do you think is viable against stam nb ?its a good build BUT if you run into a good player using shield breaker you have no hope, thats why i swapped the shields for rapid regen+swallow soul+blessing of restoration..and i think its crazy to not use double take, the dodge chance its just too good.... you can also replace molag kena-blood spawn-torug with 4 pc magnus, easy to get and you can choose traits
In 1v1 I don't have much issue agaisnt shield breaker because good players don't abuse it with bow+light attack spam, they use it in a rotation (light attack+skill+ optionnal bash) to also be able to kill non-shields users with the same build. I can deal with the 2k extra dmg thanks to cloak (if I'm not marked) shadow image, rolldodge or los. Players who use it with bow LA spam are usually bad players so just dps through it without using shields and they will forgot to go defensive and miserably die.
In 1vX, mark+shieldbreaker bow LA spam is pretty hard to deal with tho, I try to los+use shadow image and kill the shieldbreaker user first. But when there is 1-2 bow shieldbreaker user and one healer yeah.. I just die or flee.
If you want to go more defensive to counter shieldbreaker, you can switch cripple or harness for blessing of restoration if you want, imo it's just not worth it for the moment (not that many ppl running around with bow+shieldbreaker)
Also yes, 4 magnus is another option but if you can get the good undaunted pieces with the good traits, one magicka regen and one max magicka bonus is not worth one spell damage bonus and one stam regen bonus imo.Why magickareg on jewelry? Cost reduction glyph is way more better.. And yes double take + purge are core abilitys for defense.
With 5p willow's path and 5 lights, magicka regen glyph gives more sustain than reduce cost. Gotta thanks @Soulac and his calculator for that
Magicka Reg = around 300+ every 2 sec depending how many points you got in the champion Passives, if vampire, if high elf etc. but per glyph of 169 you get around 300 overall.
One cost reduction glyph doesn't grant you 200, it's rather around 150 under normal circumstances.
I this case pretty even.
The more mag Reg increases you get, the better it is, especially thanks to willows path.
Yes this is critical piece: regen scales much better with increasing CPs and stats. Cost reduction gets worse with increasing CPs and stats.
Are you sure that stamina cost reduction reduce bash? I think it reduces only roll-dodge, break free and skills.I don't have much problems so far, they die quite fast for most of them and if they abuse shieldbreaker+light attack spam, I just dont use shields until I'm at ~30% hp@Erondil do you think is viable against stam nb ?its a good build BUT if you run into a good player using shield breaker you have no hope, thats why i swapped the shields for rapid regen+swallow soul+blessing of restoration..and i think its crazy to not use double take, the dodge chance its just too good.... you can also replace molag kena-blood spawn-torug with 4 pc magnus, easy to get and you can choose traits
In 1v1 I don't have much issue agaisnt shield breaker because good players don't abuse it with bow+light attack spam, they use it in a rotation (light attack+skill+ optionnal bash) to also be able to kill non-shields users with the same build. I can deal with the 2k extra dmg thanks to cloak (if I'm not marked) shadow image, rolldodge or los. Players who use it with bow LA spam are usually bad players so just dps through it without using shields and they will forgot to go defensive and miserably die.
In 1vX, mark+shieldbreaker bow LA spam is pretty hard to deal with tho, I try to los+use shadow image and kill the shieldbreaker user first. But when there is 1-2 bow shieldbreaker user and one healer yeah.. I just die or flee.
If you want to go more defensive to counter shieldbreaker, you can switch cripple or harness for blessing of restoration if you want, imo it's just not worth it for the moment (not that many ppl running around with bow+shieldbreaker)
Also yes, 4 magnus is another option but if you can get the good undaunted pieces with the good traits, one magicka regen and one max magicka bonus is not worth one spell damage bonus and one stam regen bonus imo.Why magickareg on jewelry? Cost reduction glyph is way more better.. And yes double take + purge are core abilitys for defense.
With 5p willow's path and 5 lights, magicka regen glyph gives more sustain than reduce cost. Gotta thanks @Soulac and his calculator for that
Magicka Reg = around 300+ every 2 sec depending how many points you got in the champion Passives, if vampire, if high elf etc. but per glyph of 169 you get around 300 overall.
One cost reduction glyph doesn't grant you 200, it's rather around 150 under normal circumstances.
I this case pretty even.
The more mag Reg increases you get, the better it is, especially thanks to willows path.
Yes this is critical piece: regen scales much better with increasing CPs and stats. Cost reduction gets worse with increasing CPs and stats.
And keep in mind that they're kind of equal if you cast one spell every second, which is not always the case.
Stamina Reg vs cost on the other side.. Well it reduces Break-Free, bash etc. so cost reduction is mostly better.
Are you sure that stamina cost reduction reduce bash? I think it reduces only roll-dodge, break free and skills.I don't have much problems so far, they die quite fast for most of them and if they abuse shieldbreaker+light attack spam, I just dont use shields until I'm at ~30% hp@Erondil do you think is viable against stam nb ?its a good build BUT if you run into a good player using shield breaker you have no hope, thats why i swapped the shields for rapid regen+swallow soul+blessing of restoration..and i think its crazy to not use double take, the dodge chance its just too good.... you can also replace molag kena-blood spawn-torug with 4 pc magnus, easy to get and you can choose traits
In 1v1 I don't have much issue agaisnt shield breaker because good players don't abuse it with bow+light attack spam, they use it in a rotation (light attack+skill+ optionnal bash) to also be able to kill non-shields users with the same build. I can deal with the 2k extra dmg thanks to cloak (if I'm not marked) shadow image, rolldodge or los. Players who use it with bow LA spam are usually bad players so just dps through it without using shields and they will forgot to go defensive and miserably die.
In 1vX, mark+shieldbreaker bow LA spam is pretty hard to deal with tho, I try to los+use shadow image and kill the shieldbreaker user first. But when there is 1-2 bow shieldbreaker user and one healer yeah.. I just die or flee.
If you want to go more defensive to counter shieldbreaker, you can switch cripple or harness for blessing of restoration if you want, imo it's just not worth it for the moment (not that many ppl running around with bow+shieldbreaker)
Also yes, 4 magnus is another option but if you can get the good undaunted pieces with the good traits, one magicka regen and one max magicka bonus is not worth one spell damage bonus and one stam regen bonus imo.Why magickareg on jewelry? Cost reduction glyph is way more better.. And yes double take + purge are core abilitys for defense.
With 5p willow's path and 5 lights, magicka regen glyph gives more sustain than reduce cost. Gotta thanks @Soulac and his calculator for that
Magicka Reg = around 300+ every 2 sec depending how many points you got in the champion Passives, if vampire, if high elf etc. but per glyph of 169 you get around 300 overall.
One cost reduction glyph doesn't grant you 200, it's rather around 150 under normal circumstances.
I this case pretty even.
The more mag Reg increases you get, the better it is, especially thanks to willows path.
Yes this is critical piece: regen scales much better with increasing CPs and stats. Cost reduction gets worse with increasing CPs and stats.
And keep in mind that they're kind of equal if you cast one spell every second, which is not always the case.
Stamina Reg vs cost on the other side.. Well it reduces Break-Free, bash etc. so cost reduction is mostly better.
Are you sure that stamina cost reduction reduce bash? I think it reduces only roll-dodge, break free and skills.I don't have much problems so far, they die quite fast for most of them and if they abuse shieldbreaker+light attack spam, I just dont use shields until I'm at ~30% hp@Erondil do you think is viable against stam nb ?its a good build BUT if you run into a good player using shield breaker you have no hope, thats why i swapped the shields for rapid regen+swallow soul+blessing of restoration..and i think its crazy to not use double take, the dodge chance its just too good.... you can also replace molag kena-blood spawn-torug with 4 pc magnus, easy to get and you can choose traits
In 1v1 I don't have much issue agaisnt shield breaker because good players don't abuse it with bow+light attack spam, they use it in a rotation (light attack+skill+ optionnal bash) to also be able to kill non-shields users with the same build. I can deal with the 2k extra dmg thanks to cloak (if I'm not marked) shadow image, rolldodge or los. Players who use it with bow LA spam are usually bad players so just dps through it without using shields and they will forgot to go defensive and miserably die.
In 1vX, mark+shieldbreaker bow LA spam is pretty hard to deal with tho, I try to los+use shadow image and kill the shieldbreaker user first. But when there is 1-2 bow shieldbreaker user and one healer yeah.. I just die or flee.
If you want to go more defensive to counter shieldbreaker, you can switch cripple or harness for blessing of restoration if you want, imo it's just not worth it for the moment (not that many ppl running around with bow+shieldbreaker)
Also yes, 4 magnus is another option but if you can get the good undaunted pieces with the good traits, one magicka regen and one max magicka bonus is not worth one spell damage bonus and one stam regen bonus imo.Why magickareg on jewelry? Cost reduction glyph is way more better.. And yes double take + purge are core abilitys for defense.
With 5p willow's path and 5 lights, magicka regen glyph gives more sustain than reduce cost. Gotta thanks @Soulac and his calculator for that
Magicka Reg = around 300+ every 2 sec depending how many points you got in the champion Passives, if vampire, if high elf etc. but per glyph of 169 you get around 300 overall.
One cost reduction glyph doesn't grant you 200, it's rather around 150 under normal circumstances.
I this case pretty even.
The more mag Reg increases you get, the better it is, especially thanks to willows path.
Yes this is critical piece: regen scales much better with increasing CPs and stats. Cost reduction gets worse with increasing CPs and stats.
And keep in mind that they're kind of equal if you cast one spell every second, which is not always the case.
Stamina Reg vs cost on the other side.. Well it reduces Break-Free, bash etc. so cost reduction is mostly better.
Yes, I am sure about it.
Are you sure that stamina cost reduction reduce bash? I think it reduces only roll-dodge, break free and skills.I don't have much problems so far, they die quite fast for most of them and if they abuse shieldbreaker+light attack spam, I just dont use shields until I'm at ~30% hp@Erondil do you think is viable against stam nb ?its a good build BUT if you run into a good player using shield breaker you have no hope, thats why i swapped the shields for rapid regen+swallow soul+blessing of restoration..and i think its crazy to not use double take, the dodge chance its just too good.... you can also replace molag kena-blood spawn-torug with 4 pc magnus, easy to get and you can choose traits
In 1v1 I don't have much issue agaisnt shield breaker because good players don't abuse it with bow+light attack spam, they use it in a rotation (light attack+skill+ optionnal bash) to also be able to kill non-shields users with the same build. I can deal with the 2k extra dmg thanks to cloak (if I'm not marked) shadow image, rolldodge or los. Players who use it with bow LA spam are usually bad players so just dps through it without using shields and they will forgot to go defensive and miserably die.
In 1vX, mark+shieldbreaker bow LA spam is pretty hard to deal with tho, I try to los+use shadow image and kill the shieldbreaker user first. But when there is 1-2 bow shieldbreaker user and one healer yeah.. I just die or flee.
If you want to go more defensive to counter shieldbreaker, you can switch cripple or harness for blessing of restoration if you want, imo it's just not worth it for the moment (not that many ppl running around with bow+shieldbreaker)
Also yes, 4 magnus is another option but if you can get the good undaunted pieces with the good traits, one magicka regen and one max magicka bonus is not worth one spell damage bonus and one stam regen bonus imo.Why magickareg on jewelry? Cost reduction glyph is way more better.. And yes double take + purge are core abilitys for defense.
With 5p willow's path and 5 lights, magicka regen glyph gives more sustain than reduce cost. Gotta thanks @Soulac and his calculator for that
Magicka Reg = around 300+ every 2 sec depending how many points you got in the champion Passives, if vampire, if high elf etc. but per glyph of 169 you get around 300 overall.
One cost reduction glyph doesn't grant you 200, it's rather around 150 under normal circumstances.
I this case pretty even.
The more mag Reg increases you get, the better it is, especially thanks to willows path.
Yes this is critical piece: regen scales much better with increasing CPs and stats. Cost reduction gets worse with increasing CPs and stats.
And keep in mind that they're kind of equal if you cast one spell every second, which is not always the case.
Stamina Reg vs cost on the other side.. Well it reduces Break-Free, bash etc. so cost reduction is mostly better.
Yes, I am sure about it.
Thanks Soulac! Great info to know but quick question, if that is the case would it then be better to put CP into reduce stamina cost over tumbling?
I am lvl 46 so a few questions.
You don't use Funnel which I find very helpful...is this because your gear/cps recover enough for you?
No inner light so a 10% crit hit...not missed?
Tks.
@Erondil which weapon trait would be best after nirn, i still dnt hav it /:
TonyMontana569 wrote: »@Erondil But I started 1.7 with the idea to make an hybrid build, and eventhough I dropped it because it was not really efficient (at least not with my amount of CP) I kept a good amount of stamina regen to feel comfortable and be able to dodgeroll quite a lot as magicka build.
Does this mean that you dropped this current build? Or is this still the same build you are running? If it's not the best build, what would you suggest is the best build for this style of play? I took your last build and played exactly like you and it was amazing. Your youtube videos are the reason I play magicka nb .