What ruins pvp for you?

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · October 2015

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What bothers me is that they always have to put NPCs in the mix. Why not just make IC someplace people can pvp without annoying npcs wandering around? Seems like that would help the lag too. Let IC be a giant arena and leave the PVE stuff for the dungeons.

EIGHTS · October 2015

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AD is shame, they work together with EP.
There're no Alliance Wars any more.

Knootewoot · October 2015

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Emperor ship means nothing. I used to look up to someone who had "former emperor" as title, but guild from different factions make agreements and give emperor ship. The whole system is a farce. If I now see a "former emperor" he means nothing to me...

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Etaniel · October 2015

Zergs

Zergs. They are the cause of lag, and ZOS is making it harder and harder to deal with them.

Minnesinger · October 2015

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I think it is a bit related to zergs, but the moment I realize I can´t use a door, skill, mount or something extremely stupid I feel like this game doesn´t deliver a s**t. For over a year we have had performance issues in Cyrodiil. That is something my common sense just can´t adapt to.

Mojmir · October 2015

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dont get AP,caltrops and detonate too high on skill tree for me. shouldnt even be PVP only skills

Gipo · October 2015

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I have to do PvE to be competitive in PvP - this is ruining pvp for me

ThyIronFist · October 2015

Or all of the above..?

Lets see, a clueless company that left PvP in the dark since day 1.

Imagine the potential of this game with some of the changes to Cyrodiil reverted or never have happened in the first place. Battlegrounds, arena's, duelling... but nope. They cared about the PvE and the roleplayers first. Then the console sellout and now they give the PC players a PvE grinding update every 6 months to keep them satisfied.

But yeah... lets sum it up:

- Zergs
- Lack of objectives
- CP and Telvar Stone grind
- Useless rewards
- Removal of camps, oil catapult snare made purgeable, meatbag healing debuff nerfed and my class nerfed to fuck every single patch, ground oil removed, balance being an absolute joke in general when it comes to everything tbh
- The developers not listening and Brian Wheeler seems to be going on a 3-month holiday every now and then, but then he suddenly appears out of nowhere to give us an update on PvP, then disappears again
- No cap on CP in PvP and no catch up system
- Weak sieges (they got buffed yes I know but they are still weak as fuck if you're fighting anything organized or when you're vastly outnumbered or trying to hold a defensive position) and since every pathetic zergboy's skillbar looks like this: AOE PURGE HEAL HEAL AOE there is literally no point in trying anymore
- Having 50000 buff campaigns
- Former Emp passives removed because apparently they were unbalanced and the CP system is not = ZOS logic
- Lets not talk about the performance cause every time I think about the performance in this game I feel my *** are going to explode out of frustration

To be honest not much of a point going back anymore, I came back after 3 months in preparation for the Imperial City but now that the only thing I was looking forward to has gone to absolute crap, there isn't really a point anymore. Not to mention that a lot of friends and guildies also gave up.

Cinbri · October 2015

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9 fps and 999+ latency is only thing.

frozywozy · October 2015

DesertDweller99 wrote: »

What's wrong with Zergs? That's strategy. Zerg vs Zerg vs Zerg is an EPIC battle and the lag is well worth it. Being run over by Zergs suck, but that's just part of the game. When I'm part of a Zerg and we run over everyone, it feels so good.

My only complaint is IC players are counted against the campaign population.

SirAndy · October 2015

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nordickittyhawk wrote: »

What ruins pvp for you?

Other players ...

revonine · October 2015

Lack of objectives

Zergs and lack of rewards play a big part of it for me too. They're seriously gonna need to revamp Cyrodill soon to maintain dedicated PvP-ers. This is from someone that started at CONSOLE LAUNCH. I don't know how you PC guys stuck it out for so long the feels for you are real. It's really starting to get stale.

So many people BEGGING for Magicka Detonation to become what it should be - a zerg buster. Instead you promote zergs and adjust proxy det to make it more useful to zergs. Jesus.

I bust my ass to get into the top two percent to get gold max level gear with exploration as a trait. You've got to be kidding me. I'm dreading Asura's coming to a close in 6 days time.

And finally. PvP-ing should be a viable way to play if someone just wants to PvP. Experience and Gold rewards need further adjustment.

LameoveR · October 2015

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i don't like pvp.
it ruins pvp for me in every game.
ZOS, do something!
:'(

Philelectric · October 2015

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CPs. Its not ruining pvp for me right now but it is going to ruin it in the futur so I might aswell quit now because I am not a grinder.

Nivzruo_ESO · October 2015

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nordickittyhawk wrote: »

Im just gonna see what ruins pvp for most players n see if zenimax will /lurk n see what they can do to improve

Lack of 2v2 3v3 options. And warzones.

SRIBES · October 2015

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Class balance ruins it for me, because there is none.

Itoq · October 2015

Zergs

- gear grind
- various other grinds
- bonuses given to side with more numbers around the clock (ie. scroll & keep bonuses)
- bad net code
- cc break responsiveness
- many poor aural cues and too many important aural cues culled
- some poor visual cues and too many important visual cues able to be altogether cancelled and/or substantially clipped
- animation cancelling is a bit out of hand
- cp system
- making a new PVE/grind area and calling it PVP content
- ttk potentially both too long and too short (both dps and mitigation ranges are too wide & animation cancelling is overly abusable)
- Heavy attack for 40 damage against a player...?
- Oneshot Compilation #2 - just for the LOLs

iTzStevey · October 2015

Or all of the above..?

Zergs- people being in the top 2% and thinking they're good at the game because they ran around the map with 40 people spamming AOE.

Lack of rewards.

The need to do boring (for me) pve when all i want to do is pvp.

The CP system- You need atleast 300 in order to be competitive it seems.

Damage reduction - this was supposed to help newer players or something right? All it has done is increase the need for CP.

The lag....never seen anything like it,once it starts i just close the game because i know its going to be pointless playing, and it gets laggy every.single.damn.time.

Alexandrious · October 2015

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Highly exploitable animation cancelling.

Asmael · October 2015

Or all of the above..?

Pretty sure I saw this exact thread some weeks ago...

And it had a "Current ingame mechanics" option. Dunno what happened to it. So I'll just go ahead and pick all of those, since all those have issues, to some extent.

Alcast · October 2015

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Sublime wrote: »

Low build diversity. Gear grind.

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And huge class imbalances

Armitas · October 2015

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Being a magicka DK and having to rely on the same people who put elemental blockade on a maelstrom weapon and 14k damage on a two handed maelstrom. I am doomed.

Master_Kas · October 2015

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Knootewoot wrote: »

contact.opiumb16_ESO wrote: »

inbalances between classes. Stamina NB and sorcerers are 90% of the top 10 players in EU servers... When 2 classes dominate so much, you now their is something wrong

Corrected.

But I agree

Edit: #Nerf Sorc and all forms of stamina attacks

Alexandrious wrote: »

Highly exploitable animation cancelling.

Lmao exploitable, ZOS said it's intended and not an exploit, not even a bug. Learn what an exploit is

BossTuggles · October 2015

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Bring back non capped AoE!

Gilvoth · October 2015

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what ruins pvp for me is 2 things

i love eso and i love pvp but,

there is 3 things ruining pvp for me right now:

1) these champion points
i will NEVER be able to catch up to people with those 501 CP, NEVER!
fact is i only have 278 champion points, and right now that means i pretty much get eaten alive by those with 350 or more champion points and most people have well over 500 and even 1000 champion points. ive played every day since beta and launch and i know for a fact i have played fairly and not grinded and grinded because i hate grinding!
yet those who grind thier brains out are allowed to be more powerfull then the rest of us? its not only unfair its down right mean of the developers to allow people to be so much more over powered like that.
why in heck are you letting people go way out in strength above others?
really terrible!

2) the fact that crowd controll and forcing me to be knocked down on a constant basis and locked into place constantly completely overpowering me with high damage. for me makes pvp unplayable and honestly turns my stomach!
the devs seem to have also placed every few foot something in the enviroment that STOPs me from moving and i cant move!
that alone really pisses me off
I HATE IT!

3) the class imbalances:
its obvious that sorcerers (and used to be dragonights) DOMINNATED everything in pvp
every class should have the same effect and same identical ability damage as the other classes. and right now they dont.

Soris · October 2015

Or all of the above..?

All of them
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Sublime wrote: »

Low build diversity. Gear grind.

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whole 1.6 and 1.7 system with all the nerfs and shìt
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low performance

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+ easily mouse macro-able animation cancelling

Bane_of_Fringe · October 2015

Pain In The Axe wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Pain In The Axe wrote: »

Zos progressively taking away all possible advantages small groups had over the zergtards. GG eso see you all on battlefront 3

I spent months promoting you.... You made a difference.... Then you disappeared....

Yeah well most of our crew quit with 1.7, its a garbage update, little pvp much pve.
You'll find the remnants of short bus in Kholes i believe. To be honest I didnt want to find myself running around in some zerg guild on DC(since there are plenty of them) My good friend unruh on ep stayed to a traditional 12 man I went and played with(and will continue to do so If i log in) but this game just isnt as fun as it was in 1.4-1.6 It really just destroyed the small group mentality by weakening the potential of good players and its just more frustrating than fulfilling these days

Quit playing (for other reasons,) before 1.7 ever hit, but we all saw it coming, and I can't say I miss the game knowing what it has become.

Bane_of_Fringe · October 2015

Knootewoot wrote: »

Emperor ship means nothing. I used to look up to someone who had "former emperor" as title, but guild from different factions make agreements and give emperor ship. The whole system is a farce. If I now see a "former emperor" he means nothing to me...

Never did mean anything, saw 20 DC on crowned on DB in a little over a week about the second month after release.

Title has been a joke this whole time.

Curragraigue · October 2015

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Laggggg

Scyantific · October 2015

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What ruins it for me?

-Zergs
-AD
-EP carebear casuals who run at the first sign of DC/AD competence
-People in zone who refuse to man up and push back