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So is evil hunter procing through shield breaker also intended or....?

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Well at first I had my horrible suspicions but i guess now after some testing with a good friend of mine, it is true.

Evil hunter DOES, i repeat, DOES go through shields WITH shield breaker.

zqn3aGO.jpg

So please, after my last forum post about this and seeing everyone who defended this set I hope you will come forward and tell me that this is still not broken and how fair it is, please, I dare you.
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  • Nafirian
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    Dat zos logic doe
  • LegendaryChef
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    @ZOS_BrianWheeler

    Can you confirm if this is in fact intended?
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    Wow thanks time to slot camo hunter again :)
  • Yonkit
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    Make it possible to crit shields, AND fix the shield breaker set. Two birds, one patch.
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  • LegendaryChef
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    Yonkit wrote: »
    Make it possible to crit shields, AND fix the shield breaker set. Two birds, one patch.

    Well that depends on what you mean by saying fix.
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    Yonkit wrote: »
    Make it possible to crit shields, AND fix the shield breaker set. Two birds, one patch.

    That sounds like something that would be slowly implemented over 25 different patches only to end up not working.
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  • Dyride
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    Expert Hunter and morphs proc from damage and Shield breaker is dealing damage so workings as intended or seems to me.
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    1. Alcast
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      Well at first I had my horrible suspicions but i guess now after some testing with a good friend of mine, it is true.

      Evil hunter DOES, i repeat, DOES go through shields WITH shield breaker.

      zqn3aGO.jpg

      So please, after my last forum post about this and seeing everyone who defended this set I hope you will come forward and tell me that this is still not broken and how fair it is, please, I dare you.

      Awesomo.....I like that, makes me want to wear shieldbreaker again.

      and i guess RIP.
      Edited by Alcast on October 9, 2015 9:44PM
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    2. FireCowCommando
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      Yonkit wrote: »
      Make it possible to crit shields, AND fix the shield breaker set. Two birds, one patch.

      That sounds like something that would be slowly implemented over 25 different patches only to end up not working.

      Woah now, dont push their development team too hard! They have to get some sleep too.
    3. Talcyndl
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      Dyride wrote: »
      Expert Hunter and morphs proc from damage and Shield breaker is dealing damage so workings as intended or seems to me.

      Right. The tooltip says it gives 15% chance on attacks to cause "x" damage.

      Whether that damage is absorbed by shields is an open question - I certainly wouldn't rely on the death recap to verify that extra damage bypassed a shield.
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    4. lostavalon
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      this shield set shouldnt be aloud to deal the killing blow at all imo !
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    5. Talcyndl
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      lostavalon wrote: »
      this shield set shouldnt be aloud to deal the killing blow at all imo !

      That would make it close to useless since you'd still have to burst through the shields.
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    6. Jaronking
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      Well at first I had my horrible suspicions but i guess now after some testing with a good friend of mine, it is true.

      Evil hunter DOES, i repeat, DOES go through shields WITH shield breaker.

      zqn3aGO.jpg

      So please, after my last forum post about this and seeing everyone who defended this set I hope you will come forward and tell me that this is still not broken and how fair it is, please, I dare you.
      Its not broken and it completely fair. ;) I see no problem with this set.
    7. LegendaryChef
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      Talcyndl wrote: »
      Dyride wrote: »
      Expert Hunter and morphs proc from damage and Shield breaker is dealing damage so workings as intended or seems to me.

      Right. The tooltip says it gives 15% chance on attacks to cause "x" damage.

      Whether that damage is absorbed by shields is an open question - I certainly wouldn't rely on the death recap to verify that extra damage bypassed a shield.

      As I said in my original post, "after some testing", the damage was going through the shield and hitting my health with the shield breaker damage. I know this because we stood for about 5-10 minutes and he just hit me with a few light attacks while I was just using hardened ward, at one point he accidentally killed me because of the evil hunter proc and he hit me for 6k camo hunter + 2k shield breaker. I wouldn't have made the post if I didn't know 100% that it works but if your still not satisfied then you can try it yourself to close your question.
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    8. LegendaryChef
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      Jaronking wrote: »
      Well at first I had my horrible suspicions but i guess now after some testing with a good friend of mine, it is true.

      Evil hunter DOES, i repeat, DOES go through shields WITH shield breaker.

      zqn3aGO.jpg

      So please, after my last forum post about this and seeing everyone who defended this set I hope you will come forward and tell me that this is still not broken and how fair it is, please, I dare you.
      Its not broken and it completely fair. ;) I see no problem with this set.

      Ahhhh the troll is also strong in this one :smirk:
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    9. Scyantific
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      Hahahahaha

      Guys, clearly this was a thought out and talked about game design decision by the developers that would not go wrong in any way whatsoever. :D
    10. PenguinInACan
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      Scyantific wrote: »
      Hahahahaha

      Guys, clearly this was a thought out and talked about game design decision by the developers that would not go wrong in any way whatsoever. :D

      And will clearly get a quick fix if it is indeed a bug. They have always been on point with fixing pvp bugs. Eg: caltrops, mercs and the more recent trap that only lasted less than a month on live. /s

      If this was a mechanic on a boss we'd see a hotfix on the next maintenance. If they want these balance issues out before live they need to start paying us to QC the PTS and actually give us all the sets they are trying to balance the game with.
      Edited by PenguinInACan on October 10, 2015 5:44AM
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    11. Alcast
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      Scyantific wrote: »
      Hahahahaha

      Guys, clearly this was a thought out and talked about game design decision by the developers that would not go wrong in any way whatsoever. :D

      And will clearly get a quick fix if it is indeed a bug. They have always been on point with fixing pvp bugs. Eg: caltrops, mercs and the more recent trap that only lasted less than a month on live. /s

      If this was a mechanic on a boss we'd see a hotfix on the next maintenance. If they want these balance issues out before live they need to start paying us to QC the PTS and actually give us all the sets they are trying to balance the game with.

      If this was an Exp grind issue it would have been fixed in a day.

      But then again, there is no bug here, working as intended.
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    12. Rylana
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      Still have yet to die to the shieldbreaker set (its never been on my death recap even though ive heard it earlier in a fight)

      But thanks OP, now someones gonna camo my ass :(
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    13. Talcyndl
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      As I said in my original post, "after some testing", the damage was going through the shield and hitting my health with the shield breaker damage. I know this because we stood for about 5-10 minutes and he just hit me with a few light attacks while I was just using hardened ward, at one point he accidentally killed me because of the evil hunter proc and he hit me for 6k camo hunter + 2k shield breaker. I wouldn't have made the post if I didn't know 100% that it works but if your still not satisfied then you can try it yourself to close your question.

      All good.

      My point is simply that the death recap doesn't tell us that the evil hunter proc bypassed shields. It also includes the light attack damage - which presumably did not.
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    14. Anazasi
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      Yes it is intended. Why wouldn't it be. Maybe you should not be a vamp or WW.
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      Anazasi wrote: »
      Yes it is intended. Why wouldn't it be. Maybe you should not be a vamp or WW.

      Probably because the Shieldbreaker Set effect is the only thing that is meant to bypass shields?
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      Jaronking wrote: »
      Well at first I had my horrible suspicions but i guess now after some testing with a good friend of mine, it is true.

      Evil hunter DOES, i repeat, DOES go through shields WITH shield breaker.

      zqn3aGO.jpg

      So please, after my last forum post about this and seeing everyone who defended this set I hope you will come forward and tell me that this is still not broken and how fair it is, please, I dare you.
      Its not broken and it completely fair. ;) I see no problem with this set.

      Ahhhh the troll is also strong in this one :smirk:
      Hey you dared me but I believe your shields where down or evil hunter hit you and took out your shields that's why that light attack got through and then when you noticed your shields were down you hit healing ward and shield breaker proced on you. So I don't see this as shield breaker fault.

      Or Evil hunter doesn irresistible damage now.
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      So even sorcs can get rekt by multiple camo hunter now huehuehue

      What a well thought out set this is :lol:
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      Anazasi wrote: »
      Yes it is intended. Why wouldn't it be. Maybe you should not be a vamp or WW.

      You don't have to be vamp/WW to die to camo hunter... >_>
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    19. Johngo0036
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      @LegendaryChef - I am assuming that somewhere in the millions of lines of code there is some code that says,

      If Damage caused
      If Evilhunter
      Crit evil hunter

      Probably a bug that will need to be fixed,
      Or Zenni see shield breaker as the type of damage that can crit evilhunter even through a shield.....

      Good luck with getting an answer though..
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      Well at first I had my horrible suspicions but i guess now after some testing with a good friend of mine, it is true.

      Evil hunter DOES, i repeat, DOES go through shields WITH shield breaker.

      zqn3aGO.jpg

      So please, after my last forum post about this and seeing everyone who defended this set I hope you will come forward and tell me that this is still not broken and how fair it is, please, I dare you.

      Thx for the info, i wasn't sure i wanted to use this set, but now i know i will :)

      Helloooo OP sorcerers i come for you !

      Ps : it also goes thru mist form, wich is not a shield :)
      Edited by contact.opiumb16_ESO on October 12, 2015 9:03AM
    21. Soulac
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      Well at first I had my horrible suspicions but i guess now after some testing with a good friend of mine, it is true.

      Evil hunter DOES, i repeat, DOES go through shields WITH shield breaker.

      zqn3aGO.jpg

      So please, after my last forum post about this and seeing everyone who defended this set I hope you will come forward and tell me that this is still not broken and how fair it is, please, I dare you.

      Thx for the info, i wasn't sure i wanted to use this set, but now i know i will :)

      Helloooo OP sorcerers i come for you !

      Ps : it also goes thru mist form, wich is not a shield :)

      It goes through mistform if the one using mistform also got a shield up.
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    22. contact.opiumb16_ESO
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      Soulac wrote: »
      Well at first I had my horrible suspicions but i guess now after some testing with a good friend of mine, it is true.

      Evil hunter DOES, i repeat, DOES go through shields WITH shield breaker.

      zqn3aGO.jpg

      So please, after my last forum post about this and seeing everyone who defended this set I hope you will come forward and tell me that this is still not broken and how fair it is, please, I dare you.

      Thx for the info, i wasn't sure i wanted to use this set, but now i know i will :)

      Helloooo OP sorcerers i come for you !

      Ps : it also goes thru mist form, wich is not a shield :)

      It goes through mistform if the one using mistform also got a shield up.

      Actually it goes thru mist form, no matter what. I don't use shield ever (yes blazing shield is useless) and i have been killed by this set
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