Simply increase stage 1 to an hour like the rest of the stages.
And on a non related note, FIX the Tattoo issue! If your skin is pale then dark ink would stand out even more, not go pale also...

danno8 wrote: »

Right now the most used stage is 4. And you have to do nothing to get it.

The least used stage is 1, and you have to bother to maintain it.

That does seem backwards to me too.

I would suggest in Stage 1 you have normal health regen, and take less damage from fire/fighters guild abilities. Stage 4 you have less health regeneration, take full damage from fire/fighters guild but get the cheaper skills. So stage 1 becomes the more balanced/defensive approach, but stage 4 becomes higher risk/offensive approach.

Yah, only reason my vamp is stage 1 so often is because I find it very fun to feed on enemies in cyrodiil, but beyond that its a chore.

I think, for many, Stage 4 is the most used stage because that's where the timer ends. We don't always get a chance to feed where we are in-game so Stage 4 can linger for quite awhile.

It wouldn't be good to make Stage 4 even weaker because, when you're in a dungeon, sometimes finishing takes quite awhile.

I still think the extra 25% fire damage is still way too much. Werewolves have it good because, while flame is absolutely *everywhere* in end game content, poison isn't used as much. Also, Fire Resist glyphs still don't seem to make much difference.

Why would you want to be stage 1, outside of cosmetic reasons?

ADarklore wrote: »

I never use Vampire abilities... most of them are useless compared to other class or weapon abilities. The 21% cost reduction is not that big of a deal- would be better if there were better abilities. The health regen is also a big factor, as is the ugliness of the increased stages.

For some classes (ie not NB or Sorc) Elusive Mist is the only magicka based speed boost available. Also Bat Swarm is one of the better Ultimates out there for some classes like Templar.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

Why would you want to be stage 1, outside of cosmetic reasons?

This is exactly my point. There is no point unless you want health recovery or look's of course. However in stage one you don't get the cost reduction which make's no sence. Why would your vampire abilities cost less when you are dieing for some blood. Bloodlust? Beat's me.

ADarklore wrote: »

I find it humorous all these people complaining about it being 'difficult' to maintain stage 1... well, the most I go to is stage 2. It is SUPER EASY to hop a Wayshrine to a location near some enemy NPCs, feed, and jump back to the Wayshrine. Most quests are always near Wayshrines... this isn't "difficult" it is just that you don't WANT TO do it.

I never use Vampire abilities... most of them are useless compared to other class or weapon abilities. The 21% cost reduction is not that big of a deal- would be better if there were better abilities. The health regen is also a big factor, as is the ugliness of the increased stages.

I think Vampirism is fine as is but wouldn't complain if they added a bonus for staying at or close to Stage 1.

For someone like me who plays around 4-6 hours when ever i do play eso. This means i must feed once per 30m to keep stage 1, this seems like a lot of time but in eso it feels like every 2 minutes.

Even so, stage one is practically worthless.

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I hope no one take's this thread as a "whine thread". It's more a quality of life discussion about the feed mechanic.

The stage timers aren't really the issue for me as I am always at Stage 4. I never feed, I feel more powerful at Stage 4 constantly.

However, I would like for the Drain Essence healing to go back to what it was before the IC patch.

I like being able to use the Drain on any enemy as many times as I want, but it's worthless for keeping yourself alive. I have two Vampires; one Nightblade, one Sorcerer.

My Sorcerer doesn't have to keep the Drain Essence power slotted as I'm usually at distance. The Vampire Ultimate is all I need, and even then it's in a pinch for healing purposes (even though it's an excellent AoE for multiple tough enemies).

My Nightblade though (as I suspect is the case for most Classes that have to get within and stay within melee range), he uses the Drain Essence quite a bit. It becomes necessary for a multitude of reasons for him, but it just doesn't heal worth a damn anymore, and it's uses as a utility ability for RP'ing a Vampire has been nerfed into the ground.

Keep the Drain Essence targeting availability as it is now, but please put the "Damage Healed" value back to what it was before the IC patch, a fixed value of 150% of the damage dealt.

That's the only way to keep it viable as a usable ability. As of right now, it's healing isn't worth the slot it takes up, and it's directly affecting the viability of using it at all.

ADarklore wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

For someone like me who plays around 4-6 hours when ever i do play eso. This means i must feed once per 30m to keep stage 1, this eems like a lot of time but in eso it feels like every 2 minutes.

Even so, stage one is practically worthless.

Well I tend to play every couple of days and usually 8-10 hours each day and I don't find the feeding time to be too difficult to maintain. Most quests you can easily go into Stage 2, but try soloing a group boss who deals fire damage and you'll be missing that health regen really quick.

It's different for me since i play only on my vet16. So it's Imperial city grind. Which mean's im forced to find other player's to feed on. It mostly come's down to remebering to feed really. I guess im just not used to it.

Alucardo wrote: »

I think it makes sense the way it is now. The more you're crippled by hunger, the stronger you become out of instinct. It should remain how it is.
The point to be stage 1 is so that you aren't hindered as much by the healing debuff (which is huge at stage 4). You're closer to a human form, and as blood sustains a vampire that also makes sense.

If anything, vampires should get a speed buff of some kind because of there lust for blood. Not just in sneak, would be interesting. You prove a good point. Just in vampire movies ive seen, they seem to be weak and dieing without a taste of blood. Then after they are super hero's again.

In the Blade movie's, Blade goes superhuman once he drink's blood.

For me vampire's should want to feed for more power. However its the other way around.

I agree that stage 1 is a bit short, but I would prefer to have more vampire skills to match the 5 found in every other tree, including werewolf. If we have to live with the penalty at all times, unlike werewolf, then the least they can do is give us some choice to gain the passive regen bouns.

choice 2 an 4, we need more reason to drink. atm you gain more from starving than feeding...

unless your night blade, or like to deal bounties feeding is quite a pain.

feeding shouldn't have to be used in stealth, it should be proximity that you bite them. Also should feed off none humanoid.

plus if your in stealth and no one sees you, when you bite someone u shouldn't get bounty, it should cause them go in flight mode if no attacks were made before occurred.

a starved vampire should NEVER be stronger then a feeded vampire... only here in eso we have this crap with starved vampires(zombies) getting stronger