Feedback: Master Destro Staff is Lame

Manoekin · October 2015

Why not make it interesting, and make it a Prismatic Destro Staff? Have it switch spell type every 4 seconds, in line with the new Elemental Succession set. That way you'd get a big bonus on the already weak Destro spells (force shock being unaffected by the staff type and only affected by elemental succession on one element at a time still), and a big bonus some of the time to class skills that match if you have any. I'm not sure if this is actually possible, but I think it'd be pretty fun to play with.

Teargrants · October 2015

They could also just give it a 14k dot like the greatsword/maul and call it a day. Huehuehue.

Manoekin · October 2015

Teargrants wrote: »

They could also just give it a 14k dot like the greatsword/maul and call it a day. Huehuehue.

Might as well make it a fire dot for all of the vampires too, or better yet a dot that goes through shields

Tankqull · October 2015

if wall of elements was atleast a long duration "dot"(like ash cloud or scorched earth etc.) it could be worth it, but with its short duration no one is even using wall of elements.

Teargrants · October 2015

Sounds legit. Besides, "you can just purge it" amirite?

CP5 · October 2015

Question (haven't been on pts yet, only just finished the download), does it proc during the channel of the lightning staff or at all with the aoe or final pulse?

Manoekin · October 2015

CP5 wrote: »

Question (haven't been on pts yet, only just finished the download), does it proc during the channel of the lightning staff or at all with the aoe or final pulse?

Not sure anyone has tested it yet, but I think it would just do the extra damage on the final pulse.

Kaliki · October 2015

CP5 wrote: »

Question (haven't been on pts yet, only just finished the download), does it proc during the channel of the lightning staff or at all with the aoe or final pulse?

It doesn't matter how it works exactly... Its merely 300something damage.
It won't make using WoE worthwhile.
The ability is abysmal if you compare it with lightning splash or even thundering presence...
The Staff needs a major bufg to turn this ability into something one can even consider using.

Teargrants · October 2015

Kaliki wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

Question (haven't been on pts yet, only just finished the download), does it proc during the channel of the lightning staff or at all with the aoe or final pulse?

It doesn't matter how it works exactly... Its merely 300something damage.
It won't make using WoE worthwhile.
The ability is abysmal if you compare it with lightning splash or even thundering presence...
The Staff needs a major bufg to turn this ability into something one can even consider using.

Simple fix, make WoE a CC ability, leave dmg as is.

Fire Wall: snare & miss chance like Cinder Storm
Ice Wall: root & snare
Lightning Wall: stun & concussed

There, I just thought of a way to make the skill useful in less than 30 sec.

Kaliki · October 2015

@Teargrants: I have to say your suggestion isnot bad at all. It would at least fill the role of the missing AOE CC for Templars.

CP5 · October 2015

@Teargrants, aside from the fire staff suggestion and the shock stun they do those already, albeit at a low chance. Frost WoE gained the ability to automatically root chilled targets on top of its snare. Wouldn't hurt if they were common enough to be a hazard.

Teargrants · October 2015

CP5 wrote: »

@Teargrants, aside from the fire staff suggestion and the shock stun they do those already, albeit at a low chance. Frost WoE gained the ability to automatically root chilled targets on top of its snare. Wouldn't hurt if they were common enough to be a hazard.

That's the thing, just go ahead and make root a base part of frost wall rather than a rng proc. Otherwise why use it for CC as a mag build? Sorc has encase, DK has talons, Temp has shards, NB has fear.

Ishammael · October 2015

Teargrants wrote: »

Kaliki wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

Question (haven't been on pts yet, only just finished the download), does it proc during the channel of the lightning staff or at all with the aoe or final pulse?

It doesn't matter how it works exactly... Its merely 300something damage.
It won't make using WoE worthwhile.
The ability is abysmal if you compare it with lightning splash or even thundering presence...
The Staff needs a major bufg to turn this ability into something one can even consider using.

Simple fix, make WoE a CC ability, leave dmg as is.

Fire Wall: snare & miss chance like Cinder Storm
Ice Wall: root & snare
Lightning Wall: stun & concussed

There, I just thought of a way to make the skill useful in less than 30 sec.

Cinder storm doesn't have miss chance. By God I wish it still did...

But yes, please rethink master destroy. Maybe make it allow 2x WoE down at once?

AhPook_Is_Here · October 2015

How about a dot that does 14k and cannot be removed by purge or dark cloak, and does tripple damge if someone tries to remove it with DC or a self-purge or cleanse synergy?

Manoekin · October 2015

Teargrants wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

@Teargrants, aside from the fire staff suggestion and the shock stun they do those already, albeit at a low chance. Frost WoE gained the ability to automatically root chilled targets on top of its snare. Wouldn't hurt if they were common enough to be a hazard.

That's the thing, just go ahead and make root a base part of frost wall rather than a rng proc. Otherwise why use it for CC as a mag build? Sorc has encase, DK has talons, Temp has shards, NB has fear.

Shards only affects one target though, for some really stupid reason. It's probably the easiest of any of those to actually avoid as well since the time from when you start animating the cast to when it hits the ground is probably 2 seconds or something.

NativeJoe · October 2015

our master staff sucks. change the proc... there is no way im going to burn my magic on an attack that does like no damage, is highly situational, for 300 more light attack damage . it is pathetically weak. That or make the walls duration a lot longer, and make it do a lot more damage. honestly I've tried using this with my spell power sets and it isn't even comparable to thundering presence. infact i'd slot one of ur other unsupported abilities before I'd do anything with this enchantment "unstable familar" atleast it does a constant dot on it's own without costing me magic, and it can detonate whenever I feel like it for damage that is the equivalent to atleast 10 walls.

Armitas · October 2015

Maelstrom Inferno staff. Why would they take a skill everyone has been complaining about since 1.6 and make it the core mechanic of the new end game gear?

Teargrants · October 2015

Armitas wrote: »

Maelstrom Inferno staff. Why would they take a skill everyone has been complaining about since 1.6 and make it the core mechanic of the new end game gear?

To tell you what they think of you for using a staff.

revonine · October 2015

"flame reach now has a 50m knockback"

Get off my lawn!

Emma_Overload · October 2015

Destro Staff is just lame, period.

@ZOS, please make this weapon feel awesome, again!

Dracane · October 2015

Yes, please buff destruction staff and this master weapon

it's such a poor skillline and so is this master weapon

Ishammael · October 2015

If it doubled WoE dmg, would you use it? I don't think I would, which is hilarious.

Kaliki · October 2015

Ishammael wrote: »

If it doubled WoE dmg, would you use it? I don't think I would, which is hilarious.

I would most likely not. Find that rather sad.

Lord_Hev · October 2015

Armitas wrote: »

Maelstrom Inferno staff. Why would they take a skill everyone has been complaining about since 1.6 and make it the core mechanic of the new end game gear?

Because the ZOS team are all out-of-touch and don't play their own game.

byrom101b16_ESO · October 2015

Teargrants wrote: »

Kaliki wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

Question (haven't been on pts yet, only just finished the download), does it proc during the channel of the lightning staff or at all with the aoe or final pulse?

It doesn't matter how it works exactly... Its merely 300something damage.
It won't make using WoE worthwhile.
The ability is abysmal if you compare it with lightning splash or even thundering presence...
The Staff needs a major bufg to turn this ability into something one can even consider using.

Simple fix, make WoE a CC ability, leave dmg as is.

Fire Wall: snare & miss chance like Cinder Storm
Ice Wall: root & snare
Lightning Wall: stun & concussed

There, I just thought of a way to make the skill useful in less than 30 sec.

Which is why ZOS will never give you a job...