dwemer_paleologist wrote: »contact.opiumb16_ESO wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »nightblade class and nightblade skills [Stamina] allways has been and still is the weakest of all the classes. we recently had some help but we are still lowest in damage output and survivability.
the magicka nightblade tho is and might be whaat your refering to? they have allways been high in damage and survive longer.
Omg thx dude i loled so hard !
Just watch the leaderboard in EU server :
45% top players are NB, 45% are sorcerers, other 10% is temp and dk. You just can't avoid facts bro'.
In cyro a well known guild leading the board is 100% composed of NB and sorcerers, no other classes... maybe because they are so skilled that they want to play "the weakest of all the classes". C'mon !
i clearly said that [magicka nightblades] were not what i was refering to.
i was refeing to b]Stamin Nightblades[/b
please fully read my comment.
I salute ZOS for creating the most OP class of all times in any game! With the new, silly PvP settings, they have a burst that can actually kill, unlike any other class. They utilize the also completely overpowered two-hander like no other class, and if everything else fails, they can bail out at will with their ridiculous invisibility. I especially love how teleport jump can hit me from three miles away despite me having Clouding Swarm active!
GG, ZOS!
(ò_ó)p
Are we supposed to only play as Nightblades now?
Are there any plans to actually balance this game at some point? Or make it work, as in, fix the bugs? Any information on the matter would be appreciated.
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I salute ZOS for creating the most OP class of all times in any game! With the new, silly PvP settings, they have a burst that can actually kill, unlike any other class. They utilize the also completely overpowered two-hander like no other class, and if everything else fails, they can bail out at will with their ridiculous invisibility. I especially love how teleport jump can hit me from three miles away despite me having Clouding Swarm active!
GG, ZOS!
(ò_ó)p
Are we supposed to only play as Nightblades now?
Are there any plans to actually balance this game at some point? Or make it work, as in, fix the bugs? Any information on the matter would be appreciated.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]
Sigh!
I could list the multitude of mechanics that competent players are using right now to counter and defeat Nightblades but it is up to you you to learn what they are and how to use them. Besides most that make posts like these are not really looking to learn but rather to get ZoS to make a knee jerk reaction to weaken one class to the benefit of their class.
So I'll just leave you this tidbit .....L2P
contact.opiumb16_ESO wrote: »I salute ZOS for creating the most OP class of all times in any game! With the new, silly PvP settings, they have a burst that can actually kill, unlike any other class. They utilize the also completely overpowered two-hander like no other class, and if everything else fails, they can bail out at will with their ridiculous invisibility. I especially love how teleport jump can hit me from three miles away despite me having Clouding Swarm active!
GG, ZOS!
(ò_ó)p
Are we supposed to only play as Nightblades now?
Are there any plans to actually balance this game at some point? Or make it work, as in, fix the bugs? Any information on the matter would be appreciated.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]
Sigh!
I could list the multitude of mechanics that competent players are using right now to counter and defeat Nightblades but it is up to you you to learn what they are and how to use them. Besides most that make posts like these are not really looking to learn but rather to get ZoS to make a knee jerk reaction to weaken one class to the benefit of their class.
So I'll just leave you this tidbit .....L2P
L2P !? lol !
First, NB is the only class that can be countered only by specific builds and pots, second i guess you don't play other classes and/or you are dishonest. Watch the leaderboards as i said before, watch the top guilds compositions, watch the switch of former good templars and dk, they are all NBs now. Guess why ?
willymchilybily wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »nightblade class and nightblade skills [Stamina] allways has been and still is the weakest of all the classes. we recently had some help but we are still lowest in damage output and survivability.
the magicka nightblade tho is and might be whaat your refering to? they have allways been high in damage and survive longer.
Um WHAT? lets review
Sorcs: only have bound armor, its not even an offensive ability its a buff.
DKs have 2 dots. burning breath which debuffs, and unstable flame. nice dots but both be purge and cloaked to remove
Templar has some good stamina morphs. Biting jabs is notably good critical self buff, knock back damage spam. binding javelin a CC with okay damage/range. Dont know how effective power of the light is for pvp.
Now Nighblade:
Ambush- gap closer that can gap close at any range (not aware of any other gap closer that can do this!), immobilizes target for 1 second, making it a great pvp gap closer. and buffs your next attack by 20% via empowered! and it can work to gap close even if the enemy is on a cliff, as it teleports you and so isn't restricted by needing a clear path to the enemy! oh and only stamina class gap closer in game.
Surprise attack- instant cast short animation damage spam, that debuffs the targets armor. if done from stealth/cloak it also cc's the target. and i believe it is more dps than biting jabs? Ergo the strongest class stamina DPS spam skill in game.
Killers blade: an execute. of course most wont use it because they use 2 hander and streamers state executioner or spamming more surprise attack is comparable damage at that point. but this is not so true vs a vampire say in 2.1 and when you include its an assassin ability so through passives boosts your critical chance as well as health regen (though tiny)on kill. its the only stamina class execute in game
Power extraction; okay its naff as you get the buffs from other sources like rally or flying blade, and if you want a stamina AOE you use bow or DW.
I salute ZOS for creating the most OP class of all times in any game! With the new, silly PvP settings, they have a burst that can actually kill, unlike any other class. They utilize the also completely overpowered two-hander like no other class, and if everything else fails, they can bail out at will with their ridiculous invisibility. I especially love how teleport jump can hit me from three miles away despite me having Clouding Swarm active!
GG, ZOS!
(ò_ó)p
Are we supposed to only play as Nightblades now?
Are there any plans to actually balance this game at some point? Or make it work, as in, fix the bugs? Any information on the matter would be appreciated.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]
contact.opiumb16_ESO wrote: »I salute ZOS for creating the most OP class of all times in any game! With the new, silly PvP settings, they have a burst that can actually kill, unlike any other class. They utilize the also completely overpowered two-hander like no other class, and if everything else fails, they can bail out at will with their ridiculous invisibility. I especially love how teleport jump can hit me from three miles away despite me having Clouding Swarm active!
GG, ZOS!
(ò_ó)p
Are we supposed to only play as Nightblades now?
Are there any plans to actually balance this game at some point? Or make it work, as in, fix the bugs? Any information on the matter would be appreciated.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]
Sigh!
I could list the multitude of mechanics that competent players are using right now to counter and defeat Nightblades but it is up to you you to learn what they are and how to use them. Besides most that make posts like these are not really looking to learn but rather to get ZoS to make a knee jerk reaction to weaken one class to the benefit of their class.
So I'll just leave you this tidbit .....L2P
L2P !? lol !
First, NB is the only class that can be countered only by specific builds and pots, second i guess you don't play other classes and/or you are dishonest. Watch the leaderboards as i said before, watch the top guilds compositions, watch the switch of former good templars and dk, they are all NBs now. Guess why ?
Night blades aren't OP. they are just incredibly annoying.
I absolutely think cloak needs a huge nerf. No player of any classes should just be able to decide they don't want to die and so it with a single button. It takes no skill at all to just cloak and run.
It needs nerfed badly. Cloak should increase in cost 200% with each consecutive cast. Absolutely. If you want to try to noob out of a fight, it should cost you dearly in magicka to do it. Why you would handicap roll dodge and not cloak is beyond me.
a.skelton92 wrote: »You can tell 90% of the ESO community are fresh off the latest FPS and or Runescape. Has no one here EVER played any other MMO? There is always a rogue class and said class always has the ability to vanish when the going gets tough.. Its like when you get those people that say "mages are cowards" because they apparently "run away" in a fight (kiting).. Certain classes play this way or have certain spells because if they stood toe to toe with you; you would probably tear them a new ass.
TequilaFire wrote: »Good thing I have one of each class as they are slowly eliminated into oblivion.
Wonder which will be the last one standing, probably Harry Potter.
Now if I could only transfer him to EP! lmao
TequilaFire wrote: »I play EP on PS4 because AD is overpopulated and I wanted a challenge.
For some reason DC seems to be AD's lapdog at least on Haderus PS4.
Enjoy flipping the map on Haderus even if just a few hours. lol
TequilaFire wrote: »I play EP on PS4 because AD is overpopulated and I wanted a challenge.
For some reason DC seems to be AD's lapdog at least on Haderus PS4.
Enjoy flipping the map on Haderus even if just a few hours. lol
dwemer_paleologist wrote: »nightblade class and nightblade skills [Stamina] allways has been and still is the weakest of all the classes. we recently had some help but we are still lowest in damage output and survivability.
the magicka nightblade tho is and might be whaat your refering to? they have allways been high in damage and survive longer.
bowmanz607 wrote: »Here we go again. Someone who can't kill a nb so they cry about it. Plenty of things counter cloack. Also, nb are suppose to have high burst and be stealthy. N95 to mention, they have high burst and cloack because of a lack of a self heal. That is the whole 0oint if the class.and let's be honest here. The most devastating burst damage out there is a magicka sorc. This is also the most balanced classes have been since 1.5.
bowmanz607 wrote: »Here we go again. Someone who can't kill a nb so they cry about it. Plenty of things counter cloack. Also, nb are suppose to have high burst and be stealthy. N95 to mention, they have high burst and cloack because of a lack of a self heal. That is the whole 0oint if the class.and let's be honest here. The most devastating burst damage out there is a magicka sorc. This is also the most balanced classes have been since 1.5.
If I'm dual wielding/bow for example the only heals available to me are heals over time. If I stood there and ate the damage it would completely negate all my healing lol xD
bowmanz607 wrote: »Here we go again. Someone who can't kill a nb so they cry about it. Plenty of things counter cloack. Also, nb are suppose to have high burst and be stealthy. N95 to mention, they have high burst and cloack because of a lack of a self heal. That is the whole 0oint if the class.and let's be honest here. The most devastating burst damage out there is a magicka sorc. This is also the most balanced classes have been since 1.5.
TheNephilimCrow wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »Here we go again. Someone who can't kill a nb so they cry about it. Plenty of things counter cloack. Also, nb are suppose to have high burst and be stealthy. N95 to mention, they have high burst and cloack because of a lack of a self heal. That is the whole 0oint if the class.and let's be honest here. The most devastating burst damage out there is a magicka sorc. This is also the most balanced classes have been since 1.5.
That's what I've said in plenty of these threads. People see cloak as OP because you can go invisible, but you take cloak away, we have nothing to defend ourselves. No heals besides Funnel or Swallow and that's basically nothing in comparision to other heals. NB's have to rely either on Cloaking and H.Pot or grinding Alliance War to get Vigor. The class has no self heals. If it did and had Cloak then I can agree with it being OP, because being able to cloak and use another class skill, like Rush Ceremony or Dragon's Blood or even Dark Exchange would be unfair. But, we are forced to use skills in public trees to even heal up effectively.
TheNephilimCrow wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »Here we go again. Someone who can't kill a nb so they cry about it. Plenty of things counter cloack. Also, nb are suppose to have high burst and be stealthy. N95 to mention, they have high burst and cloack because of a lack of a self heal. That is the whole 0oint if the class.and let's be honest here. The most devastating burst damage out there is a magicka sorc. This is also the most balanced classes have been since 1.5.
That's what I've said in plenty of these threads. People see cloak as OP because you can go invisible, but you take cloak away, we have nothing to defend ourselves. No heals besides Funnel or Swallow and that's basically nothing in comparision to other heals. NB's have to rely either on Cloaking and H.Pot or grinding Alliance War to get Vigor. The class has no self heals. If it did and had Cloak then I can agree with it being OP, because being able to cloak and use another class skill, like Rush Ceremony or Dragon's Blood or even Dark Exchange would be unfair. But, we are forced to use skills in public trees to even heal up effectively.
Yeah more HoT's. On magblade I can use healing ward but if I don't cloak and allow it to expire it's removed faster than I can click my fingers lmao.
TheNephilimCrow wrote: »TheNephilimCrow wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »Here we go again. Someone who can't kill a nb so they cry about it. Plenty of things counter cloack. Also, nb are suppose to have high burst and be stealthy. N95 to mention, they have high burst and cloack because of a lack of a self heal. That is the whole 0oint if the class.and let's be honest here. The most devastating burst damage out there is a magicka sorc. This is also the most balanced classes have been since 1.5.
That's what I've said in plenty of these threads. People see cloak as OP because you can go invisible, but you take cloak away, we have nothing to defend ourselves. No heals besides Funnel or Swallow and that's basically nothing in comparision to other heals. NB's have to rely either on Cloaking and H.Pot or grinding Alliance War to get Vigor. The class has no self heals. If it did and had Cloak then I can agree with it being OP, because being able to cloak and use another class skill, like Rush Ceremony or Dragon's Blood or even Dark Exchange would be unfair. But, we are forced to use skills in public trees to even heal up effectively.
Yeah more HoT's. On magblade I can use healing ward but if I don't cloak and allow it to expire it's removed faster than I can click my fingers lmao.
I would even be okay with having Mag Recovery decrease while in cloak if it boosted my Health recovery in cloak. At least then my health would return faster. Idk.