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Nightblades... Ridiculous!

  • contact.opiumb16_ESO
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    nightblade class and nightblade skills [Stamina] allways has been and still is the weakest of all the classes. we recently had some help but we are still lowest in damage output and survivability.
    the magicka nightblade tho is and might be whaat your refering to? they have allways been high in damage and survive longer.

    Omg thx dude i loled so hard ! :)

    Just watch the leaderboard in EU server :
    45% top players are NB, 45% are sorcerers, other 10% is temp and dk. You just can't avoid facts bro'.

    In cyro a well known guild leading the board is 100% composed of NB and sorcerers, no other classes... maybe because they are so skilled that they want to play "the weakest of all the classes". C'mon !

    i clearly said that [magicka nightblades] were not what i was refering to.
    i was refeing to b]Stamin Nightblades[/b
    please fully read my comment.

    And i tell you that stam and magicka are as op one and another
  • Sureshawt
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    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    I salute ZOS for creating the most OP class of all times in any game! With the new, silly PvP settings, they have a burst that can actually kill, unlike any other class. They utilize the also completely overpowered two-hander like no other class, and if everything else fails, they can bail out at will with their ridiculous invisibility. I especially love how teleport jump can hit me from three miles away despite me having Clouding Swarm active!
    GG, ZOS!
    (ò_ó)p

    Are we supposed to only play as Nightblades now?

    Are there any plans to actually balance this game at some point? Or make it work, as in, fix the bugs? Any information on the matter would be appreciated.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]

    Sigh!

    I could list the multitude of mechanics that competent players are using right now to counter and defeat Nightblades but it is up to you you to learn what they are and how to use them. Besides most that make posts like these are not really looking to learn but rather to get ZoS to make a knee jerk reaction to weaken one class to the benefit of their class.

    So I'll just leave you this tidbit .....L2P
    Edited by Sureshawt on October 7, 2015 4:57PM
  • contact.opiumb16_ESO
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    Sureshawt wrote: »
    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    I salute ZOS for creating the most OP class of all times in any game! With the new, silly PvP settings, they have a burst that can actually kill, unlike any other class. They utilize the also completely overpowered two-hander like no other class, and if everything else fails, they can bail out at will with their ridiculous invisibility. I especially love how teleport jump can hit me from three miles away despite me having Clouding Swarm active!
    GG, ZOS!
    (ò_ó)p

    Are we supposed to only play as Nightblades now?

    Are there any plans to actually balance this game at some point? Or make it work, as in, fix the bugs? Any information on the matter would be appreciated.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]

    Sigh!

    I could list the multitude of mechanics that competent players are using right now to counter and defeat Nightblades but it is up to you you to learn what they are and how to use them. Besides most that make posts like these are not really looking to learn but rather to get ZoS to make a knee jerk reaction to weaken one class to the benefit of their class.

    So I'll just leave you this tidbit .....L2P

    L2P !? lol !

    First, NB is the only class that can be countered only by specific builds and pots, second i guess you don't play other classes and/or you are dishonest. Watch the leaderboards as i said before, watch the top guilds compositions, watch the switch of former good templars and dk, they are all NBs now. Guess why ?
  • Sureshawt
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    Sureshawt wrote: »
    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    I salute ZOS for creating the most OP class of all times in any game! With the new, silly PvP settings, they have a burst that can actually kill, unlike any other class. They utilize the also completely overpowered two-hander like no other class, and if everything else fails, they can bail out at will with their ridiculous invisibility. I especially love how teleport jump can hit me from three miles away despite me having Clouding Swarm active!
    GG, ZOS!
    (ò_ó)p

    Are we supposed to only play as Nightblades now?

    Are there any plans to actually balance this game at some point? Or make it work, as in, fix the bugs? Any information on the matter would be appreciated.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]

    Sigh!

    I could list the multitude of mechanics that competent players are using right now to counter and defeat Nightblades but it is up to you you to learn what they are and how to use them. Besides most that make posts like these are not really looking to learn but rather to get ZoS to make a knee jerk reaction to weaken one class to the benefit of their class.

    So I'll just leave you this tidbit .....L2P

    L2P !? lol !

    First, NB is the only class that can be countered only by specific builds and pots, second i guess you don't play other classes and/or you are dishonest. Watch the leaderboards as i said before, watch the top guilds compositions, watch the switch of former good templars and dk, they are all NBs now. Guess why ?

    None of the following are class specific:

    Does any other class have a skill they are dependent on for survival countered by a single pot?

    Does any other class have a skill they are dependent on for survival countered by a single AoE (or worse yet one with that includes a snare)?

    Does any other class have a skill they are dependent on for survival countered by a toggled ability that can always be on?

    As for your leaderboard comment. Most of these types are FOTM players and given the nerfs to DKs and Templars their migration to what they see as next best is natural. Very few Sorcs moved to NBs. Guess why?

    Disclosure: I play a Templar(Stamina) and an Nightblade(Magic). I switched from Templar to Nightblade as my main because so many skills were bugged out/useless that hardly anything on my bar was from the Templar class. My Nightblade is just the opposite and has better escape options as I refuse to go vamp on my Templar.


    Edited by Sureshawt on October 7, 2015 5:30PM
  • ku5h
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    If Nb is OP, then Sorc is a GOD >:)
  • zornyan
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    nightblade class and nightblade skills [Stamina] allways has been and still is the weakest of all the classes. we recently had some help but we are still lowest in damage output and survivability.
    the magicka nightblade tho is and might be whaat your refering to? they have allways been high in damage and survive longer.

    Um WHAT? lets review

    Sorcs: only have bound armor, its not even an offensive ability its a buff.

    DKs have 2 dots. burning breath which debuffs, and unstable flame. nice dots but both be purge and cloaked to remove

    Templar has some good stamina morphs. Biting jabs is notably good critical self buff, knock back damage spam. binding javelin a CC with okay damage/range. Dont know how effective power of the light is for pvp.

    Now Nighblade:
    Ambush- gap closer that can gap close at any range (not aware of any other gap closer that can do this!), immobilizes target for 1 second, making it a great pvp gap closer. and buffs your next attack by 20% via empowered! and it can work to gap close even if the enemy is on a cliff, as it teleports you and so isn't restricted by needing a clear path to the enemy! oh and only stamina class gap closer in game.

    Surprise attack- instant cast short animation damage spam, that debuffs the targets armor. if done from stealth/cloak it also cc's the target. and i believe it is more dps than biting jabs? Ergo the strongest class stamina DPS spam skill in game.

    Killers blade: an execute. of course most wont use it because they use 2 hander and streamers state executioner or spamming more surprise attack is comparable damage at that point. but this is not so true vs a vampire say in 2.1 and when you include its an assassin ability so through passives boosts your critical chance as well as health regen (though tiny)on kill. its the only stamina class execute in game

    Power extraction; okay its naff as you get the buffs from other sources like rally or flying blade, and if you want a stamina AOE you use bow or DW.


    Just to quote something here, biting jabs is actually the hardest hitting single target dps move in update 7, not only because it hits hard, but it also procs the templar passive burning light at 25% chance which then puts it's dps over surprise attack. Plus the knock back and major savagery buff ofc.
  • Nikkiy
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    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    I salute ZOS for creating the most OP class of all times in any game! With the new, silly PvP settings, they have a burst that can actually kill, unlike any other class. They utilize the also completely overpowered two-hander like no other class, and if everything else fails, they can bail out at will with their ridiculous invisibility. I especially love how teleport jump can hit me from three miles away despite me having Clouding Swarm active!
    GG, ZOS!
    (ò_ó)p

    Are we supposed to only play as Nightblades now?

    Are there any plans to actually balance this game at some point? Or make it work, as in, fix the bugs? Any information on the matter would be appreciated.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]

    L2P ALL THE WAY :D
  • puffy99
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    yeah the cloak is *** for sure..
    only hope is get them in talons and keep the talons popping, but if they choose to disengage you can't do anything about it.
  • essenCe
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    Night blades aren't OP. they are just incredibly annoying.

    I absolutely think cloak needs a huge nerf. No player of any classes should just be able to decide they don't want to die and so it with a single button. It takes no skill at all to just cloak and run.

    It needs nerfed badly. Cloak should increase in cost 200% with each consecutive cast. Absolutely. If you want to try to noob out of a fight, it should cost you dearly in magicka to do it. Why you would handicap roll dodge and not cloak is beyond me.
  • 13igTyme
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    Sureshawt wrote: »
    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    I salute ZOS for creating the most OP class of all times in any game! With the new, silly PvP settings, they have a burst that can actually kill, unlike any other class. They utilize the also completely overpowered two-hander like no other class, and if everything else fails, they can bail out at will with their ridiculous invisibility. I especially love how teleport jump can hit me from three miles away despite me having Clouding Swarm active!
    GG, ZOS!
    (ò_ó)p

    Are we supposed to only play as Nightblades now?

    Are there any plans to actually balance this game at some point? Or make it work, as in, fix the bugs? Any information on the matter would be appreciated.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]

    Sigh!

    I could list the multitude of mechanics that competent players are using right now to counter and defeat Nightblades but it is up to you you to learn what they are and how to use them. Besides most that make posts like these are not really looking to learn but rather to get ZoS to make a knee jerk reaction to weaken one class to the benefit of their class.

    So I'll just leave you this tidbit .....L2P

    L2P !? lol !

    First, NB is the only class that can be countered only by specific builds and pots, second i guess you don't play other classes and/or you are dishonest. Watch the leaderboards as i said before, watch the top guilds compositions, watch the switch of former good templars and dk, they are all NBs now. Guess why ?

    Sorcs needs a full set to counter. Case closed.
    PS4 | NA | l3igTyme

    Thinking about coming back to play...
  • Master_Kas
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    Most op ever? You didn't play in the old dkroflbatsbatsbats patches I take it?

    Even the best stamina nbs cant take on groups of bad players like Those dks did. XD

    (This is not the case now just sayin, don't write most op ever when you have no clue).
    EU | PC
  • revonine
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    Guys seriously. Use one of the counters to stealth and cloak and a nightblade especially a magicka one is rendered helpless and dead thanks to no class shields and innate heals. Two half decent players focusing a NB unable to cloak means he/she is dead.

    Unless that NB is really good with Shadow Image use, but that comes down to the skills of the PLAYER not the class.
  • alt3rEgo
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    I had a Magicka Nightblade before it was cool. :smiley::wink:
  • Heathenpride
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    essenCe wrote: »
    Night blades aren't OP. they are just incredibly annoying.

    I absolutely think cloak needs a huge nerf. No player of any classes should just be able to decide they don't want to die and so it with a single button. It takes no skill at all to just cloak and run.

    It needs nerfed badly. Cloak should increase in cost 200% with each consecutive cast. Absolutely. If you want to try to noob out of a fight, it should cost you dearly in magicka to do it. Why you would handicap roll dodge and not cloak is beyond me.

    Why on earth would you nerf something that EVERYONE IN THE GAME can counter by drinking a potion? And that's just ONE way, and the easiest at that, of countering it.

    Seriously?

    You don't even need to make the pots yourself, just ask someone else to make them for you and throw a few reagents at them for their trouble.

    Bloody hell man, stop being lazy.
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  • a.skelton92
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    You can tell 90% of the ESO community are fresh off the latest FPS and or Runescape. Has no one here EVER played any other MMO? There is always a rogue class and said class always has the ability to vanish when the going gets tough.. Its like when you get those people that say "mages are cowards" because they apparently "run away" in a fight (kiting).. Certain classes play this way or have certain spells because if they stood toe to toe with you; you would probably tear them a new ass.
  • revonine
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    You can tell 90% of the ESO community are fresh off the latest FPS and or Runescape. Has no one here EVER played any other MMO? There is always a rogue class and said class always has the ability to vanish when the going gets tough.. Its like when you get those people that say "mages are cowards" because they apparently "run away" in a fight (kiting).. Certain classes play this way or have certain spells because if they stood toe to toe with you; you would probably tear them a new ass.

    Exactly. Try going toe to toe without cloak with a stamina DK, Magicka Sorc or even a well built stamina sorc and see how long a NB would last :/
    Edited by revonine on October 8, 2015 2:29PM
  • TheNephilimCrow
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    All I get from these nerf threads are "I'm not good enough to take out the squishy little assassin."

    Like, seriously, if people have a hard time against Nightblades, they need to look at their build and move things around. The whole point of PvP is to be adaptable to any situation. It's why we have "builds" in the first place, is it not? Nightblades are not overpowered by any standard.

    Some of the points you made is the use of the weapons used, so if anything they would need to nerf those weapons, as they are available to everyone. Like Wrecking Blow being spammed.

    Instead of people whining about a certain class, they should just adapt. Adapt and survive.

    I'm pretty good with my NB, not the best by any means, but I've been able to stand toe-to-toe with VR's higher then me and not have to worry. I don't always win, but its always a good fight. Though, there are people who completely walk over me. As pitiful as I am to say this, but even some Non-VRs have taken me out because they have such an unbelieveable combo they use.

    For example, there was this level 32 Destruction Staff DK that, despite my best efforts, just melted my healthbar with his CC/HA/Clench combo he was doing. He was wearing the new costume, not sure, but Soul Shriven? It was like fighting the freaking devil. He kept roaring like a demon. *Shivers*

    But even still, 10 out of 10 would fight'em again.

    So, there is verbal proof that its not the Class, its the player.
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    |:Veteran Rank:|
    VR16 - AD Breton - S&S/Bow Werewolf Stamina Nightblade - Title "Savage Shadow"
    VR 1 - AD Altmer - DW/Resto Magicka Sorcerer - Title "Spellsword"

    |:Non-Veteran:|
    LVL 45 - DC Bosmer - Jack of Trades (Master Provisioning, Blacksmithing, etc.)
    Lvl 22 - AD Breton - Templar - Hybrid Build - PvE - Title "The Holy Knight"
    LVL 21 - AD Imperial - Dragonknight - Tank Build (In Progress)- Title "The Copper Knight"
    Lvl 13 - AD Khajit - DW Magicka Nightblade - Title "Mystical Thief"


  • TequilaFire
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    Good thing I have one of each class as they are slowly eliminated into oblivion.
    Wonder which will be the last one standing, probably Harry Potter.
    Now if I could only transfer him to EP! lmao
  • TheNephilimCrow
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    Good thing I have one of each class as they are slowly eliminated into oblivion.
    Wonder which will be the last one standing, probably Harry Potter.
    Now if I could only transfer him to EP! lmao

    Get out.














    ...JK, you can stay.
    PSN, Youtube & Twitch: TheNephilimCrow
    [NA] ESO EP Guild (GM): The Order of Crows (PvE) - 300+ Members (Discontinued)
    [NA] ESO AD Guild (GM): The Blades of Ayrenn (PvP) - 45 Members (Actively Recruiting)

    |:Veteran Rank:|
    VR16 - AD Breton - S&S/Bow Werewolf Stamina Nightblade - Title "Savage Shadow"
    VR 1 - AD Altmer - DW/Resto Magicka Sorcerer - Title "Spellsword"

    |:Non-Veteran:|
    LVL 45 - DC Bosmer - Jack of Trades (Master Provisioning, Blacksmithing, etc.)
    Lvl 22 - AD Breton - Templar - Hybrid Build - PvE - Title "The Holy Knight"
    LVL 21 - AD Imperial - Dragonknight - Tank Build (In Progress)- Title "The Copper Knight"
    Lvl 13 - AD Khajit - DW Magicka Nightblade - Title "Mystical Thief"


  • TequilaFire
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    I play EP on PS4 because AD is overpopulated and I wanted a challenge.
    For some reason DC seems to be AD's lapdog at least on Haderus PS4.

    Enjoy flipping the map on Haderus even if just a few hours. lol
  • TheNephilimCrow
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    I play EP on PS4 because AD is overpopulated and I wanted a challenge.
    For some reason DC seems to be AD's lapdog at least on Haderus PS4.

    Enjoy flipping the map on Haderus even if just a few hours. lol

    Azura's Star is such a power struggle. It's like each alliance takes turns being top dog. xD I love the fights though.
    PSN, Youtube & Twitch: TheNephilimCrow
    [NA] ESO EP Guild (GM): The Order of Crows (PvE) - 300+ Members (Discontinued)
    [NA] ESO AD Guild (GM): The Blades of Ayrenn (PvP) - 45 Members (Actively Recruiting)

    |:Veteran Rank:|
    VR16 - AD Breton - S&S/Bow Werewolf Stamina Nightblade - Title "Savage Shadow"
    VR 1 - AD Altmer - DW/Resto Magicka Sorcerer - Title "Spellsword"

    |:Non-Veteran:|
    LVL 45 - DC Bosmer - Jack of Trades (Master Provisioning, Blacksmithing, etc.)
    Lvl 22 - AD Breton - Templar - Hybrid Build - PvE - Title "The Holy Knight"
    LVL 21 - AD Imperial - Dragonknight - Tank Build (In Progress)- Title "The Copper Knight"
    Lvl 13 - AD Khajit - DW Magicka Nightblade - Title "Mystical Thief"


  • coolermh
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    I play EP on PS4 because AD is overpopulated and I wanted a challenge.
    For some reason DC seems to be AD's lapdog at least on Haderus PS4.

    Enjoy flipping the map on Haderus even if just a few hours. lol

    ...LOL
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    Magika Sorc AD
    Stamina NB AD
    Stam DK AD
    Magika NB-
    Magika Temp-
    Stam Warden
    Stam Sorc
    Mag Warden
  • Orchish
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    nightblade class and nightblade skills [Stamina] allways has been and still is the weakest of all the classes. we recently had some help but we are still lowest in damage output and survivability.
    the magicka nightblade tho is and might be whaat your refering to? they have allways been high in damage and survive longer.

    Are you being serious here? Stamina Nightblade is one of the best in PvP. I even ditched my Stamina DK which i've played since beta for it. Since my Stamina DK isn't really a DK when i only have 2-3 class abilities i am using.

    How can you say stam NB has the lowest survivability? It has one of the best. Survivability isn't just about how much damage you can take, it's about being able to get out alive when you get your self into tricky situations. This is where the NB and Sorc shine and the Templar and DK get left behind since both classes are pretty much forced to stand their ground.
  • bowmanz607
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    Here we go again. Someone who can't kill a nb so they cry about it. Plenty of things counter cloack. Also, nb are suppose to have high burst and be stealthy. N95 to mention, they have high burst and cloack because of a lack of a self heal. That is the whole 0oint if the class.and let's be honest here. The most devastating burst damage out there is a magicka sorc. This is also the most balanced classes have been since 1.5.
  • revonine
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    bowmanz607 wrote: »
    Here we go again. Someone who can't kill a nb so they cry about it. Plenty of things counter cloack. Also, nb are suppose to have high burst and be stealthy. N95 to mention, they have high burst and cloack because of a lack of a self heal. That is the whole 0oint if the class.and let's be honest here. The most devastating burst damage out there is a magicka sorc. This is also the most balanced classes have been since 1.5.

    If I'm dual wielding/bow for example the only heals available to me are heals over time. If I stood there and ate the damage it would completely negate all my healing lol xD
  • bowmanz607
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    revonine wrote: »
    bowmanz607 wrote: »
    Here we go again. Someone who can't kill a nb so they cry about it. Plenty of things counter cloack. Also, nb are suppose to have high burst and be stealthy. N95 to mention, they have high burst and cloack because of a lack of a self heal. That is the whole 0oint if the class.and let's be honest here. The most devastating burst damage out there is a magicka sorc. This is also the most balanced classes have been since 1.5.

    If I'm dual wielding/bow for example the only heals available to me are heals over time. If I stood there and ate the damage it would completely negate all my healing lol xD

    Yup that's what I run. All I have is vigor. Could us blood craze but not worth giving uo my other skills.
  • TheNephilimCrow
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    bowmanz607 wrote: »
    Here we go again. Someone who can't kill a nb so they cry about it. Plenty of things counter cloack. Also, nb are suppose to have high burst and be stealthy. N95 to mention, they have high burst and cloack because of a lack of a self heal. That is the whole 0oint if the class.and let's be honest here. The most devastating burst damage out there is a magicka sorc. This is also the most balanced classes have been since 1.5.

    That's what I've said in plenty of these threads. People see cloak as OP because you can go invisible, but you take cloak away, we have nothing to defend ourselves. No heals besides Funnel or Swallow and that's basically nothing in comparision to other heals. NB's have to rely either on Cloaking and H.Pot or grinding Alliance War to get Vigor. The class has no self heals. If it did and had Cloak then I can agree with it being OP, because being able to cloak and use another class skill, like Rush Ceremony or Dragon's Blood or even Dark Exchange would be unfair. But, we are forced to use skills in public trees to even heal up effectively.
    PSN, Youtube & Twitch: TheNephilimCrow
    [NA] ESO EP Guild (GM): The Order of Crows (PvE) - 300+ Members (Discontinued)
    [NA] ESO AD Guild (GM): The Blades of Ayrenn (PvP) - 45 Members (Actively Recruiting)

    |:Veteran Rank:|
    VR16 - AD Breton - S&S/Bow Werewolf Stamina Nightblade - Title "Savage Shadow"
    VR 1 - AD Altmer - DW/Resto Magicka Sorcerer - Title "Spellsword"

    |:Non-Veteran:|
    LVL 45 - DC Bosmer - Jack of Trades (Master Provisioning, Blacksmithing, etc.)
    Lvl 22 - AD Breton - Templar - Hybrid Build - PvE - Title "The Holy Knight"
    LVL 21 - AD Imperial - Dragonknight - Tank Build (In Progress)- Title "The Copper Knight"
    Lvl 13 - AD Khajit - DW Magicka Nightblade - Title "Mystical Thief"


  • revonine
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    bowmanz607 wrote: »
    Here we go again. Someone who can't kill a nb so they cry about it. Plenty of things counter cloack. Also, nb are suppose to have high burst and be stealthy. N95 to mention, they have high burst and cloack because of a lack of a self heal. That is the whole 0oint if the class.and let's be honest here. The most devastating burst damage out there is a magicka sorc. This is also the most balanced classes have been since 1.5.

    That's what I've said in plenty of these threads. People see cloak as OP because you can go invisible, but you take cloak away, we have nothing to defend ourselves. No heals besides Funnel or Swallow and that's basically nothing in comparision to other heals. NB's have to rely either on Cloaking and H.Pot or grinding Alliance War to get Vigor. The class has no self heals. If it did and had Cloak then I can agree with it being OP, because being able to cloak and use another class skill, like Rush Ceremony or Dragon's Blood or even Dark Exchange would be unfair. But, we are forced to use skills in public trees to even heal up effectively.

    Yeah more HoT's. On magblade I can use healing ward but if I don't cloak and allow it to expire it's removed faster than I can click my fingers lmao.
  • TheNephilimCrow
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    revonine wrote: »
    bowmanz607 wrote: »
    Here we go again. Someone who can't kill a nb so they cry about it. Plenty of things counter cloack. Also, nb are suppose to have high burst and be stealthy. N95 to mention, they have high burst and cloack because of a lack of a self heal. That is the whole 0oint if the class.and let's be honest here. The most devastating burst damage out there is a magicka sorc. This is also the most balanced classes have been since 1.5.

    That's what I've said in plenty of these threads. People see cloak as OP because you can go invisible, but you take cloak away, we have nothing to defend ourselves. No heals besides Funnel or Swallow and that's basically nothing in comparision to other heals. NB's have to rely either on Cloaking and H.Pot or grinding Alliance War to get Vigor. The class has no self heals. If it did and had Cloak then I can agree with it being OP, because being able to cloak and use another class skill, like Rush Ceremony or Dragon's Blood or even Dark Exchange would be unfair. But, we are forced to use skills in public trees to even heal up effectively.

    Yeah more HoT's. On magblade I can use healing ward but if I don't cloak and allow it to expire it's removed faster than I can click my fingers lmao.

    I would even be okay with having Mag Recovery decrease while in cloak if it boosted my Health recovery in cloak. At least then my health would return faster. Idk.

    Edit: Or even no mag recovery, which will pull us out faster, but at least we could get healed.
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    revonine wrote: »
    bowmanz607 wrote: »
    Here we go again. Someone who can't kill a nb so they cry about it. Plenty of things counter cloack. Also, nb are suppose to have high burst and be stealthy. N95 to mention, they have high burst and cloack because of a lack of a self heal. That is the whole 0oint if the class.and let's be honest here. The most devastating burst damage out there is a magicka sorc. This is also the most balanced classes have been since 1.5.

    That's what I've said in plenty of these threads. People see cloak as OP because you can go invisible, but you take cloak away, we have nothing to defend ourselves. No heals besides Funnel or Swallow and that's basically nothing in comparision to other heals. NB's have to rely either on Cloaking and H.Pot or grinding Alliance War to get Vigor. The class has no self heals. If it did and had Cloak then I can agree with it being OP, because being able to cloak and use another class skill, like Rush Ceremony or Dragon's Blood or even Dark Exchange would be unfair. But, we are forced to use skills in public trees to even heal up effectively.

    Yeah more HoT's. On magblade I can use healing ward but if I don't cloak and allow it to expire it's removed faster than I can click my fingers lmao.

    I would even be okay with having Mag Recovery decrease while in cloak if it boosted my Health recovery in cloak. At least then my health would return faster. Idk.

    ooh that is interesting actually. I'd rather they stop nerfing stuff but if worst comes to worst I could get behind this if the health recovery was decent.
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