@Fat-Larry-Makes-All So because it's not worth implementing the option for you then everyone else should do without?

Lots of people use keyboards on their consoles, probably more than you realise, Have you polled the entire PS4 community to find out the percentage whom would find it useful or is your summation of it being "worthless" just pure speculation on your part Watson?

I fail to see why a minority are so against text chat for consoles, it was originally in the port over but switched off for reasons unknown, the code is most likely still in there, Having the option for an extra form of communication is not a bad thing, it's actually beneficial.

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

@Fat-Larry-Makes-All So because it's not worth implementing the option for you then everyone else should do without?

Lots of people use keyboards on their consoles, probably more than you realise, Have you polled the entire PS4 community to find out the percentage whom would find it useful or is your summation of it being "worthless" just pure speculation on your part Watson?

I fail to see why a minority are so against text chat for consoles, it was originally in the port over but switched off for reasons unknown, the code is most likely still in there, Having the option for an extra form of communication is not a bad thing, it's actually beneficial.

You are putting words in my mouth, what I said was that it's about a "relatively small group" that needs textchat because they have too much guild interaction for a mic. That's the only group that could benefit from text chat in my opinion and yeay, that's a relatively small group.

Another incorrect assumption on your part is that I am "against" text chat. I'm not. I just don't think it's neccessary.

Stop acting like this is some sort of battle where you can win or lose, and try to be constructive ok?

Not consructive...

Fat-Larry-Makes-All wrote: »

Or, you could just buy a mic and stop being so insecure about how you sound to other people...? Text chat on consoles is worthless, takes way too long to type out sentences. I can text type pretty fast on PS thanks to gran turismo 5, but still, way too slow.

Constructive...

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

@Fat-Larry-Makes-All... You can plug a USB keyboard into a PS4.

Not consructive...

Fat-Larry-Makes-All wrote: »

No *** Sherlock. Very few people do that however because you don't want a keyboard laying around your living room. Even if you had one, you'd still be waiting decades for a reply because the other guy is fiddling with text input via DS3.

The 5*500 guild members is an argument I had not considered, for this group text chat is probably convenient. Still, it's a relatively small group and "on the streets" text chat is worthless.

So I keep to my point, text chat is not worth implementing.

Constructive...

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

@Fat-Larry-Makes-All So because it's not worth implementing the option for you then everyone else should do without?

Lots of people use keyboards on their consoles, probably more than you realise, Have you polled the entire PS4 community to find out the percentage whom would find it useful or is your summation of it being "worthless" just pure speculation on your part Watson?

I fail to see why a minority are so against text chat for consoles, it was originally in the port over but switched off for reasons unknown, the code is most likely still in there, Having the option for an extra form of communication is not a bad thing, it's actually beneficial.

Constructive...
I wasn't aware of any "battle" I simply informed that you could use a keyboard in case you were unaware, I didn't look to be insulted by your "no *** sherlock" remark and simply questioned whether you'd asked those you seemed to be alluding to speak on behalf of their thoughts on the matter and gave my own personal opinion that an extra form communication would be beneficial.

Perhaps you should look at posts (including your own) in a different light, the forums are not a "battle" ground where you need to insult or belittle people for having a different opinion but it does sometimes happen whether intended or not, don't take it all so seriously.

Brrrofski wrote: »

Something everyone had overlooked.

Console players, on average, use communication for abusing others.

I don't want to see non stop test scrolling with people arguing.

I think they'd probably give the ability to turn it on and off if they did ever implement it, happy to say I don't meet many players like that in ESO so I'd probably leave mine on most of the time.

Its not cool that PC gets controller support and we are still left with nothing. Its not that hard to plug in a USB keyboard n type stuff out, game would be alot easier an better if text chat were around

Yes we do NEED a chat box and quickly please ZOS.

RP is impossible.

Guilds are pointless without one IMO.

Getting groups together is a joke at the moment and near impossible at most times.

Cyrodiil is no where near as fun or organized as on the pc, infact its awful in comparison.

I could go on but I think these are more than reason enough tbh, we NEED one, I mean c'mon.

Why do idiots keep posting "we have to read spam" *** turn it off

Fat-Larry-Makes-All wrote: »

Or, you could just buy a mic and stop being so insecure about how you sound to other people...? Text chat on consoles is worthless, takes way too long to type out sentences. I can text type pretty fast on PS thanks to gran turismo 5, but still, way too slow.

This is a completely ignorant statement "stop being so insecure" no one can "stop being insecure" it takes time and practice

Being someone who was once diagnosed with social anxiety and needed to see a therapist, anyone who told me i needed to "just be more confident" or to "just talk more" are complete idiots. Just becauseits easy for you doesnt mean its easy to others

Just because you dont understand it doesnt mean you shouldnt agree with it

Its like telling someone who can't quit smoking because they are addicted to "just stop smoking" or "just stop buying cigarettes"

It is something i dont understand but i know is a real problem and most people just "can't stop smoking"

Or its like telling a fat person to "just go to the gym" besides motivation, having to worry about people judging you because your fat and possibly even making fun of you for being a fat person at the gym...can be really hard to do. I used to go to the gym and wondered why people had such a hard time gaining motivation to go to the gym...now after awhile, i burnt myself out and understand the difficulty again.

I dont eveb care that this topic is about text chat, its one of my biggest pet peevees when someone doesnt understand the other peoples situation. I hate when people think things can just be resolved by telling people to "just not to worry."

Gee thanks for the amazing advice you just solved all my life problems!

If it was only that simple...you dont think people would of figured that?

Kammakazi wrote: »

Let me destroy everybody's counterargument real quick.

1) Spam bots in the chat.
A. Ignore/mute function

2) Chat box obscures the screen
A. Optional toggle for Chat box

3) Just use your damn voice
A. Players should not feel obligated to speak just to get through content. (Also some players' voices are just good god)

4) Not everybody has a keyboard
A. Keyboards these days are very cheap. Wired or unwired. The one I use was $7 used at a store.

You're right and after reading few post about chatbox, I gotta admit that I changed my mine. I voted no earlier today but now I say that could be useful for alot of good reason. Some people get in the game and leave the vocal chat right away so sometime it's pretty hard to get in touch with them, you're doing some dungeon and nobody answer cause they are not on the chat, at least if we have a chatbox we could tell them to get on vocal chat or communicate a little bit more than just with emote. Sure the chatbox will need to be moderate because without moderation, it's going to be a free-for-all of spammy post. Not sure that's what we are looking for.

Having a chatbox could be useful for those who speak another language. Like french people trying to communicate with english might be easier on a chatbox than a vocal chat. I am french from canada and I speak english but when I first start learning english I was really shy to speak english so I was typing instead

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Let me destroy everybody's counterargument real quick.

1) Spam bots in the chat.
A. Ignore/mute function

2) Chat box obscures the screen
A. Optional toggle for Chat box

3) Just use your damn voice
A. Players should not feel obligated to speak just to get through content. (Also some players' voices are just good god)

4) Not everybody has a keyboard
A. Keyboards these days are very cheap. Wired or unwired. The one I use was $7 used at a store.

Regarding #4, an in-game keyboard can be used similar to texting on a phone. Sure, it's not ideal but it would be all-inclusive and entirely optional (and free!) for everyone.

And again if people are annoyed that they cabt use text chat because they need a key board, voice chat will always be there too

Nergie4242 wrote: »

pat_paquet wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Let me destroy everybody's counterargument real quick.

1) Spam bots in the chat.
A. Ignore/mute function

2) Chat box obscures the screen
A. Optional toggle for Chat box

3) Just use your damn voice
A. Players should not feel obligated to speak just to get through content. (Also some players' voices are just good god)

4) Not everybody has a keyboard
A. Keyboards these days are very cheap. Wired or unwired. The one I use was $7 used at a store.

You're right and after reading few post about chatbox, I gotta admit that I changed my mine. I voted no earlier today but now I say that could be useful for alot of good reason. Some people get in the game and leave the vocal chat right away so sometime it's pretty hard to get in touch with them, you're doing some dungeon and nobody answer cause they are not on the chat, at least if we have a chatbox we could tell them to get on vocal chat or communicate a little bit more than just with emote. Sure the chatbox will need to be moderate because without moderation, it's going to be a free-for-all of spammy post. Not sure that's what we are looking for.

Having a chatbox could be useful for those who speak another language. Like french people trying to communicate with english might be easier on a chatbox than a vocal chat. I am french from canada and I speak english but when I first start learning english I was really shy to speak english so I was typing instead

I doubt the devs even thought of the particular problems that we have in the EU and how voice communication is more difficult here.

You know like they didnt think of

The deaf.
Mutes.
People with anxiety disorders
People who are shy.
People who maybe play in a noisy environment and cant talk.
Some women (including my missus) who dont like the response they get when some men discover they are talking to a female.
And all the other groups who are affected by this that I cant think of off the top of my head right now

I still find it staggering they exclude all these people from enjoying their product and for what? Because they decided they didnt like the thought of playing with a keyboard near you? No i'm sorry but I lost respect for zos a long time ago because of this. Not that they care.

Exactly my thought after reading throught this forum. This is why ZOS need to do a chatbox and like Chieve said, if you are annoyed because you dont have a keyboard, hide the chatbox and still use the vocal chat which will still be available. Well I hope so. lol

Or you can just use your phone as a second screen and use the keyboard to enter chat...

I'm not saying that a smart phone be the only way you enter the chat. I'm just saying its a more convenient way than for those whom don't want to have a keyboard rather than just use their smart phone or rather than that in game chat box

PinoZino wrote: »

The idea isn't certainly bad, but crying about doesn't help a lot.

You really want to make clear to the dev team you need TextChat?

Connect a keyboard to your console now.

They probably measure how many people actually use a keyboard. If few people do there's no incentive for the dev team to reward you with TextChat.

Why would devs check who uses a keyboard

I have to connect by keyboard through usb whoch is taken by my controller charger and headphones.

If we could use keyboards id remove the controller charger....

Anyways....keyboard support isnt even implemented on console yet so why would i bother using a keybaord or go through the inconvience of having it plugge din?

I dont browse the web on my ps4, i use my phone.

I could use it for ps4 messaging...but again if im not co stantly using my keyboard, its an inconvenience, and to be honest, i could just use my phone. It makes it noce and easy to be able to keep an eye on my game while i try to send a message on my phone

So yeah if eso was trying to test who actually had keyboards plugged in...they would be dumb because there is no point for us to have a keyboard in right now since the game doesnt support it

Chieve wrote: »

PinoZino wrote: »

The idea isn't certainly bad, but crying about doesn't help a lot.

You really want to make clear to the dev team you need TextChat?

Connect a keyboard to your console now.

They probably measure how many people actually use a keyboard. If few people do there's no incentive for the dev team to reward you with TextChat.

Why would devs check who uses a keyboard

I have to connect by keyboard through usb whoch is taken by my controller charger and headphones.

If we could use keyboards id remove the controller charger....

Anyways....keyboard support isnt even implemented on console yet so why would i bother using a keybaord or go through the inconvience of having it plugge din?

I dont browse the web on my ps4, i use my phone.

I could use it for ps4 messaging...but again if im not co stantly using my keyboard, its an inconvenience, and to be honest, i could just use my phone. It makes it noce and easy to be able to keep an eye on my game while i try to send a message on my phone

So yeah if eso was trying to test who actually had keyboards plugged in...they would be dumb because there is no point for us to have a keyboard in right now since the game doesnt support it

I have connected a keyboard and I do use it while creating mails. As a Guild Master I have to mail a lot.