B3N wrote: »

I'm playing the new campaign - Axe of Belharza - and I´m loving it because of the gated Imperial City. But there is a problem, which is really annoying. When a faction is locking the entrance for another faction, all players from the locked faction that are already in the city, will still be able to play in the city, because when they die, they simply release to the alliance base in the sewers.

The consequence is that all players who are already in the city, don´t care about their campaign status, because they never will be kicked out of the city. Thus the whole locking mechanism is obsolete in my opinion and takes the dynamic from the campaign. If a faction loses access tot he city, it would be better if the players that die in the city are ported to one of the gates in Cyrodiil instead oft the alliance base in the sewers.

I agree. My guild have been discussing this since we started on Axe (Are you NA or EU btw?). The general consensus is if a faction has lost their gating, once they die they should be released back to their gates in Cyrodiil. Otherwise, as you say, they just stay in the city and keep farming making it pointless for other factions to take away their gating.

What? This is absurd! I was thinking of trying that campaign but with that rule its just useless. But wasnt it the reason the decided to not gate IC, their incapability to code just that issue? I dont know perhaps im paranoid.

B3N wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

I agree. My guild have been discussing this since we started on Axe (Are you NA or EU btw?).

I'm playing on the EU server

Same... So we are both on the same campaign.

Let's be honest the entire gated thing is a failure because it wasn't there from the start and they don't plan to have all or even a majority of the campaigns gated.

The PvE players who claimed this update for their own would be too upset if they paid for PvP content which meant they had to PvP. I'm really sad how badly this update has turned out for PvP, due to the fact materials were only available via IC and that it was stuff everyone needed they couldn't deliver the PvP content we were promised. I've been doing my best to stay positive over this game but honestly IC is killing it for me.

I think there are a few threads now, including my own poll calling for ZOS to kill of some campaigns and break them down.

Personally I feel PvP would benefit best from.

Azura's Star - 30 day, everything worth 1 point, gated IC access.
Thornblade II - 30 day, keeps only, gated IC access.
Chillrend - 14 day, everything worth 1 point, unlocked IC access.
Haderus - 7 day, resources only, unlocked IC access.

Blackwater Blade - As is now.

The changes made to the rules for campaigns and the ungated access were things I didn't see many people in the PvP community asking for, in fact the rules changes seemed to come out of no where. Considering that 30day campaigns have always been the big campaigns everyone enjoys I never understood ZOS' thinking in regards to changing Thornblade, wasn't this the biggest campaign on both EU and NA servers, yet it was killed over night with changes no one (that I know of) asked for.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler please start communicating with the community more, or giving posts stating what you're working on or ideas you have to help PvP then let us post and bash it (and each other) to give you feedback you need. Please start working with PvP community and showing us some trust again, we're not all jerks.

I agree, But it's fun to take your stones when you think your safe

They don't want to hurt the feelings of the current slate of PVP and PVE players. They don't want the characters to have to get out of the recliner and they don't want to inconvenience the players.

Personally, I think that characters need to respawn outside Imperial City on all deaths within the borders of Cyrodiil. This should persist for as long as Tel Var stones are a PVP objective. If they ever decide to remove the Tel Var stone penalty upon death, people can respawn at the Alliance Base in the Imperial City sewers.

There is also another problem with this, and i'm guilty of it also. I either leave my gank char inside or when i feel like its gonna get zerged i put my char inside the sewer then gank.