Reward for the worthy.... hmmm not feeling so worthy after IC patch!

Hammy01 · September 2015

Bhakura wrote: »

I dont get it .... you can buy siege and repair stuff with ap? Im constantly running around with 200+ wall and door repairs, 10+ trebs, 10+ rams, 100+ siege repair kits
and my ap only goes up ....
Whats the problem?

Yes we can and I often do use my AP for siege and wall repair kits but I am not vet yet so I don't have hundreds of thousands of AP sitting around to use for this. I have to supplement it with actual gold just so I can have enough AP when I hit X0 or X5 levels to buy new gear with. As far as I am concerned they can keep things the way they are for Vet players but something needs to change for non vets. Maybe they should just lower the cost of all siege and repair kits for non vet players?

The small chance we can get to obtain a blue or purple item was a nice change but at the rate we get Reward for the worthy mail it might take a long time before the RNG gods smile on us!!

Garion · September 2015

There is no problem with AP. If anything, there is not nearly enough to spend it on (convert 1000 AP to 100 tel var stones feature, pls...)

The problem is the fact PvPers can't make gold and therefore are at an inherent disadvantage. I can't gear all of my chars, I can't by potions or buff food to sustain myself because I am making zero gold. I was hoping the new rewards for the worthy would make up for the fact I can't sell PvP equipment any more... should have thought twice, ZOS does nothing but *** over PvPers. As usual, it's those that spend their whole day grinding (in the sewers / city) that will make the money while the rest of us are penalised.

Alphashado · September 2015

You should be able to buy the same Tel Var sets with AP. It's really that simple. They have pigeon holed everyone into IC with no incentive what so ever to stay above ground in Cyrodiil.

Of course, that would make too much sense now wouldn't it.

AudioVortex · September 2015

I've also noticed this problem with the rewards system after recently jumping back into pvp, spending expensive mats to build the right set, only to get nothing back in return for my hours back and forth, defending and attacking. It's a real shame because i wanted vigor/caltrops and I'm immediately put off because of the lack other any other reason to pvp.

Don't get me started on the 150k home campaign change. I think I got about 25k AP in two and bit hours. Which then has to go on wall repairs. But that conversation is for an other thread.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · September 2015

Yea don't repair walls it's a waste of AP and AP is a waste of time

TheShadowScout · September 2015

Garion wrote: »

The problem is the fact PvPers can't make gold and therefore are at an inherent disadvantage...

Yeah, right! Wouldn't it be great if cyrodil contained PvE quests that paid out good gold, or juicy dwelves that could be soloed for fun and profit? Oh... wait...

That stated, it might be a good idea to have one daily quest to pick up a "spupply pack" containing, say, 10 wall repair kits and 10 door repair kits... maybe also 5 healing potions... perhaps even some food and stink buff items... (though I'd rather have a cook in the base camp with a big pot of stew that can be tapped by anyone for a free food buff instead) so all the PvPers have some basic supplies (and with the daily, they could stock up on that too depending on situation).
After all, its not like soldiers usually have to pay for their ammo out of their own pocket now, is it? And that's what player characters are in cyrodil - soldiers for their faction, right? So they should be issued some basic supplies...

Hammy01 · September 2015

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

The problem is the fact PvPers can't make gold and therefore are at an inherent disadvantage...

Yeah, right! Wouldn't it be great if cyrodil contained PvE quests that paid out good gold, or juicy dwelves that could be soloed for fun and profit? Oh... wait...

That stated, it might be a good idea to have one daily quest to pick up a "spupply pack" containing, say, 10 wall repair kits and 10 door repair kits... maybe also 5 healing potions... perhaps even some food and stink buff items... (though I'd rather have a cook in the base camp with a big pot of stew that can be tapped by anyone for a free food buff instead) so all the PvPers have some basic supplies (and with the daily, they could stock up on that too depending on situation).
After all, its not like soldiers usually have to pay for their ammo out of their own pocket now, is it? And that's what player characters are in cyrodil - soldiers for their faction, right? So they should be issued some basic supplies...

Lol, I actually like your pot of stew idea.. brilliant!!!

AudioVortex · September 2015

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

The problem is the fact PvPers can't make gold and therefore are at an inherent disadvantage...

Yeah, right! Wouldn't it be great if cyrodil contained PvE quests that paid out good gold, or juicy dwelves that could be soloed for fun and profit? Oh... wait...

That stated, it might be a good idea to have one daily quest to pick up a "spupply pack" containing, say, 10 wall repair kits and 10 door repair kits... maybe also 5 healing potions... perhaps even some food and stink buff items... (though I'd rather have a cook in the base camp with a big pot of stew that can be tapped by anyone for a free food buff instead) so all the PvPers have some basic supplies (and with the daily, they could stock up on that too depending on situation).
After all, its not like soldiers usually have to pay for their ammo out of their own pocket now, is it? And that's what player characters are in cyrodil - soldiers for their faction, right? So they should be issued some basic supplies...

Some great ideas here!

It's just annoying that I now would have to pay 150k AP in order to change to a dead campaign and farm those quests without being ganked! Do you get AP from completing quests?

Annoyingly my problem is in I'm in a dead campaign and want to get out haha.

Garion · September 2015

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

The problem is the fact PvPers can't make gold and therefore are at an inherent disadvantage...

Yeah, right! Wouldn't it be great if cyrodil contained PvE quests that paid out good gold, or juicy dwelves that could be soloed for fun and profit? Oh... wait...

Dungeons and quests are not PvP. Putting them in a PvP zone does not make them PvP...

Hammy01 · October 2015

Just got my first vet character today... man it is worse here than in the non-vet campaigns. I had some good pvp for over 2 hours (guessing) and managed to get around 30,000 AP but only two Reward for the Worthy mails... and the kicker is that I get less gold in these bags than I did in the non-vet. These bags only had 55g whereas the non-vet had 105g... not that it matters because even 210g is gone with two wall repair kits

. Something just does not seem right and needs to be looked at.

Nhilandra77 · July 2016

I really really dislike the way I never ever receive any reward in pvp that I can use or wear for my character. I'm a medium armor dual wield bow nb. all I get is heavy or light gear with maces or staves. give me stuff I can use or just stop giving me it at all and give me gold or ap

mike_de · July 2016

You, as soldiers of the factions have to use your own money, to repair walls, or buy siege weapons?

This is a joke, right? .... Right?

Maybe it would be a better system, if they would compensate you with an 1.5-2 factor, for every thing used in the war. So that the warlords "borrow" the bought supplies from the player, compensating them later for their efforts.

With this change players would love to use these things. It would even make sense.

ZOS_JohanaB · July 2016

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