Tea bagging for all the wrong reasons

Saint314Louis1985 · September 2015

Im wondering how tbagging has anything to do with ***. It is absolutely obsurd how you can link the two together. Now maybe if you were to visibly pull out your junk and rub it all over the players face, I can see that being over the top, but crouching up and down is no violation and if that were the case, then probably 75% of xbox NA server would be banned. I only tbag people that A ) try to gank me and end up getting rolled or B ) are the "boss" of the mini-zerg they never leave and I finally catch them alone and kill them. Its more of a FU i finally got you than it is forcing my junk upon you. If they were to put an emote where you flip the bird I would much rather prefer it but unfortunately, then people may actually have a reason to be offended.

PVP is competitive much like pro sports. Teabagging is more like the trash talking that goes on in most sports. Some of the greatest legends of all sports were well known for rubbing your defeat in your face. This does not mean that the noob who kills you 10 vs 1 is a legend, far from it, but it is most definitely not an act of virtual *** as some people in this thread seem to be stuck on.

If getting tbagged in PVP causes you to scream *** and get all flustered, do not set foot in cyrodil again. You do not have the emotional stability to play anything competitive. Sorry if I seem blunt but it is true. Tbagging is nothing more than harmless taunting in a video game.

Cadbury · September 2015

Saint314Louis1985 wrote: »

Im wondering how tbagging has anything to do with ***. It is absolutely obsurd how you can link the two together. Now maybe if you were to visibly pull out your junk and rub it all over the players face, I can see that being over the top, but crouching up and down is no violation and if that were the case, then probably 75% of xbox NA server would be banned. I only tbag people that A ) try to gank me and end up getting rolled or B ) are the "boss" of the mini-zerg they never leave and I finally catch them alone and kill them. Its more of a FU i finally got you than it is forcing my junk upon you. If they were to put an emote where you flip the bird I would much rather prefer it but unfortunately, then people may actually have a reason to be offended.

PVP is competitive much like pro sports. Teabagging is more like the trash talking that goes on in most sports. Some of the greatest legends of all sports were well known for rubbing your defeat in your face. This does not mean that the noob who kills you 10 vs 1 is a legend, far from it, but it is most definitely not an act of virtual *** as some people in this thread seem to be stuck on.

If getting tbagged in PVP causes you to scream *** and get all flustered, do not set foot in cyrodil again. You do not have the emotional stability to play anything competitive. Sorry if I seem blunt but it is true. Tbagging is nothing more than harmless taunting in a video game.

Strictly playing Devil's Advocate here, but I don't recall ever seeing professional athletes like Kobe Bryant or Lebron James teabag their opponents after a win.

Saint314Louis1985 · September 2015

Cadbury wrote: »

Saint314Louis1985 wrote: »

Im wondering how tbagging has anything to do with ***. It is absolutely obsurd how you can link the two together. Now maybe if you were to visibly pull out your junk and rub it all over the players face, I can see that being over the top, but crouching up and down is no violation and if that were the case, then probably 75% of xbox NA server would be banned. I only tbag people that A ) try to gank me and end up getting rolled or B ) are the "boss" of the mini-zerg they never leave and I finally catch them alone and kill them. Its more of a FU i finally got you than it is forcing my junk upon you. If they were to put an emote where you flip the bird I would much rather prefer it but unfortunately, then people may actually have a reason to be offended.

PVP is competitive much like pro sports. Teabagging is more like the trash talking that goes on in most sports. Some of the greatest legends of all sports were well known for rubbing your defeat in your face. This does not mean that the noob who kills you 10 vs 1 is a legend, far from it, but it is most definitely not an act of virtual *** as some people in this thread seem to be stuck on.

If getting tbagged in PVP causes you to scream *** and get all flustered, do not set foot in cyrodil again. You do not have the emotional stability to play anything competitive. Sorry if I seem blunt but it is true. Tbagging is nothing more than harmless taunting in a video game.

Strictly playing Devil's Advocate here, but I don't recall ever seeing professional athletes like Kobe Bryant or Lebron James teabag their opponents after a win.

Youre right. Being that truly teabagging someone IRL would be illegal. Crouching up and down while clothed in a video game is not truly teabagging. Maybe we should stop calling it that and call it what it is, crouching.

vamp_emily · September 2015

omg.. this thread will never die.

Q: Which one of you, from EP, burned my siege at Bleakers last night ( I was riding solo ) and then you and your buddy walked over and t-bagged me?

phbell · September 2015

I have read this thread with interest. I find T-bagging to be infantile and offensive. In the martial arts, defeated opponents are respected and a Sensei would never tolerate such behavior. Those that are compelled to further celebrate a victory by debasing their opponent through T-bagging may have way to much self-image wrapped up in their fictional life.

T-bagging speaks volumes about the character of the person doing it.

Saint314Louis1985 · September 2015

phbell wrote: »

I have read this thread with interest. I find T-bagging to be infantile and offensive. In the martial arts, defeated opponents are respected and a Sensei would never tolerate such behavior. Those that are compelled to further celebrate a victory by debasing their opponent through T-bagging may have way to much self-image wrapped up in their fictional life.

T-bagging speaks volumes about the character of the person doing it.

I think quite the opposite. I think those that get offended by tbagging are taking this game way too personal.

And for the record I am not #1 fan of teabagging and feel that some people enjoy it way too much. I could care less about it really. At the the same time I feel strongly that some people have blown it way out of proportion and need to step back and realize that this is a game and you were not violated in any way.

anitajoneb17_ESO · September 2015

Saint314Louis1985 wrote: »

Im wondering how tbagging has anything to do with ***. It is absolutely obsurd how you can link the two together.

You may interprete it differently if you like but words have an origin, a definition and a meaning, and teabagging per definition is related to s e x, r a p e and humiliation. It does not mean crouching, crouching/uncrouching just being the way to "visaully reproduce" teabagging on screen.

If it were just "crouching" then it would be called "crouching" and I wouldn't find it offensive anymore. But I'm pretty sure that in this case players couldn't bother doing it anymore because it would be emptied of what makes sense to them.

Saint314Louis1985 wrote: »

Its more of a FU i finally got you than it is forcing my junk upon you. If they were to put an emote where you flip the bird I would much rather prefer it but unfortunately, then people may actually have a reason to be offended.

See how sensitivities differ from one person to the next : I'd consider "flipping the bird" as far less offensive than teabagging.
The whole purpose of this (and similar) topic is to see how people interpret it and react to it, and I find it interesting. Maybe you should consider listening (reading) and accepting that people react differently from you before jumping to judgemental drastic conclusions such as "you're all emotionally unstable".

Saint314Louis1985 wrote: »

PVP is competitive much like pro sports. Teabagging is more like the trash talking that goes on in most sports. Some of the greatest legends of all sports were well known for rubbing your defeat in your face.

As far as I know every sport and especially pro sport include handshake / reconciliation between winners and losers after each confrontation. So what you're saying is plain wrong. The only example I could think of where taunting / despising is part of the whole "battle show" might be wrestling...

People might agree or not about the extent of "offense" involved with teabagging, but everyone seems to agree that it is really poor sportsmanship.

vamp_emily · September 2015

Guess what today is?

National T-Bag day.. that means everyone put on your armor head to PvP and T-Bag someone. Well actually, you can do it in your speedo's no armor needed.

anitajoneb17_ESO · September 2015

vamp_emily wrote: »

Guess what today is?

National T-Bag day.. that means everyone put on your armor head to PvP and T-Bag someone. Well actually, you can do it in your speedo's no armor needed.

yeah, go ahead, keyboard heroes

NB @vamp_emily : still funny to see how this topic is still attracting you like bee and honey :-)

DaveMoeDee · September 2015

Thanks for the Halo video. Now at least I understand what people are talking about.

Pretty funny in Halo due to collision detection between characters.

I am shaking my head that people can be bothered by this.

vamp_emily · September 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

Guess what today is?

National T-Bag day.. that means everyone put on your armor head to PvP and T-Bag someone. Well actually, you can do it in your speedo's no armor needed.

yeah, go ahead, keyboard heroes

NB @vamp_emily : still funny to see how this topic is still attracting you like bee and honey :-)

Honestly, the only reason I am attracted to it is because the topic keeps getting bumped up.

I understand both sides of the argument. I never wanted to hurt someones feelings when I T-bagged them. Maybe we should change the name from "T-Bag" to something more acceptable.

NativeJoe · September 2015

I had an entire Raid stand around me after finally killing me and produce shovels ,instruments, and /cheer :P I killed 12 of them and was launching a one man war to keep a keep lol (was really bored) deployed 3 cata's , oil, and ran around spamming dodge roll curse, and shield ***. Was an epic battle... but what they did after it floored me lol.

I took it as a form of respect. Tea bagging is the exact opposite, and I would be somewhat offended... but not nearly as offended as whats going on in pvp right now with people exploiting the hell out of rearming trap and camo huntard

Saint314Louis1985 · September 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Saint314Louis1985 wrote: »

Im wondering how tbagging has anything to do with ***. It is absolutely obsurd how you can link the two together.

You may interprete it differently if you like but words have an origin, a definition and a meaning, and teabagging per definition is related to s e x, r a p e and humiliation. It does not mean crouching, crouching/uncrouching just being the way to "visaully reproduce" teabagging on screen.

If it were just "crouching" then it would be called "crouching" and I wouldn't find it offensive anymore. But I'm pretty sure that in this case players couldn't bother doing it anymore because it would be emptied of what makes sense to them.

Saint314Louis1985 wrote: »

Its more of a FU i finally got you than it is forcing my junk upon you. If they were to put an emote where you flip the bird I would much rather prefer it but unfortunately, then people may actually have a reason to be offended.

See how sensitivities differ from one person to the next : I'd consider "flipping the bird" as far less offensive than teabagging.
The whole purpose of this (and similar) topic is to see how people interpret it and react to it, and I find it interesting. Maybe you should consider listening (reading) and accepting that people react differently from you before jumping to judgemental drastic conclusions such as "you're all emotionally unstable".

Saint314Louis1985 wrote: »

PVP is competitive much like pro sports. Teabagging is more like the trash talking that goes on in most sports. Some of the greatest legends of all sports were well known for rubbing your defeat in your face.

As far as I know every sport and especially pro sport include handshake / reconciliation between winners and losers after each confrontation. So what you're saying is plain wrong. The only example I could think of where taunting / despising is part of the whole "battle show" might be wrestling...

People might agree or not about the extent of "offense" involved with teabagging, but everyone seems to agree that it is really poor sportsmanship.

You are wrong. Plain and simple. Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, countless hall of fame football players all taunted the opposition during the game. Ever seen the "finger wave" made popular by NBA star Dikembe Motumbo (sp?) after he would block a shot in the NBA? Hell they even made commercials on TV recently promoting this. In MLB, if you stand and stare at a homerun you will be hit by the pitch the next time youre at the plate. Ever seen the batter charge the mound? And bench clearing brawls? Its part of sports, even in little league. YOU are plain wrong.

The only reason it is tbagging is because that is what people call it. In FPS games crouching up and down is pretty much the only way to acknowledge your victory mid battle against your opponent. People started calling it tbagging because it "somewhat" resembles such an act. Not because everyone is a sexual predator that wants to tbag ppl IRL but are too scared so they do it in a game.

You are taking something so insignificant and making a big deal over nothing but harmless taunting. The poor sportsmanship is on your part for getting so offended and worked up over mild taunting (which in pro football today is referred to as gamesmanship) instead of taking it for what it is and getting your revenge next time on the battlefield.

anitajoneb17_ESO · September 2015

Saint314Louis1985 wrote: »

You are wrong. Plain and simple. Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, countless hall of fame football players all taunted the opposition during the game. Ever seen the "finger wave" made popular by NBA star Dikembe Motumbo (sp?) after he would block a shot in the NBA? Hell they even made commercials on TV recently promoting this. In MLB, if you stand and stare at a homerun you will be hit by the pitch the next time youre at the plate. Ever seen the batter charge the mound? And bench clearing brawls? Its part of sports, even in little league. YOU are plain wrong.

First, stop being so aggressive please (yes, I know, you'll pretend you're not, it's me, blah blah...)

Then you're referring to behaviour DURING "battle", and 'taunting", and as far as I know, teabagging happens only AFTER the fight. So it's not taunting, it's humiliation for the sake of humiliating. Nothing to do with gameplay. I insist : in ALL sports, confrontation ends with handshake, not extra humiliation.

I also see a cultural gap here. We europeans are not familiar at all with either american football nor NBA nor baseball. We're more into soccer and tennis. On a tennis court, even the lightest gesture of animosity not even talking about taunting words or behaviour will lead to penalties or disqualification. In soccer, players tend to throw words and gestures at each other but during the famous Zidane/Materrazzi thing in 2006 almost everyone sided with Zidane because Materrazzi taunted him with "your mother whatever" or "your sister whatever" insults and that was not considered acceptable. Even Usain Bolt has a stained image here because of the way he "brags" after victory, that's widely considered a lack of humility.
Adding to these facts that teabagging in ESO seems FAR MORE widespread on the US megaserver than on the EU side, it looks like we have a big cultural difference here.

Saint314Louis1985 wrote: »

People started calling it tbagging because it "somewhat" resembles such an act.

Then by all means call it differently. But I doubt your theory and I doubt it would work. The simple fact that people insist on calling it differently (clam slam, etc... ) if it's a woman player or a female character doing it proves that the sexual content of the insult is important to them.

Orchish · September 2015

Quite common in PvP, Got murdered by a much better player with his nightblade class last night. He gave me the old tea bag. Sat his sack directly in my face gave it a good few dips before i respawned. Managed to kill him a few hours later with some help and remembered the name. Returned the favour and gave him a good old tea bag. Nothing personal.

anitajoneb17_ESO · September 2015

Orchish wrote: »

Managed to kill him a few hours later with some help and remembered the name. Returned the favour and gave him a good old tea bag. Nothing personal.

You just proved that, OF COURSE, it is personal. VERY personal. Which doesn't matter because the issue here is that it is meant (or not) to be offensive and that it is interpreted as offensive by some people, regardless of it being personal or not.

Smitch_59 · September 2015

Just because poor sportsmanship is sometimes exhibited in sports (such as bench-clearing brawls in baseball) does not make it right. To me, such behavior is indicative of a general coarsening of today's society. Whether it's professional athletes acting like children, parents of little league kids fighting in the stands, or youtube videos of people beating on each other down at the local Walmart, it's all uncool. I'm not equating tea bagging with such behavior, I only mention it because sports was mentioned above.

I'm not particularly offended by tea bagging and it doesn't really upset me; rather, it just strikes me as childish behavior, the antithesis of being a gracious winner. When I see someone doing it, it makes me think they're 12 years old.

Saint314Louis1985 · September 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Saint314Louis1985 wrote: »

You are wrong. Plain and simple. Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, countless hall of fame football players all taunted the opposition during the game. Ever seen the "finger wave" made popular by NBA star Dikembe Motumbo (sp?) after he would block a shot in the NBA? Hell they even made commercials on TV recently promoting this. In MLB, if you stand and stare at a homerun you will be hit by the pitch the next time youre at the plate. Ever seen the batter charge the mound? And bench clearing brawls? Its part of sports, even in little league. YOU are plain wrong.

First, stop being so aggressive please (yes, I know, you'll pretend you're not, it's me, blah blah...)

Then you're referring to behaviour DURING "battle", and 'taunting", and as far as I know, teabagging happens only AFTER the fight. So it's not taunting, it's humiliation for the sake of humiliating. Nothing to do with gameplay. I insist : in ALL sports, confrontation ends with handshake, not extra humiliation.

I also see a cultural gap here. We europeans are not familiar at all with either american football nor NBA nor baseball. We're more into soccer and tennis. On a tennis court, even the lightest gesture of animosity not even talking about taunting words or behaviour will lead to penalties or disqualification. In soccer, players tend to throw words and gestures at each other but during the famous Zidane/Materrazzi thing in 2006 almost everyone sided with Zidane because Materrazzi taunted him with "your mother whatever" or "your sister whatever" insults and that was not considered acceptable. Even Usain Bolt has a stained image here because of the way he "brags" after victory, that's widely considered a lack of humility.
Adding to these facts that teabagging in ESO seems FAR MORE widespread on the US megaserver than on the EU side, it looks like we have a big cultural difference here.

Saint314Louis1985 wrote: »

People started calling it tbagging because it "somewhat" resembles such an act.

Then by all means call it differently. But I doubt your theory and I doubt it would work. The simple fact that people insist on calling it differently (clam slam, etc... ) if it's a woman player or a female character doing it proves that the sexual content of the insult is important to them.

Maybe it is a cultural thing, I dont know. I do know I do not feel aggressive or angered at all. If I come off that way it is not intentional. I tend to speak very bluntly and point out things in the simplest way possible which may come across wrong(my wife tells me all the time). You told me I was plain wrong, and I responded with facts pointing that you were wrong. Agree to disagree I suppose. Back to the topic...

As far as tbagging during the battle goes, in an FPS game (which is the example I used) the fight does not end upon a death, it ends after a timer or a max score is reached. So yes, while the timer is still running you may get tbagged in those games. This is where the "tbagging" started and it merely became a popular thing to do and made its way to ESO. Being that you die once in this game, it may be after the battle.

People coming up with sexual terms for the "crouching" you see is just people having fun with words. I truly doubt there is anyone who gets their rocks off by crouching on a "dead' pixel in a video game. It is not *** your character or anything at all just a mild taunt. If you were able to speak to your enemy via mic during battle I promise you would hear much more insulting things and wish you could go back to just being tbagged. Some people on both sides take it too serious, but they should not.

Maybe the people that get so disturbed by teabagging in game dont understand the meaning behind it. It is not a sexual assault lol. I seldom use it but when I do its because I do not wish to waste time trying to find an emote and just give a couple crouches and move on. I do not see how it is classed as "the ultimate disrespecful insult" anymore than using a shovel or w/e. Both are using game features to gloat in victory.

Heres a link to the definition I believe most people would agree with. It is the top link in google search. Look it up. I dont see anything about r a p e

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagging

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gilbegger · September 2015

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Caligamy_ESO · September 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

NGP wrote: »

what is tea bagging btw?

Teabagging is a practice in PvP videogames that consists in humiliating/taunting your defeated opponent by playing the emote crouch/uncrouch/crouch/uncrouch repeatedly over the "corpse". It's meant to mimic r a p e - by-mouth (forcing your balls into your victim's mouth). Some people think it's "funny". It's widespread among immature teenagers without sexual experience but also among adult gamers who obviously spend more time playing with their computer and with themselves rather than enjoying IRL sexual relationships. Some even go as far as to do it with mobs in solo games where they don't despawn too quickly.
It's actually against the code of conduct and thus reportable as offensive.
In ESO, it looks as it is far more widespread on the US megaservers than on the EU megaservers.

(several edits for typos and grammar)

Wow when did Teabagging get so serious.. pretty sure it originated from the movie Pec-ker. It was something done by male strippers in order to earn a bigger tip from customers in a Baltimore nightclub.

https://youtu.be/BxutQld4VPU
There's a reason its called teabag, and not ...whatever it is you're talking about in your thread.