NO CP - SOFTCAP CAMPAIGN

Araxleon · September 2015

Options.
Is it so hard?
Just add it I promise people would love it and 50% of your community would stop complaining because we would have the OPTION to avoid the PVP we dont like.
Options don't hurt.

What do you guys think?

SleepyTroll · September 2015

It wouldn't hurt to try.

Lord_Hev · September 2015

It would also show truth behind our feedback. If it is indeed true, that 1.5 was the most balanced, people will naturally flock to such a server.

PainfulFAFA · September 2015

Campaigns with different variety/rulesets would be nice

No CP campaign or
No AoE Caps campaign or
V16 only campaign

Idk, anything that could bring life back to pvp

Lord_Hev · September 2015

SleepyTroll wrote: »

It wouldn't hurt to try.

It would hurt ZOS alot. They will see that their "innovation" moving forward is complete trash.

SleepyTroll · September 2015

Lord_Hev wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

It wouldn't hurt to try.

It would hurt ZOS alot. They will see that their "innovation" moving forward is complete trash.

Hey it doesn't hurt to admit defeat and fix mistakes, I'm still waiting for the road ahead though, maybe one day they'll start being transparent.

themdogesbite · September 2015

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

It wouldn't hurt to try.

It would hurt ZOS alot. They will see that their "innovation" moving forward is complete trash.

Hey it doesn't hurt to admit defeat and fix mistakes, I'm still waiting for the road ahead though, maybe one day they'll start being transparent.

Zos never reverted the lightning patch fiasco. They wont admit misstakes let alone revert anything.

Wollust · September 2015

Give it up, ZOS wants us to play the cra* they present us here and they'd never admit that most of the stuff they're doing is ruining the game more and more. They will never cater to those knowing and loving this game. They only do that for the QQers and so on asking for nerfs 24/7 because they can't be asked l2p.

FireCowCommando · September 2015

johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

It wouldn't hurt to try.

It would hurt ZOS alot. They will see that their "innovation" moving forward is complete trash.

Hey it doesn't hurt to admit defeat and fix mistakes, I'm still waiting for the road ahead though, maybe one day they'll start being transparent.

Zos never reverted the lightning patch fiasco. They wont admit misstakes let alone revert anything.

The lighting patch was not good, neither was the accidental deletion of the scourge campaign back when they lasted 90 days before resets, and this was ~60 days into the campaign. Now that sucked!

Yuke · September 2015

nobody would ever die with those campaign rules + the 50% mitigation battle spirit buff

Ghostbane · September 2015

No CP Server = Regen Battle Royale

Araxleon · September 2015

Yuke wrote: »

nobody would ever die with those campaign rules + the 50% mitigation battle spirit buff

They could also reduce battle spirit for these options
like I said options, would be nice

Soris · September 2015

That would requires all the old skills back to balance out stuff imo. Like old radiant aura and old blazing shield magicka cost etc.. Idk about other classes, probably they also need some balancing but yeah I'd absolutely love that if it done perfectly.

Seth_Black · September 2015

would be fun to see all cp grind monkeys staying away from it

since most of their 'skill' is based on big cp difference between them and other players

Quady · September 2015

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

No AoE Caps campaign

I would like more No AoE campaign

Draxys · September 2015

Quady wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

No AoE Caps campaign

I would like more No AoE campaign

you and all the other gankers can have fun trying to find each other stealthed outside keeps on that server, have fun by yourselves

Mauz · September 2015

Araxleon wrote: »

Options.
Is it so hard?
Just add it I promise people would love it and 50% of your community would stop complaining because we would have the OPTION to avoid the PVP we dont like.
Options don't hurt.

What do you guys think?

At least I would love it.

What I would love even more would be a campaign where all stats are scaled like in Blackwater Blade. Blackwater Blade before 2.0 without CP would be the perfect pvp in my eyes. No 1 shots, no aoe spam, no endless resource builds. Just fair pvp. And such a campaign you could balance much more easily.

Quady · September 2015

Draxys wrote: »

you and all the other gankers can have fun trying to find each other stealthed outside keeps on that server, have fun by yourselves

i would have no problem if they remove stealth too

CtrlAltDlt · September 2015

Would be too good to be true

bosmern_ESO · September 2015

There definitely needs to be campaigns with different rules (no ZoS, changing how scoring works wont make people pick a campaign over another) would really help distribute players and keep pvp new and exciting.

Suggestions I've seen people make that I like are:

-Free for all (you and your group spawn in random spots tpgether, can still capture keeps but emperor and scrolls will be gone. There would be fights all over the map, not just keeps which would be fun)
-1.5 campaign (purge bugged, soft caps, ulti gen, possible ground oils, etc)
-reduced group cap (maybe have max group size be 8-12)

annd now this

Yolokin_Swagonborn · September 2015

Soris wrote: »

That would requires all the old skills back to balance out stuff imo. Like old radiant aura and old blazing shield magicka cost etc.. Idk about other classes, probably they also need some balancing but yeah I'd absolutely love that if it done perfectly.

A lot of the skill nerfs would have to be reverted to at least early 1.6

Early 1.6 was pretty good before people started maxing attributes and grinding CP. They made blocking and dodge rolling a lot more expensive so you couldn't face tank in full light armor.

Key nerfs to revert:

Health attribute nerf
Blazing shield cost and health % nerf
Bolt escape nerf (at least the 2nd one)
Talons block nerf
Stacking cost of dodge roll
Blocking/regen nerf.

Then softcaps would be fine.

frozywozy · September 2015

I would say 300 CPs campaign would be ideal.

Nivzruo_ESO · September 2015

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Campaigns with different variety/rulesets would be nice

No CP campaign or
No AoE Caps campaign or
V16 only campaign

Idk, anything that could bring life back to pvp

A no AoE campaign would be epic.. even if there are no DKs.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · September 2015

Nivzruo_ESO wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Campaigns with different variety/rulesets would be nice

No CP campaign or
No AoE Caps campaign or
V16 only campaign

Idk, anything that could bring life back to pvp

A no AoE campaign would be epic.. even if there are no DKs.

A no NB campaign would be amazing. People would actually fight eachother.

IxSTALKERxI · September 2015

I'm all for a non- cp campaign, perhaps it could replace black water blade once the vet ranks are removed.
The less campaigns the better though, so all these other suggestions for campaign ideas are kinda going overboard. We have enough dead PvDoor buff servers as it is.

Lava_Croft · September 2015

Just forget about soft caps, they will not return. Just like 1.5 won't return.

Etaniel · September 2015

You can't ask ZOS for specific campaign rules like that, they would be completely over their heads in terms of code. They already can't add a campaign with a different rule set without breaking something, imagine if they had to code a second set of skills for people in that campaign, the UI work required to do so to tell you which version of the skill you have available, and there is so much more. It's literraly impossible, unless they change the whole game. And they are not going to get rid of the champion system they worked so hard on, and sold as the replacement to veteran ranks

Soris · September 2015

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Just forget about soft caps, they will not return. Just like 1.5 won't return.

As we stand together, there is nothing we can not accomplish.
Random Weirdo

Pirhana7_ESO · September 2015

I really dont understand why anyone would want to play on a campaign where they couldnt keep progressing their character... hitting that 'I'm finished wall" is the biggest reason people will stop playing. Personally I really like the fact that i can PVP all night and gain 2 to 3 CPS and slighty make my character stronger. It gives me something to aim for.

Sure there are PVE grinders that have 1000 CPs, but they are grinding in PVE chances are your not going to fight them in PVP and even when you do its really not that signifigant of a difference. Since the first CPs give the most bonus and the further you go give less returns there is a very minimal strength difference between someone with 200 CPS and someone with 1000CPs. In most cases the difference would never effect the fight.

I think CPs are best thing to happen to this game, especially after they remove vet levels. But everyone fins something to complain about because they lost a fight. Next people will want a campaign where you dont need to level up at all and everyone is the exact same. or a campaign where you can only wear blue gear. Its just getting rediculous

Emma_Overload · September 2015

Araxleon wrote: »

Options.
Is it so hard?
Just add it I promise people would love it and 50% of your community would stop complaining because we would have the OPTION to avoid the PVP we dont like.
Options don't hurt.

What do you guys think?

As long as were asking for "the OPTION to avoid the PVP we dont like", can we also have an IC campaign where PVP is turned OFF so PVEers can grind in peace?

Yolokin_Swagonborn · September 2015

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Araxleon wrote: »

Options.
Is it so hard?
Just add it I promise people would love it and 50% of your community would stop complaining because we would have the OPTION to avoid the PVP we dont like.
Options don't hurt.

What do you guys think?

As long as were asking for "the OPTION to avoid the PVP we dont like", can we also have an IC campaign where PVP is turned OFF so PVEers can grind in peace?

For someone who is a self-proclaimed carebear, you sure spend a lot of time in the Alliance War Forum and other PvP topics just derailing threads and shooting down other peoples ideas concerning PvP. I get that you see this all as a Zero Sum Game, and any win for us is a loss for you. But if that is how you really see it, then it implies that your true purpose here is to be obstructive and contradictory as possible to reduce any possible positive benefit the PvP community might see from these threads. If that is truly your purpose, then that is kind of mean spirited. Just saying. At the understood risk of derailing this thread even further, I just had to point this out.