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So I discovered a Macroer.... on Console
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Guy must be an engineer to have his controller set up with a machine of some sort that presses buttons in a specific pattern LOL (imagine a PS4 controller and a cage-like box around it with a bunch of wires and crap)
Also take a look at the pattern he does, he casts Dark Conversion and turns at a certain degree every time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB155oH6Ey4
Also take a look at the pattern he does, he casts Dark Conversion and turns at a certain degree every time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB155oH6Ey4 2
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Nope. A bot is a toon controlled by automation program, they do the same thing over and over. Normal a bot is used to level or gain loot by killing trash mobs.
A macro user is a person that uses a program to complete multiple actions when only pushing one button. For example they will macro an attack and have an animation skill to together so it never misses, or tie a few skill together to complete a chain of attacks.
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Zavus✭✭✭✭Didn't watch the video, but there are ways you can setup a mouse/keyboard to play on your console. (would be easy to setup macros this way). I had a friend who used to do this to play on xbox 360. Dude hated using a controller, but he really wanted to play with his pals ^_^Zavus - Worst NB NA / First NB RANK 50"Most carried General NA" - Cent Satori
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Funkopotamus✭✭✭✭✭Yes it is indeed a keyboard macro..
These same A-Holes are ruining Neverwinter.
Good thing about Neverwinter is the devs actually drop in and ban these people. Bans are not hard to do either as long as ESO has already set things in place with Microsoft like neverwinter did.... You DEV's have discussed this with them already right?..........right?
I hope ZOS follows suit like that.
ALSO:! If they continue to let these jerkwads do this and I never get Text Chat, but they can use a keyboard to cheat then I might be looking for a different game lol.Edited by Funkopotamus on September 24, 2015 4:38AMAnything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!" Sallington0 -
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✭✭I've honestly never seen anything like this before.
The only "botting" that existed on console was just wrapping a rubber band on your trigger button.
But this... this is on another level.1 -
Funkopotamus✭✭✭✭✭I've honestly never seen anything like this before.
The only "botting" that existed on console was just wrapping a rubber band on your trigger button.
But this... this is on another level.
Well with todays Xbox One you can slam anything in the USB like save files. --Dark Souls anyone?
But most of those macro must be done through a lap top or PC hooked straight into your xbox.. It really isn't that hard.Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!" Sallington0 -
Tectonaut✭✭✭There are macro controllers, all it takes is currency. Not that I advocate their use, but many, many ways exist to hack/mod/cheat on consoles even. I would vastly prefer that everyone sucked it up and played the good ol' fashioned carpal tunnel method like me.2
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Sithisvoid✭✭✭✭✭And that's why sometimes you get hit with 5-6 attacks at once and die before you can blink.0 -
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Macro controllers? wtf! Never heard of them til' now.
Edit: The only kind of modified controller I knew of growing up was those rapid fire ones for FPS games.Edited by Kammakazi on September 24, 2015 6:09AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Funkopotamus wrote: »Yes it is indeed a keyboard macro..
These same A-Holes are ruining Neverwinter.
Good thing about Neverwinter is the devs actually drop in and ban these people. Bans are not hard to do either as long as ESO has already set things in place with Microsoft like neverwinter did.... You DEV's have discussed this with them already right?..........right?
I hope ZOS follows suit like that.
ALSO:! If they continue to let these jerkwads do this and I never get Text Chat, but they can use a keyboard to cheat then I might be looking for a different game lol.
Yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath. We've been waiting for some movement on the macro front since launch, PC side.![:\](https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
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Nope. A bot is a toon controlled by automation program, they do the same thing over and over. Normal a bot is used to level or gain loot by killing trash mobs.
A macro user is a person that uses a program to complete multiple actions when only pushing one button. For example they will macro an attack and have an animation skill to together so it never misses, or tie a few skill together to complete a chain of attacks.
You can write a macro to repeat steps. You can press a button and it can run until terminated by the end user. A bot is essentially the same thing.
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Nope. A bot is a toon controlled by automation program, they do the same thing over and over. Normal a bot is used to level or gain loot by killing trash mobs.
A macro user is a person that uses a program to complete multiple actions when only pushing one button. For example they will macro an attack and have an animation skill to together so it never misses, or tie a few skill together to complete a chain of attacks.
You can write a macro to repeat steps. You can press a button and it can run until terminated by the end user. A bot is essentially the same thing.
Yeah, if a Macro is looped it is basically a very ,very rudimentary bot.
Actual "Bots" are generally much more complex if properly made and require coding.Corrupted_Soul - V16 DK - PS4 NA0 -
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Nope. A bot is a toon controlled by automation program, they do the same thing over and over. Normal a bot is used to level or gain loot by killing trash mobs.
A macro user is a person that uses a program to complete multiple actions when only pushing one button. For example they will macro an attack and have an animation skill to together so it never misses, or tie a few skill together to complete a chain of attacks.
You can write a macro to repeat steps. You can press a button and it can run until terminated by the end user. A bot is essentially the same thing.
Yeah, if a Macro is looped it is basically a very ,very rudimentary bot.
Actual "Bots" are generally much more complex if properly made and require coding.
Are you a programmer? A macro is essentially a VBscript. Hop into excel or another scripting software, automate some clicks or other behavior and then look at the macro (VB) file it wrote in a code editor. Chances are it will be VBscript. I've automated testing scenarios for decades and the scripting we use to mirror how a real user would behave is always code regardless of whether we program it by clicks via x/y axis or whether we write it out by hand. The end result is the same.
It's silly to argue macro vs bot. It's the same thing as it's automation however some automation in-game is acceptable while others, as seen in this thread, are not.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Are you a programmer? A macro is essentially a VBscript. Hop into excel or another scripting software, automate some clicks or other behavior and then look at the macro (VB) file it wrote in a code editor. Chances are it will be VBscript. I've automated testing scenarios for decades and the scripting we use to mirror how a real user would behave is always code regardless of whether we program it by clicks via x/y axis or whether we write it out by hand. The end result is the same.
It's silly to argue macro vs bot. It's the same thing as it's automation however some automation in-game is acceptable while others, as seen in this thread, are not.
A macro has nothing to do with VBScript (although you're right in that you can create them using this). A macro is basically a series of functions that can be executed in just one. I don't know much about consoles, but if there is a controller that allows you to program multiple actions into one single button push, that can be considered a macro button.
Your last paragraph is correct. A macro is more of a shortcut to make things easier for the operator, whereas a bot is fully automatic.
We're digressing a bit here, though. These lazy people taping their buttons down in one grind location need to be punished. While it's not overly effective, it's stupid.0 -
Mighty_oakk✭✭✭✭✭Sithisvoid wrote: »And that's why sometimes you get hit with 5-6 attacks at once and die before you can blink.
That might be a lag switch. I don't know if they work on pc but I've had one ever since I bought a console. Anyone can make one in 10 minutes and they are used in every console game including eso1 -
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✭SeptimusDova wrote: »Nothing is ever done. There exist no consequences in this game for cheating.
Nailed it!! Care to reply @zos oh.....wait.....lololololol lolololol forum bans are more important than in game bans. Can't make money on the forums......... this will always be my view point until they show otherwiseEdited by OGLezard on September 24, 2015 1:17PM0 -
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Or you can just buy one already modded, programmable or set up for a particular game already.
To the PS4 and the game it just looks like a human pushed the buttons.
It is up to the developers of a game to set how fast input is accepted between abilities etc.
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✭I've honestly never seen anything like this before.
The only "botting" that existed on console was just wrapping a rubber band on your trigger button.
But this... this is on another level.
I don't know if it was a macro for sure or not (could have been lag), but a couple of weeks ago I made a rare trip into Cyrodil to get some skyshards and got ganked by a guy who hit me with 6 abilities in a fraction of a second. And that was on PS4.0 -
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✭Are you a programmer? A macro is essentially a VBscript. Hop into excel or another scripting software, automate some clicks or other behavior and then look at the macro (VB) file it wrote in a code editor. Chances are it will be VBscript. I've automated testing scenarios for decades and the scripting we use to mirror how a real user would behave is always code regardless of whether we program it by clicks via x/y axis or whether we write it out by hand. The end result is the same.
It's silly to argue macro vs bot. It's the same thing as it's automation however some automation in-game is acceptable while others, as seen in this thread, are not.
A macro has nothing to do with VBScript (although you're right in that you can create them using this). A macro is basically a series of functions that can be executed in just one. I don't know much about consoles, but if there is a controller that allows you to program multiple actions into one single button push, that can be considered a macro button.
Your last paragraph is correct. A macro is more of a shortcut to make things easier for the operator, whereas a bot is fully automatic.
We're digressing a bit here, though. These lazy people taping their buttons down in one grind location need to be punished. While it's not overly effective, it's stupid.
A macro can be written using VBscript or another scripting language so I wouldn't say it has "nothing to do with VBscript". I've been writing them to automate my functional tests for years. If you take a look at the macro you create it's just script. There's little difference between a bot and a macro. I'd even say they are the same. Both are automating tasks and both can be set to loop infinitely.Edited by TheValkyn on September 24, 2015 5:43PM0 -
Nope. A bot is a toon controlled by automation program, they do the same thing over and over. Normal a bot is used to level or gain loot by killing trash mobs.
A macro user is a person that uses a program to complete multiple actions when only pushing one button. For example they will macro an attack and have an animation skill to together so it never misses, or tie a few skill together to complete a chain of attacks.
I recently finished a quest to get some island back for the King and after I had finished it , there was a Daedroth with a banekin trailing behind it like a vanity pet. They would go across a bridge, down to a campfire and circle it a few times and go back over the bridge. That's all they did repeatedly. They couldn't be interacted with at all, took no damage, no GT or creature names over them, but the Daedroth would push me out of the way if I stood in its path rather than pass right through me. I should have recorded it . Bot of some kind?
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